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Old 29-04-2016, 08:37
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I agree as well. Time travel is like double cream - really enjoyable when added to something substantial but on it's own it would just make you sick
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Old 29-04-2016, 08:53
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I'm assuming it will be based around a new Starfleet crew, on a ship or space station. But we've had five series of that and I wouldn't mind something a bit different.

Maybe a series based around Starfleet Intelligence.
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Old 29-04-2016, 11:28
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I'm assuming it will be based around a new Starfleet crew, on a ship or space station. But we've had five series of that and I wouldn't mind something a bit different.

Maybe a series based around Starfleet Intelligence.
My guesses:

- There won't be just one primary setting for the show. It will center around at least 3 or 4 different groups who have some interaction but not until later on. If anyone saw 'The Expanse' you'll know what I mean.

- One of them will be a traditional ship crew, another will be a section 31 style group, at least one will be non human (maybe Vulcan).

- The series will be heavily serialized, no stand alone episodes. No 'monster of the week' like plotting. You will have bursts of action but the story will center around the characters and conflict.
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Old 29-04-2016, 13:30
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I wonder if it will be a bit like the Spielberg TV show Taken, where you follow the families involved over the course of a few generations. Although any Vulcans on the show could be there over the course of a few seasons (because of their long life spans), most human crew members would only be there for 1-2 seasons.
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Old 29-04-2016, 13:50
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I wonder if it will be a bit like the Spielberg TV show Taken, where you follow the families involved over the course of a few generations. Although any Vulcans on the show could be there over the course of a few seasons (because of their long life spans), most human crew members would only be there for 1-2 seasons.
Humans live longer in Trek. McCoy was alive in TNG, Archer was alive in JJ's reboot etc. Granted Humans don't live as long as Vulcans, but we're not as feeble as we are in todays age.
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Old 29-04-2016, 14:57
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Given the way things are at the moment in the real world, and that Star Trek always reflects in some way the real world, a series involving Starfleet Intelligence and espionage and "terrorists" may not be a bad idea. As long as it doesn't become a sort Homeland or 24 in space. I would not want espionage and counter terrorism to be the only focus of the new show, but they could be an element that runs through it.

The notion of espionage and shadowy "black ops" units operating on behalf of the Federation does go against Roddenberry's idealistic view of the future though. I guess humanity then may be better than it is now, but there's still a need for covert operations against less enlightened species.
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Old 29-04-2016, 15:02
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The notion of espionage and shadowy "black ops" units operating on behalf of the Federation does go against Roddenberry's idealistic view of the future though. I guess humanity then may be better than it is now, but there's still a need for covert operations against less enlightened species.
Whilst such a show would go against that view, a lot of shows (ongoing ones) need to adapt and move with the times. That's why (I think) the new Trek films worked. They've evolved, and regardless of hardcore fan backlash, the more casual fan that isn't stuck in the past probably doesn't mind them.

Had CBS, Paramount or whoever launched the new films in the setting of Roddenberry's vision, they'd have seriously flopped in todays society. They just wouldn't have done the job they'd have needed to do to draw in both new and old fans.

This is my fear of the new show being set in the Roddenberry Universe. At the same time, even shows set in this vision have adapted to change.
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Old 29-04-2016, 16:49
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Given the way things are at the moment in the real world, and that Star Trek always reflects in some way the real world, a series involving Starfleet Intelligence and espionage and "terrorists" may not be a bad idea. As long as it doesn't become a sort Homeland or 24 in space. I would not want espionage and counter terrorism to be the only focus of the new show, but they could be an element that runs through it.

The notion of espionage and shadowy "black ops" units operating on behalf of the Federation does go against Roddenberry's idealistic view of the future though
. I guess humanity then may be better than it is now, but there's still a need for covert operations against less enlightened species.
I think that (star)ship has already sailed. DS9 pretty much hammered a stake through the Roddenberry idealism of how humanity would behave in the future.
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Old 29-04-2016, 18:52
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I think that (star)ship has already sailed. DS9 pretty much hammered a stake through the Roddenberry idealism of how humanity would behave in the future.
that's a great point.

in my humble opinion. DS9 was probably best when it did such things. i.e the episode sisko used underhanded methods to bring the romulan into the war. my fav ever programme is 24 and I love homeland aswell. i'd be for a starfleet intelligence type programme
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Old 29-04-2016, 21:58
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I like Homeland. A lot. Still do.

And I started off liking 24 too. It was fresh and innovative in the first couple of series. After a while I realised that I didn't actually buy into the justification for much of what Jack Bauer did.

Heroes are justified in anything they do because... well, they're the heroes. Aren't they?

Homeland seems to be a rather more grounded than 24.

I liked DS9's examination of the moral dilemmas posed by war - e.g. Sisko lying to the Romulans to bring them into the war on the Federation's side. At the same time I couldn't help but feel though that the truth would come out and cause more problems later. For a fairly paranoid species that already had "trust issues", it would hardly make them warm to the Federation. At the same time, it's much easier to trust your neighbour during good times when there's less competition for resources.
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Old 04-05-2016, 21:00
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Confirmed that new show will air weekly on-demand only.
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Old 04-05-2016, 22:15
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how do we get it here in the UK?

I want another englsih captain and an orchestral, melodic opening theme.
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Old 04-05-2016, 22:54
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how do we get it here in the UK?

