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New Star Trek Series Coming in January 2017
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James_Picard
24-07-2016
very happy with the title. discovery is a very fitting word which captures the essence of star trek.
not sure about the ship design. I will have to see more angles of it before I know whether I like it or not. I agree it does look a bit Klingon-ish.
Flash525
24-07-2016
The hell? New show, new era, lets through in a fugly ass design. C'mon. You can tell Fuller is stuck in the past; how on earth can they be presenting a new show with the intent to draw in an audience with a ship like that?

Not impressed, not impressed at all. I don't mind the era, or the setting, but that ship design is enough to make me not tune in. Seriously, the hell were they thinking?
CD93
24-07-2016
...and Star Trek Beyond is going to be the worst film ever and will be critically panned and nobody will go and see it. So I was told repeatedly several months ago.
PerfectMark
24-07-2016
I can live with the design, considering it's registry no, it is a ship that is older than the TOS Enterprise. So we might see some upgrades to it over the series. But the CGI in that trailer looked awful, even the 90s CGI ships looked better than that. I just hope it is something they quickly mocked up and they haven't just subcontracted it to the cheapest graphics company they could find.
Old Man 43
24-07-2016
My concern is that it is another prequel series.

Prequel's almost never work very well.

For me the series should be set after the TNG/DS9/VOY era.
blueisthecolour
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by PerfectMark:
“I can live with the design, considering it's registry no, it is a ship that is older than the TOS Enterprise. So we might see some upgrades to it over the series. But the CGI in that trailer looked awful, even the 90s CGI ships looked better than that. I just hope it is something they quickly mocked up and they haven't just subcontracted it to the cheapest graphics company they could find.”

Yeah, I thought the CGI looked awful as well. I'm seeing a lot of nerd rage about the design- too Klingon apparently.

Personally I don't really care what the ship looks like as long as the characters and story are good.
Markjuk
25-07-2016
For me it will always be TOS and TNG (and associated movies).

Do not care for the "hipster" reboot of Star Trek and "hipster" inspired new TV series.

What I would love to see is a new TV series with a new USS Enterprise under the command of Captain Riker, with appearances by Admirals Picard and Janeway.
GDK
25-07-2016
Good title. On first impression I don't like the ship design, but I can live with that. Story and character are the most important things.
Markjuk
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by GDK:
“Good title. On first impression I don't like the ship design, but I can live with that. Story and character are the most important things.”

The logo for the new series is appalling.
GDK
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Markjuk:
“The logo for the new series is appalling.”

Must be important to you, but I don't see that as a good reason for dismissing the new series already.

I've loved Star Trek since the original series first aired on UK TV. I've looked forward to every new iteration with excitement and an open mind. And enjoyed most too - even the new universe movies (just as a bit of fun, they're entertaining fast paced action movies wearing Star Trek's clothes, but they're not proper Star Trek).

I'm looking forward to its return to television and long-form story telling. I will reserve judgement until I see it.

I wonder what you mean by "hipster"? It sounds like an old fashioned word for something from the 1960s to me? In my mind it goes alongside words like "hippie" and "beatnik".
CD93
25-07-2016
On the teaser..

Quote:
“During the press conference, Fuller responded to a question from Access Hollywood’s Scott Mantz regarding how much influence an early conceptual design for Star Trek: The Motion Picture of the Enterprise had influenced the U.S.S. Discovery by stating “it was to a point where we legally can’t comment on it until we figure out some things.”

When Trekmovie.com asked Kadin if the teaser for Star Trek: Discovery featured the final design of the ship, music, and logo, she laughed and said “NO! I was surprised Bryan didn’t say that, actually. I mean, we had three weeks to throw that together. We wanted to show fans…we’re super-excited by the score that this amazing composer, Phil Eisner, threw together as an audition and he did an incredible job. The concepts of the ship are totally what we’re going for and they’ll be honed up until, I think, the day we deliver.””

GDK
25-07-2016
The use of "legally" in the quote would give them a plausible reason to change Discovery's design, if needed, but the other part of the quote sounds like it's relatively minor adjustments only.

Only if they can't reach an agreement with the original designer (Ralph McQuarrie - perhaps better know for his concept work on Star Wars) would they change it. Or, if the fan reaction is sooo bad, they could say they couldn't reach an agreement to use that design.

It looks better in McQuarrie's concept art than in the view from Planet of the Titans.
RebelScum
25-07-2016
I have no real objection to anything so far, my only comment would be that the name Discovery evokes themes of exploration and wonder - which is fine, yet the score sounds like something more fitting to a military / battle-ready backdrop - which is also fine, but my initial reaction was that on the face of it, the title and the score don't quite match.
excelents
25-07-2016
STD for the win lol !
Fizzbin
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by GDK:
“The use of "legally" in the quote would give them a plausible reason to change Discovery's design, if needed, but the other part of the quote sounds like it's relatively minor adjustments only.

