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Old 02-11-2015, 15:16
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now im confused as kathy was married to him all those years plus phil gave sharon that address where she went last time but she changed her mind about knocking.
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Old 02-11-2015, 15:18
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Kathy didn't know but I'm unsure about Phil. I doubt he'd have sent her after Gavin knowing what a psycho he is but this is EastEnders.
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Old 02-11-2015, 15:30
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Kathy didn't know as she said "you don't have any children" to Gavin on Friday. Phil, I'm not sure.
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Old 02-11-2015, 15:33
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Given how this storyline has progressed so far, it will probably be revealed that Phil has known about it for 25 years.
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Old 02-11-2015, 16:26
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Given how this storyline has progressed so far, it will probably be revealed that Phil has known about it for 25 years.
loool haha yh i watched again and it turns out kathy didnt evan know he supposedly lived in walford years ago but this dont make sense as kathy was friends with angie and dan so surely they would have told her but then again den and angie were not born and bred in walford like kathy was so chances are that maybe they moved to walford around 1980 when sharon was about ten and at that point became friends with kathy i doubt sharon would have known sharon from birth.
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Old 02-11-2015, 16:57
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I thought Den went to school with Pete and Pauline. So it's likely he and agie did know Kathy from the point she married Pete.

However, i got the impression that Den kept everything about sharon's adoption secret even from Angie so i doubt Kathy would know anything about it.
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Old 02-11-2015, 16:58
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I think Eric Mitchell knew given that photograph we saw a while back. However it is unlikely he told Phil. Saying that who knows.
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Old 02-11-2015, 17:04
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I think Eric Mitchell knew given that photograph we saw a while back. However it is unlikely he told Phil. Saying that who knows.
huh who is eric mitchel?
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Old 02-11-2015, 17:12
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huh who is eric mitchel?
Phil,Grant and Sams late father who died before the Mitchells appeared onscreen.
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Old 02-11-2015, 18:32
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Phil,Grant and Sams late father who died before the Mitchells appeared onscreen.
oh ok not quite sure how the poster is relating him to gavin sullivan though/
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Old 02-11-2015, 18:36
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oh ok not quite sure how the poster is relating him to gavin sullivan though/
He was in the photograph along with den, Gavin and Claudettes hubby
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Old 02-11-2015, 19:15
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Kathy didn't know as she said "you don't have any children" to Gavin on Friday. Phil, I'm not sure.
What happened to Gavin's 3 kids that he had when she married him?

The whole thing is stupid. It's like there are no other humans on earth and only one Gavin in London. I can't remember where Kathy met Gavin but it's all just too contrived. There is Walford, "up west", Maaannnnchester, Milton Keynes (where anyone with no money can afford to go and live and a taxi driver can afford a lovely house) and Nooocarstle (apparently grey and dank). Even so Kathy happened to meet and marry Sharon's dad?? And she's never met him before or even knew he was Den's friend. It gets more stupid by the day.
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Old 02-11-2015, 19:33
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He was in the photograph along with den, Gavin and Claudettes hubby
which photograph/ ok im more lost by the minute lool. are you saying phils dad new grnt and now gavin??
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Old 02-11-2015, 19:35
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What happened to Gavin's 3 kids that he had when she married him?

The whole thing is stupid. It's like there are no other humans on earth and only one Gavin in London. I can't remember where Kathy met Gavin but it's all just too contrived. There is Walford, "up west", Maaannnnchester, Milton Keynes (where anyone with no money can afford to go and live and a taxi driver can afford a lovely house) and Nooocarstle (apparently grey and dank). Even so Kathy happened to meet and marry Sharon's dad?? And she's never met him before or even knew he was Den's friend. It gets more stupid by the day.
gavin has 3 kids? lool ok im ost now as gavin was never before seen until this year so when has it ever been mentioned he had 3 kids? as far as we are all aware he was simply kathys new husband raising ben with her before he supposedly died with kathy.
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Old 02-11-2015, 20:12
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I thought Den went to school with Pete and Pauline. So it's likely he and agie did know Kathy from the point she married Pete.

