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New Star Trek Series Coming in January 2017
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blueisthecolour
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by GDK:
“The ship design certainly seems to be unpopular, but the setting? Some here don't like it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the setting is unpopular. Casting and showrunner as far as I can see is just Hollywood normal.

I'm no Pollyanna but I think you're being too negative.”

I have precisely zero percent interest in the ship design. I think the setting is interesting but would have made more sense to do it between TOS and TNG. I'm sure they're doing the usual thing of keeping casting secret so they can drip feed it to the press to maintain interest in the show.

Like I said above though, I just hope it's given time to evolve and build it's characters.
JKA167
30-10-2016
Like a lot of people I was liking the idea of some new Star Trek episodes to watch. Hopes were raised when it was suggested that the series would be set in a time frame some 10 years before the original series.
Having read the posts about the design of the ship I have to agree that the one in the trailer would be wrong. The reason for this comes from the original series episode The Menagerie when it is stated that the Enterprise had visited Talos IV 13 years before Kirk takes command. That being the case would it not make sense that Discovery would be the same class of starship as Enterprise as both would be near contemporaries of one another? If I remember correctly the Discovery design had been suggested as a possible ship for a follow up to the original series with Spock in command and it would therefore be wrong to use it for a prequel.
Baz_James
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by JKA167:
“Hopes were raised when it was suggested that the series would be set in a time frame some 10 years before the original series.”

Hopes of what? My heart sank so far on this announcement I've yet to find it! It will either simply trample all over the timeline because it's too difficult to keep tabs of all the threads or be so utterly careful as to be a borefest. The ship design 'controversy' suggests that it will be the former but either way I've really lost all interest in the whole project. I can't help wondering whether the delay in casting news is more to do with the number of actors who've turned it down!
malcy86
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by JKA167:
“Like a lot of people I was liking the idea of some new Star Trek episodes to watch. Hopes were raised when it was suggested that the series would be set in a time frame some 10 years before the original series.
Having read the posts about the design of the ship I have to agree that the one in the trailer would be wrong. The reason for this comes from the original series episode The Menagerie when it is stated that the Enterprise had visited Talos IV 13 years before Kirk takes command. That being the case would it not make sense that Discovery would be the same class of starship as Enterprise as both would be near contemporaries of one another? If I remember correctly the Discovery design had been suggested as a possible ship for a follow up to the original series with Spock in command and it would therefore be wrong to use it for a prequel.”

As with any era, there were several different ship classes. Since the McQuarrie design created for Planet Of The Titans was never actually used then it being the basis for the USS Discovery doesn't really matter. I think for me i'm losing interest due to the lack of info we have so far. I see a lot of people complaining about this and that but guarantee most of them will be very excited when it comes out. It's Star Trek, back on TV, we should be thankful and just give it a chance!
malcy86
30-10-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Hopes of what? My heart sank so far on this announcement I've yet to find it! It will either simply trample all over the timeline because it's too difficult to keep tabs of all the threads or be so utterly careful as to be a borefest. The ship design 'controversy' suggests that it will be the former but either way I've really lost all interest in the whole project. I can't help wondering whether the delay in casting news is more to do with the number of actors who've turned it down!”

I doubt many actors 'turn down' Trek. Like a lot of cult shows, it's a guaranteed way for them to make money long after the show is finished due to conventions etc.
oathy
04-11-2016
Is it true about the Captain??


http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-tr...ctor-and-more/
JDF
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Is it true about the Captain??


http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-tr...ctor-and-more/”

WTF that can not be right.
Corwin
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Is it true about the Captain??


http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-tr...ctor-and-more/”

Presumably the Captain of a Klingon ship rather than a Federation ship.
Baz_James
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“Presumably the Captain of a Klingon ship rather than a Federation ship.”

Well that would hardly be worth talking about. We've seen hundreds of them. As it's written it definitely looks like Klingon Federation captain.
oathy
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Well that would hardly be worth talking about. We've seen hundreds of them. As it's written it definitely looks like Klingon Federation captain.”

would explain the ship also
it really does look like a Federation/Klingon hybrid
JDF
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Well that would hardly be worth talking about. We've seen hundreds of them. As it's written it definitely looks like Klingon Federation captain.”

But Worf was the 1st Klingon on a Federation
Corwin
04-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Well that would hardly be worth talking about. We've seen hundreds of them. As it's written it definitely looks like Klingon Federation captain.”

The rumour is that we see both sides in a Klingon / Federation conflict.