Only if they can't reach an agreement with the original designer (Ralph McQuarrie - perhaps better know for his concept work on Star Wars) would they change it. Or, if the fan reaction is sooo bad, they could say they couldn't reach an agreement to use that design.

It looks better in McQuarrie's concept art than in the view from Planet of the Titans.”

Ralph McQuarrie died a few years ago, so I suppose it would have to be with whoever controls his estate. Incidentally, some of Ralph McQuarrie's conceptual art has been reused and adapted for The Force Awakens and The Clone Wars/Rebels TV shows, so reuse is entirely possible.
CD93
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by excelents:
“STD for the win lol ! ”

Internally, CBS are sticking with DSC
Jaycee Dove
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Old Man 43:
“My concern is that it is another prequel series.

Prequel's almost never work very well.

For me the series should be set after the TNG/DS9/VOY era.”

They have not confirmed the date setting - though - have they? They refer to teasing the audience.

The assumption of a show set before TNG/DS9/Voyager seems to be from the design of the ship - which looks old.

But there are certainly ways the show could still be set later and just be using an old rediscovered ship. Or a long range space exploration ship sent out from well before the TNG era that saw the crew suspended in time and has found its way back to the Federation to confront an entirely different world from their pioneering days.

That way they could satisfy those who wanted a show about the early days of Star Trek and those who wanted to move forward.

Not saying that is the case. Just that it is easy to assume the era from the design. Which might be exactly why they released this footage.
GDK
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Fizzbin:
“Ralph McQuarrie died a few years ago, so I suppose it would have to be with whoever controls his estate. Incidentally, some of Ralph McQuarrie's conceptual art has been reused and adapted for The Force Awakens and The Clone Wars/Rebels TV shows, so reuse is entirely possible.”

Ah! I didn't know (or had forgotten) he'd died. Yes, obviously any negotiations would be with whoever controls his estate. I suppose it's just a matter of money, then.

Lower slung nacelles would help - and anything to soften the ugly delta shape of (what I suppose is) the engineering hull. The rear view in McQuarrie's concept art doesn't look bad at all. That view reminds me a lot of some Chris Foss designs.
GDK
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by excelents:
“STD for the win lol ! ”

They are called STIs these days!
Fozziewig
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by excelents:
“STD for the win lol ! ”

You have to wonder how that wasn't picked up during CBS top brass meetings before the show was greenlit.

The show better be good, cos if it isn't, it's going to be the butt of a hell of a lot jokes.
Thrombin
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by RebelScum:
“I have no real objection to anything so far, my only comment would be that the name Discovery evokes themes of exploration and wonder - which is fine, yet the score sounds like something more fitting to a military / battle-ready backdrop - which is also fine, but my initial reaction was that on the face of it, the title and the score don't quite match.”

Interesting you should say that, actually, as I got the same vibe from the look and feel. It looked more like an armour-plated warship than an exploration vessel.
Thrombin
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“They have not confirmed the date setting - though - have they? They refer to teasing the audience.

The assumption of a show set before TNG/DS9/Voyager seems to be from the design of the ship - which looks old. ”

Doesn't the number give it away, though? You would think NCC-1031 would come before Kirk's Enterprise which was NCC-1701.
paulschapman
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“Yeah, I thought the CGI looked awful as well. I'm seeing a lot of nerd rage about the design- too Klingon apparently.

Personally I don't really care what the ship looks like as long as the characters and story are good.”

Replace the Primary Saucer with a dome and you have something which looks like this

So I thought it look far to Klingon I would prefer something like this

You can see where they are going with this however if you look at the design of the Enterprise NX01 and the TOS Enterprise. However I think it needs to be more curved, rather than the sharp lines of the Discovery that we have seen.

Mind you I was wondering who is going to get the license contract for models; I have a TOS Enterprise from Revell and a Refit Enterprise from Round 2/Polar Lights waiting to be built.
Nikelodeon81
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Thrombin:
“Interesting you should say that, actually, as I got the same vibe from the look and feel. It looked more like an armour-plated warship than an exploration vessel.”

They are "Discovering" new ways to kill aliens.
deadmancarl
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by paulschapman:
“Replace the Primary Saucer with a dome and you have something which looks like this
”

Seeing the reveal my first thoughts were also Klingon in design which goes against anything we have seen so far from the federation.
Nearly all other starship designs have been rouder.
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