It makes me wonder if the whole show will be as half assed as the trailer!

Anyone else watch The Captains Log doc just on CBS Action? Interviews with Shatner/Stewart/Brooks/Mulgrew and Bacula - each given equal time, very good, just in time for the 50th birthday. Brought back a lot of great memories - Hope this new series next year is a worthy successor !

Saw them (in HD) on Syfy ... erm... last year, I think. *

They're also showing the 40th anniversary special Sunday 8pm

DOCUMENTARY: Star Trek: Beyond the Final Frontier
On: CBS Action (192)
Date: Sunday 31st July 2016 (starting in 1 day)
Time: 18:00 to 20:00 (2 hours long)

Documentary about the 40-year history of Star Trek and an auction of Star Trek props released by Paramount Pictures for an auction by Christie's in New York City.
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=1495

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

(* I just checked the listings and it may not be the show I'm thinking of!)

Myself I would have preferred a ship like this one.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/US...ntine_rear.jpg

Utterly love Mulgrew
I know rumours of her and Ryan really not getting on didn't stop.
This new series really needs some strong female Characters,
Bacula had the talent to really make archer work but the stories/scripts and General direction they took was just so wrong.

I remember making maps for Star trek Elite force and loved every second of it.
they need a series that Grabs people from the start and keeps them. Enterprise started off so well and it just became a shambles because they panicked

I like that. It looks like a post-Enterprise E design.

You should check out the extras on the Blu Rays or DVDs of Enterprise. There are some really frank discussions and opinions on there about the production from those involved in the show. I don't think it was because anyone panicked, as such, unless it was the suits at the studios who were funding it.

It is the official rendering of the USS Aventine from the Destiny books

Why can't the USS Discovery be a ship like this which goes to another Galaxy to explore..

A ship that few like, a name that the press will crucify the show on if it does badly, STD, no casting yet, no production crew yet, no plots yet. And it airs in January? Dr Who is being recorded now for January.

I'm getting very concerned about this programme.

Enterprise's first two years killed it.

The character writing wasn't the best, as evidenced by the fact that Archer was a complete bore - despite being played by Bakula, a more than capable actor. Mayweather, Hoshi, both weak too. Reed was very one-dimensional. But for Trip, T'Pol and Phlox it would have been disastrous.

Beyond that, it took them far too long to find a direction. The temporal Cold War arc was ridiculous. It was obvious that it was being made up as they went along, and the less said about its resolution, the better. Given the time period in which it was set, they had an abundance of lore material to explore, which they eventually started doing in the final year, but far, FAR too late.

Then there's the final episode.....

Voyager - strong premise, engaging pilot, and then....it fell off a cliff. The Maquis/Federation internal conflict was wrapped up in a single episode ffs. As per above, the cast was not great. Mulgrew is experienced but I don't think they wrote her particularly well. Beyond the EMH, Paris, and later 7 of 9, the rest were all very bland indeed, and Neelix just plain irritating. The introduction of the Borg was a double-edged sword. It brought in 7 of 9, but then, the Borg themselves were handled so poorly. By the time the finale aired I never wanted to see the Borg ever again. And the finale itself was so underwhelming. "Yay, after 7 years we've finally made it home"...fade to black.

Voyager and Enterprise, coupled with poor TNG movies, Insurrection and the awful Nemesis, signified that Trek was well due a rest. New people involved, hopefully new ideas fused with familiar themes and principles and a new series could be great again.

I agree with much of what you say.

You are definitely correct about Voyager.

There should have been more conflict and better characterisation.

For me what they should have done is have the Captain die in the 1st episode along with the 1st officer.

From there I would have had a female Lieutenant Commander take over as Captain (not Janeway). This could have created a difficult position with the Commander of the Maquis who as a former Starfleet Commander would have had seniority if he had still been a Starfleet Officer.

As for the Captain some one like Jadzia Dax would have been a good choice.

Sorry if this has already been answered (it's a long thread). I have a very slow internet connection and I wouldn't want to buy this on disc, but would like to watch the series - what are my options?

Nice idea. The whole 'the Maquis' falling into line instantly thing really narked me at the time - it was completely at odds with the premise that had been laid down - and as TV was generally moving to a more darker palette at the time, and with internal conflict in vogue, it would have been a smart move for Trek to follow suit - instead, it came across as being stale and well past its best.


Netflix - it'll air the day after the US gets it.

They have made fairly clear in the US that the deal with Netflix was unturndownable and they have essentially gone into profit on the show without filming a scene as yet.

So it basically let them plan for the long term and they were already even hinting at the possibility of future Marvel like spin off series or parallel stories.

They also noted that they will be selling rights after the Netflix period of exclusivity (however long that is). So the show might well still get a satellite TV premiere on Sky in due course.

Sky might even do what they are doing with House of Cards - a Netflix show they have now bought to sell as 'box sets' via Sky. The first three series will be available to buy and watch via Sky TV and series 4 as soon as the DVD is released.

So Sky might still get to offer Star Trek: Discovery soon enough anyway.

As for Kate Mulgrew - watch her on Orange is the New Black on Netflix and see how she can act and it was her character that was bland on Voyager.

Thanks, but I was really meaning that my internet speed is too slow to stream TV, so Netflix is not really an option.

Netflix were talking about doing offline viewing, where you can download shows and watch them later, so that might be an option.

Otherwise what is the mobile coverage like where you are? Three do unlimited data contracts so you could get a mobile you can connect to your TV and then stream Netflix on that.

All she ever wanted was to eat the chicken that is smarter than other chickens and absorb its power...

From the photo of the Discovery's captain's chair released today it looks almost like midway between Kirk's and Picard's.

Not sure if that is a clue to the setting of the show.

You know, I think that on balance Voyager was a positive addition to the Trek universe. A lot of bad stuff but also some good characters and great episodes. Timeless stands up as better than 95% of TNG episodes. Janeway is a decent captain.

Timeless was that good that they thought they'd rehash it for the series finale.

There were a handful of great episodes. There were some absolute stinkers too (Threshold, Tuvix etc), but most were just middle of the road meh.

I disagree with every single point.

Really!? And yet (as you said over in the Movies subforum) you hate Into Darkness.

Timeless is one of Voyager's better episodes, but no way is it better than 95% of TNG. Their are a few good episodes of Voyager. As with the movies, you have to filter out the bad parts to enjoy the good stuff.

They probably already have the casting and crew locked in just nothing has been announced, why all the secrecy I have no idea. Lots of shows film episodes which are transmitted only a month or two after. Generally US shows will continue filming once a show starts airing.

Threshold is probably the worst episode of any Trek ever. Well, apart from Spock's Brain, obviously.

I'm with you. Voyager had a good concept but apart from a handful of good episodes it was a wasted opportunity.

Nice idea for generating some internal conflict, and certainly killing off (what the audience would expect to be) major characters is in keeping with the trend in recent TV shows like The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.