Quote:
“There had been rumours at various points that Star Trek: Discovery would revolve around battles with the Klingon race between the original series and The Next Generation, and this seems to support that, but a rumour that appears to be gaining traction with this news is that the series will be a sort of Flags Of Our Fathers/Letters From Iwo Jima take on those interactions, where we might see both sides of the clashes from Federation and Klingon perspectives as the series develops.

Read more: http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/star-...#ixzz4P57qXerG”

RebelScum
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by JDF:
“But Worf was the 1st Klingon on a Federation”

Worf was the first Klingon ranked Starfleet officer. Other Klingons may have been present in other capacities & circumstances before him.
ThatGuy11200
05-11-2016
I was excited by the idea of a new Star Trek series, with all the possiblilties. But being based on a Starship (we've had four of those before, we don't need another one), involving Klingons (who almost certainly won't look as they should this stage in the Star Trek timeline), the ugly ship and the setting itself. There's no reason for it to be set just before the Original Series; it'll either restrict what they can do, or they'll ignore everything that's already been established.
Tassium
05-11-2016
It does seem that STD will be a political correctness bonanza like no other.

It's going to be the show that hates men... in space!
RebelScum
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by ThatGuy11200:
“...involving Klingons (who almost certainly won't look as they should this stage in the Star Trek timeline....”

They could have either version, or both; it wouldn't contradict anything.
Fizzbin
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“The rumour is that we see both sides in a Klingon / Federation conflict.”

Ahh, now I see the Balance of Terror influence. We saw both sides' POV in that.
Baz_James
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by RebelScum:
“They could have either version, or both; it wouldn't contradict anything.”

Fair enough but I still can't fathom the decision to make it a prequel to TOS especially after all the problems that Enterprise had with anachronisms. The obligatory pc features alone will make the Federation appear to be far in advance of the one Kirk knew. The new films were more or less forced to create an entirely new timeline to get away with it but it's a trick that they can't pull off twice. It really doesn't make any sense.
Baz_James
05-11-2016
So, it was supposed to start January. Then it got bumped to May. Now with a week or so before shooting's supposed to start, they still haven't cast the lead or indeed confirmed any cast member at all! Anybody want to bet that it's pushed back even further or even abandoned altogether?
RebelScum
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Fair enough but I still can't fathom the decision to make it a prequel to TOS especially after all the problems that Enterprise had with anachronisms. The obligatory pc features alone will make the Federation appear to be far in advance of the one Kirk knew. The new films were more or less forced to create an entirely new timeline to get away with it but it's a trick that they can't pull off twice. It really doesn't make any sense.”

It's not our property, they can do what they like. If it's good, great; if not, too bad.

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“So, it was supposed to start January. Then it got bumped to May. Now with a week or so before shooting's supposed to start, they still haven't cast the lead or indeed confirmed any cast member at all! Anybody want to bet that it's pushed back even further or even abandoned altogether?”

As above, it's their show. Let go of any sense of entitlement, it only leads to frustrion and this type of worse case sencario mindset.
ThatGuy11200
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by RebelScum:
“It's not our property, they can do what they like. If it's good, great; if not, too bad.


As above, it's their show. Let go of any sense of entitlement, it only leads to frustrion and this type of worse case sencario mindset.”

Who ever said we're 'entitled' to anything? We just don't want it to be s***.
Ulsterguy
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“So, it was supposed to start January. Then it got bumped to May. Now with a week or so before shooting's supposed to start, they still haven't cast the lead or indeed confirmed any cast member at all! Anybody want to bet that it's pushed back even further or even abandoned altogether?”

I've been saying that for a while now.
Ulsterguy
05-11-2016
It looks like it's going to be one big PC 'right on' type of show. Well, at least Enterprise won't be criticised as the series that ended Star Trek. Discovery is going to be its headstone.
RebelScum
05-11-2016
Originally Posted by ThatGuy11200:
“Who ever said we're 'entitled' to anything? We just don't want it to be s***.”

"Want" is good as long as it's restricted to hope, desire. Wanting something too much leads to expectation and entitlement, which manifests itself in the form of frustration. I hope I like it, I hope I don't think it's shit.
Ulsterguy
05-11-2016
The lack of 'hard' news about Discovery is worrying. According to Wikipedia filming was supposed to start in early November, which means there should be some castings by now. Some set teasers surely would be released, but there's nothing. As has been said before, I'm wondering if Discovery will ever be made.
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