The timeline diverges when the Kelvin, the ship George Kirk was serving on encounters the black hole. (Just prior to the birth of James Kirk)

Fuller confirmed it is the prime timeline and NOT about Axanar as he was asked that.

Also that they were redefining the look and feel of the show so it is not 1960s TV Star Trek but 2016 TV Star Trek - to create a TV universe 'feel' that can be expanded upon in future in the way that the 1960s Star Trek was.

He also said the ship has changed design quite a bit since the teaser - though still with that inspiration.

And that series 1 would establish these things and the new characters before in series 2 they might then go on to involve previously established characters.

My faith and interest is waning with each announcement! Another prequel. Here we go again.

I wonder which. Pike? Sarek? 100 years after Enterprise and 50 years before TOS is a strange place for us to have a vested interest in, character wise.

No other problem with the setting, myself. After Enterprise, this time period is open for business...

Thought it was 10 years before TOS....?

Yes, it is. We were already discussing it so I don't know how I turned it in to 50

No-one's mentioned this yet so....

"There’s an incident and an event in Star Trek history that’s been talked about but never been explored."

Anyone got an ideas?

I don't

If he's not referring to the earlier Klingon conflicts, I'm not sure at all. There is the Tarsus massacre - but that's another nine years back. There's the Treaty of Armens that was signed in the right year - but the Federation-Sheliak conflict doesn't sound that noteworthy.

I suppose it might end up being good despite all the signs.

Original quote:


In subsequent quotes, Fuller has confirmed that the event/incident in question, is referenced, but not seen in TOS.

The Kobayashi Maru, Romulan war and Section 31 have all been ruled out.

Something 'Klingon' is most likely, but I'm not sure. The 'four year war' would have been a good fit, but afaik that only really exists in EU stuff and was never referenced in screen.

Apparently, the event in question, tonally matches the Kobayashi Maru scenario, ie. It's a no-win situation.

Nope. No idea....

Something to do with the Sheliak perhaps?

The bit in history where they dispose of the humanity that we know today, and replace them with people who love and respect everyone and have no interest in money.

I hate the idea of it being yet another prequel. I was hoping for it to be set after the Voyager timeline.

I think it was inevitable that they wanted to attract a new Star Trek audience not just the fans of all the others. So that pretty much meant it had to be one that could name check characters like Kirk and Spock that everyone knows and an era that is roughly in line with the movies - as that audience is bound to be the biggest draw of new viewers to this TV series.

They could not set AT the same time in a different time line and do things that contradict (or depend on) the movies.

So setting it a decade before the films and not directly linked to the characters in those films gives them freedom from any viewer confusion but sufficient familiarity with the general tone of Star Trek in that period of time.

Set it 100 + years after the movies and you will create confusion and potentially limit the flow of new viewers from the movies to this series to add to the Star Trek fans - who they know would watch it whenever it was set.

Based on the signals coming out about setting up a franchise and likening it to the Marvel pattern (that has also been modelled by DC with their series) my guess is that if this show is a success it will not be long (probably only a year or so) before a second Star Trek show appears and that may well be something like a revival of Next Generation - possibly even with some of the original cast - set 20 years or so after that group of shows ended.

They have the advantage there of most of that cast still being around and acting and having aged roughly the same in real time as the post Voyager series would be set.

It could involve Talos IV and why it was quarrantined after the Enterprise's first visit there under Captain Pike (1st Pilot: The Cage). The Talosians could reach out and affect the minds of people many light years away from Talos IV (as shown in 2 part The Menagerie). They could have been considered a threat to the existence of the Federation itself. Other ships (i.e. Discovery) might have been involved in enforcing the subsequent quarantine or dealing with some kind of aftermath. We might find out why anyone visiting Talos IV would be subject to the death penalty because of Starfleet General Order 7. Apparently the only death penalty still on the books by the time Spock commandeered the Enterprise to take the badly injured Pike back there.

The psychology of prequels just does not work very well.
Setting something in a time after the previous TV-show/film creates a sense of the unknown.

The unknown is a huge part of the attraction of Star Trek and the absence of this is why the new films have a sort of exuberant deadness about them.

Didn't 'Enterprise' feel that way as well, pointless?

When it comes to a prequel series, whilst events do matter, it's the strength of the characterisation and the depth of the relationships that make or break the series. A very relevant example of that would be the Hannibal TV show.

Not to mention Star Wars Rogue One... which also happens to be a prequel to the original which is also set after the latest prequel

Star Wars? No, never heard of that one.

My interest in this fell through the floor with the recent reveal about it being pre-TOS. Prequels are lazy (imo), they depend on pre-established settings, they are constrained by the audiences knowledge of the future and, frankly, they rarely excel. I think the audience are normally more excited for new stories that push the timeline forward than back and recent history seems to agree with this. Smallville, Gotham, Enterprise and even Caprica are all decent shows but knowledge of the future seriously impacts on the storytelling of each of these shows.

Fuller is a good writer and I'm sure he'll make an interesting series but frankly I'd much rather see a post-Voyager series where anything can happen than another prequel.

Still remember the Hype around Enterprise.
totally agree by the way, port voyager would be brilliant. thing is if this flops it wont be the time period set gets the blame. It will be some other lazy excuse again
There's been no justification for the amount of time Star trek has been off TV

That's true. Could be interesting

Perhaps we could get some interesting conflicts within Klingon society between the brow ridged and the non-ridged. Though it would assume a lot of knowledge for casual viewers.

As I have absolutely no pre-conceptions about what it may be and what I want it to be, I'm sure I will love it.

Has anyone mentioned that it was confirmed that the show would focus on 7 characters and that the female lieutenant is just the main one.