I want another englsih captain and an orchestral, melodic opening theme.
It will be sold to the highest bidder.
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Old 05-05-2016, 06:35
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It will be sold to the highest bidder.
yeah but that being:

a regular channel or a subscription channel (i.e Netflix)
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Old 05-05-2016, 09:49
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This is just my gut feeling, but I think in the UK the show will probably go to Sky to be shown on Sky 1 or Sky Atlantic. I doubt any terrestrial channel will be able to outbid Sky's deep pockets. I think it unlikely that they'd sell to either Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. Although it is a separate market, it would be odd for them to sell a tent-pole product to (locally) bigger rivals.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:42
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This is just my gut feeling, but I think in the UK the show will probably go to Sky to be shown on Sky 1 or Sky Atlantic. I doubt any terrestrial channel will be able to outbid Sky's deep pockets. I think it unlikely that they'd sell to either Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. Although it is a separate market, it would be odd for them to sell a tent-pole product to (locally) bigger rivals.
Yes I agree if they sold it to Netflix or Amazon there would be a massive backlash as most people have one or the other and those who didn't have a subscription to the one that got it and didn't want to subscribe to the other because of cost would be angry. So on that I would think that Sky would get it even if you had people who don't have Sky complaining about that.
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Old 05-05-2016, 13:33
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I don't think any prospective buyer would worry at all about a possible backlash from people who aren't their subscribers. It was the same kind of thing with sport years ago and it didn't stop Sky from showing various sports across multiple channels so that you needed a more expensive subscription to cover all the possible channels that the sport you're following could be shown on. And nowadays it's worse, as you need additional subscriptions to other providers like BT or Eurosport to cover it all.

CBS All Access themselves don't care as it's a foreign market (as long as they have a buyer in that market).

In the US their (far bigger) competitors are Netflix and Amazon, so I don't think it's likely they'd sell a major new product like the Star Trek series (a first for them) to either rival, even in foreign markets outside the US.

The last Star Trek series (Enterprise) went to Sky in the UK for its first run there.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:14
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on a random point. I notice this is starting in January. not the traditional September opening time for a programme.

both DS9 and VOY (1993 & 95) started in January but both synced into the normal September schedule by having shortened first seasons and a relatively brief summer.

does anyone think this show might be the same.? or will they just keep it with a January opening every season?
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Old 11-05-2016, 11:21
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This is just my gut feeling, but I think in the UK the show will probably go to Sky to be shown on Sky 1 or Sky Atlantic. I doubt any terrestrial channel will be able to outbid Sky's deep pockets.
Sky will get it, and I am sure it will go on Sky1, not Sky Atlantic, because Sky will see it as appealing to the same audience that watches their American superhero shows on Sky1.
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:40
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Sky will get it, and I am sure it will go on Sky1, not Sky Atlantic, because Sky will see it as appealing to the same audience that watches their American superhero shows on Sky1.
You may well end up being right, but it's by no means a certainty at this point.

Unless perhaps you're on Sky's buying team?
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Old 11-05-2016, 17:05
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If Sky buy it then it will 100% be on Sky Atlantic. Please feel free to quote this if i'm wrong
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Old 19-05-2016, 01:53
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First Teaser

It mentions (along with New Heroes, Worlds and Villains) New Crews suggesting we may be following more than one starship.
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Old 19-05-2016, 06:50
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First Teaser

It mentions (along with New Heroes, Worlds and Villains) New Crews suggesting we may be following more than one starship.
That would be a welcome change to the typical one ship/station, one crew theme that we've had up until now. I do wonder on the budget for this show though, cause surely the more characters they have (more crews) the higher the cost is going to be?

I figure it's either going to be a temporal show that'll start out in the TMP era, with an alternating crew (thus your crews), or it'll literally be set on several ships within that era. Both themes work for me, though if the show is literally going to be set in that era, I'm expecting to see a lot of Miranda, Oberth and Excelsior Class starships.

What's wrong with that? Well, they can't exactly change the designs and make them look too futuristic. That's one concern going forward, had the show been set in an alternate universe, you could literally redesign the ships, but if they suddenly throw in a bunch of designs that look like they belong in the 25th century, it's just going to seem off, whilst at the same time, seeing an outdated Miranda or Excelsior Class (ships we now define as old and dated) might put some viewers off. People like new and shiny.

I also wonder what they're going to do with the Klingons, are they going to be fierce warriors, or federation puppets? In theory, they'd have signed the first Khitomer Accords shortly before the show launches. Taking into consideration the setting of this new show too, can we get away with introducing a new villain that hasn't been mentioned or even referenced again throughout TNG/DS9/VOY?

The benefits here, we should get to see more of the Gorn, Tholian, Suliban, Xindi and maybe the odd Cardassian encounter (we don't know when we actually met them). I'm hoping we'll get to meet the Tzenkethi too.

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Old 19-05-2016, 08:41
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First Teaser

It mentions (along with New Heroes, Worlds and Villains) New Crews suggesting we may be following more than one starship.
Thanks for the link Corwin.

Doesn't give anything important away (nor would I want it to). The graphic design of the logo and font style are a bit too embellished and dirtied down for my tastes. Good to see something though. A milestone towards the airdate.
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Old 19-05-2016, 08:47
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Sky will get it, and I am sure it will go on Sky1, not Sky Atlantic, because Sky will see it as appealing to the same audience that watches their American superhero shows on Sky1.
If Sky buy it then it will 100% be on Sky Atlantic. Please feel free to quote this if i'm wrong
Maybe I should start a "book"?

I could always lay off any bets with Ladbrokes or Bet Fred
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