However, i got the impression that Den kept everything about sharon's adoption secret even from Angie so i doubt Kathy would know anything about it.
I thought so too. Where did 1980 come from?
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Old 02-11-2015, 22:27
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gavin has 3 kids? lool ok im ost now as gavin was never before seen until this year so when has it ever been mentioned he had 3 kids? as far as we are all aware he was simply kathys new husband raising ben with her before he supposedly died with kathy.
When Gavin and Kathy wanted to give Ben the Sullivan name Phil said Gavin already had three kids.

Watch from about 11 minutes in here -

http://youtu.be/tpN5pGvU7hY
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Old 02-11-2015, 22:50
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What happened to Gavin's 3 kids that he had when she married him?

The whole thing is stupid. It's like there are no other humans on earth and only one Gavin in London. I can't remember where Kathy met Gavin but it's all just too contrived. There is Walford, "up west", Maaannnnchester, Milton Keynes (where anyone with no money can afford to go and live and a taxi driver can afford a lovely house) and Nooocarstle (apparently grey and dank). Even so Kathy happened to meet and marry Sharon's dad?? And she's never met him before or even knew he was Den's friend. It gets more stupid by the day.
I don't actually find Kathy having met Gavin unbelievable. Given that we now know he was a friend of Ted's from when they were young, Ted probably introduced them so it wasn't just a co-incidence.

I'd forgotten they said Gavin had 3 kids back then. They've just retconned that then.
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Old 02-11-2015, 23:14
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I'm an episode behind so didn't know about the Ted connection. Although that's just an add on I'm sure as was having Eric Mitchell know Den and Gavin.
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Old 02-11-2015, 23:29
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Den clearly didn't know the Mitchells when he returned, DTC and his lapdog Alex Lamb are quite literally pulling this crap out of their ass.
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Old 03-11-2015, 00:49
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When Gavin and Kathy wanted to give Ben the Sullivan name Phil said Gavin already had three kids.

Watch from about 11 minutes in here -

http://youtu.be/tpN5pGvU7hY
omg that episode does bring back memories lol thanks for sharing i think wrotors forget some viewers remember everything lool.
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Old 03-11-2015, 00:50
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Den clearly didn't know the Mitchells when he returned, DTC and his lapdog Alex Lamb are quite literally pulling this crap out of their ass.
It's awful. Any shit goes.

Jonny Allen may as well come back.
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Old 03-11-2015, 00:57
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omg that episode does bring back memories lol thanks for sharing i think wrotors forget some viewers remember everything lool.
Forget or don't care ? they seemed to forget Denise and Kim owned the Minute Mart when they sacked Kim, the name was a franchise but they owned the shop so something like Gavins kids from years ago will mean nothing to them.
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Old 03-11-2015, 01:13
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Forget or don't care ? they seemed to forget Denise and Kim owned the Minute Mart when they sacked Kim, the name was a franchise but they owned the shop so something like Gavins kids from years ago will mean nothing to them.
loool hahah so true eastenders needs to be very carefull.
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:34
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What happened to Gavin's 3 kids that he had when she married him?

The whole thing is stupid. It's like there are no other humans on earth and only one Gavin in London. I can't remember where Kathy met Gavin but it's all just too contrived. There is Walford, "up west", Maaannnnchester, Milton Keynes (where anyone with no money can afford to go and live and a taxi driver can afford a lovely house) and Nooocarstle (apparently grey and dank). Even so Kathy happened to meet and marry Sharon's dad?? And she's never met him before or even knew he was Den's friend. It gets more stupid by the day.
They also go to Brighton now and again, and wherever it was in Kent that Babe had the caravan. And Eyebeefa and Portugal.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:24
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They also go to Brighton now and again, and wherever it was in Kent that Babe had the caravan. And Eyebeefa and Portugal.
Of course - and also Sarf Africa . I know soaps are like that - no one in CS works anywhere but the street which is also not realistic. Before knowing Gavin knew Ted it just seemed so unrealistic that Kathy would meet Sharon's dad with so few places to choose from. Now I know that history has been rewritten and viewers are meant I have short memories or be stupid.
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