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The New DS Beta Black Title Bar
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albion-mad-nick
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“As a web designer I don't understand why people are always up in arms over website updates. It happens all the time ,especially huge websites like DS will always make changes and updates to the design


And unexpected bugs and broken links are an occupational hazard to such changes.

I don't always like change either. You get used to a certain way of navigating the site, the way it looks etc, but things change. For what it's worth... I like the update ”

It's nothing to do with change. It's to do with the fact it doesn't work at all for most people. You don't change things if it doesn't work.
planets
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“I got that once. I refreshed my browser. Sorted.

We just have to flush out the gremlins and before we know it, this design will not be new anymore.”

I'm sure all their advertisers are thrilled with THIS version of their ads too
Andrue
02-11-2015
One thing I would suggest to the techies though is to make better use of horizontal space. The navigation menu and footer are using the whole browser width but the forum itself is centred and only using about 40% of the browser width.
lordOfTime
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by albion-mad-nick:
“It's nothing to do with change. It's to do with the fact it doesn't work at all for most people. You don't change things if it doesn't work.”

I can't quite remember when the last change was... but I'd say it was 2 or 3 years, it. Maybe it's a little too soon this time but DS are within their rights to change the design if they so wish. I'm not going get into a huff about it.

I reckon they'd change it back if enough people complained but that didn't work last time.
chinchin
02-11-2015
Yet another change for the sake of it and not as good as the earlier version.
Justabloke
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“As a web designer I don't understand why people are always up in arms over website updates. It happens all the time ,especially huge websites like DS will always make changes and updates to the design


And unexpected bugs and broken links are an occupational hazard to such changes.

I don't always like change either. You get used to a certain way of navigating the site, the way it looks etc, but things change. For what it's worth... I like the update ”

Burn the heretic!!



Its working fine for me too on chrome
Thomas Crewes
02-11-2015
It's a poor website that forces me to personally undo its changes just to browse comfortably, but uBlock saw to that hideous omnipresent nav bar, I advise anyone else with problems to try it out.
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“As a web designer I don't understand why people are always up in arms over website updates. It happens all the time ,especially huge websites like DS will always make changes and updates to the design


And unexpected bugs and broken links are an occupational hazard to such changes.

I don't always like change either. You get used to a certain way of navigating the site, the way it looks etc, but things change. For what it's worth... I like the update ”

As a web designer you should see all the flaws in this horrible design.
koantemplation
02-11-2015
It is a terrible change just to force adverts on to us.
lordOfTime
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Thomas Crewes:
“It's a poor website that forces me to personally undo its changes just to browse comfortably, but uBlock saw to that hideous omnipresent nav bar, I advise anyone else with problems to try it out.
As a web designer you should see all the flaws in this horrible design.”

One criticism i've heard is that it's intrustive. Hardly. The menu is actually smaller than the last one and only drags out for adverts from the TV to the Tech Menu. Plenty of available space on my iPad mini as well.

The menu is lightweight, small and easily accessible. It's a winner in my book. But that's just me.
CSJB
02-11-2015
If it's not broke, don't fix it !!!
Arghh
I hate change
Tassium
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“As a web designer I don't understand why people are always up in arms over website updates. It happens all the time ,especially huge websites like DS will always make changes and updates to the design


And unexpected bugs and broken links are an occupational hazard to such changes.

I don't always like change either. You get used to a certain way of navigating the site, the way it looks etc, but things change. For what it's worth... I like the update ”

Is it possible the failing is in you rather than the users?
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It's the classic mistake from "monopolies" because the initial impact appears to be minimal. The damage is there though, users resent the business/product for messing them around for no apparent benefit.

Changing the look&feel too often is always a mistake.Once in 5 years would be appropriate.
codeblue
02-11-2015
Absolute garbage

It refuses to load in my browser of choice.

Does anyone actually bother testing anything these days?
R82n8
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by DS Forum Support:
“Hello all

Thanks for the reports. The shrunken imagery (smilies, forum status text, thread status etc) are unintended. The mobile skin having two navigation bars is also unintended.

We've passed on all the above as well as pages intermittently not loading to our tech team.

Thanks”

Is the big black beta banner intended?
Us forum members know how to access the gossip and showbiz clickbait site, most of us choose not to.
Are the DS Forums no longer financially viable?
lordOfTime
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“It is a terrible change just to force adverts on to us.”

Hardly the worst crime in the world considering we're getting a free service.
Fieldmouse83
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Andrue:
“Try clearing your cache on the iPad.”

Sorry if this makes me seem a bit 'thick' but i dont know how to do that and not really sure what it means
Thomas Crewes
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“One criticism i've heard is that it's intrustive. Hardly. The menu is actually smaller than the last one and only drags out for adverts from the TV to the Tech Menu. Plenty of available space on my iPad mini as well.

The menu is lightweight, small and easily accessible. It's a winner in my book. But that's just me.”

Found the undercover DS staff member, everyone.

How do you reckon a nav bar nobody wants, staying put even as you to your best to scroll away from it, is not intrusive?
Hollie_Louise
02-11-2015
I like the new forum look on mobile Still refuse to use the main site though
albertd
02-11-2015
Forums now working again on Firefox for me, thank goodness.
Justabloke
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by albion-mad-nick:
“It's nothing to do with change. It's to do with the fact it doesn't work at all for most people. You don't change things if it doesn't work.”

most people? do you mean the half a dozen or so in this thread?
Or the thousands that must be using the site without any problems?

I wish they'd bring back the rolleyes smiley because sometimes its what you need!
blueisthecolour
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“It is a terrible change just to force adverts on to us.”

AdBlock is your friend - it makes using the internet in general just so much easier.
blueisthecolour
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Justabloke:
“most people? do you mean the half a dozen or so in this thread?
Or the thousands that must be using the site without any problems?

I wish they'd bring back the rolleyes smiley because sometimes its what you need!”

I think it's safe to assume that it was a general error. I wasn't able to access the site for about 15 mins.
koantemplation
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“AdBlock is your friend - it makes using the internet in general just so much easier.”

I'm using uBlock but had to turn it off to see the forum.

Turned it back on and site is visible again.
elliecat
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“AdBlock is your friend - it makes using the internet in general just so much easier.”

Yep I have that installed now and it is so nice not to be bombarded with adverts that take up the whole page
lordOfTime
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“Is it possible the failing is in you rather than the users?
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It's the classic mistake from "monopolies" because the initial impact appears to be minimal. The damage is there though, users resent the business/product for messing them around for no apparent benefit.

Changing the look&feel too often is always a mistake.Once in 5 years would be appropriate.”

Maybe it is a failing. But as a DS user I am just not that bothered. I'm already on record as saying that the changes meet my personal approval but that if neccessary (enough people complain) that they might just change it back.

I don't mind the placement of the adds, even if they sometimes stick rather than hoverng back under the menu, It's not a big deal to me. I accept it will be for others.
planets
02-11-2015
Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“One criticism i've heard is that it's intrustive. Hardly. The menu is actually smaller than the last one and only drags out for adverts from the TV to the Tech Menu. Plenty of available space on my iPad mini as well.

The menu is lightweight, small and easily accessible. It's a winner in my book. But that's just me.”

I've has emails from users thinking they've been banned because they can't access any part of the site.
How exactly is that "winning"?
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