I heard about this, thought it would be rubbish before knowing anything about it after they said there would be a load of political correct stuff going on.

Sure enough, it sounds rubbish, a Klingon captain???

The original article just gave a list of rumoured characters that will be in the show which included two Admirals and a Klingon Captain.

There was nothing to indicate that the Klingon was captain of a Federation ship or do you also think the ship will have two Admirals as part of it's crew?

Just like Spock was the first Vulcan. Semantics and all that.

SIGH. I'm already done with this show. I don't know why it's bugging me so much. All the secrecy is weird and everything I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) just seems so incredibly ropey.

Initially I was mystified at why they were coming down so heavy on the fan made ST stuff - especially with how well made some of these are! However, now I have come to realise that it is because they are going to be perceived as better quality!

I am totally amazed that as each announcement is made, I find my self thinking - why would they do that? It's not what the majority of fans want? - seems like a bunch of amateurs with minimal budget and zero originality. Hopefully I will be proven wrong - but I doubt it!

If I was another network, I would be trying to do a deal with Marvel to get some sort of Guardians of the Galaxy spin off on air! Could be great if done correctly!

What a weird comment. They forfeited the right to do absolutely anything they liked the second they stuck the Star Trek name on it. If they'd decided to make a new space based adventure show then nobody would have blinked. But they chose to revive the Star Trek franchise, raising the stakes by stirring up fans best hopes and placing on themselves the responsibility to ensure that the finished product could be seen to fit the title. It's not in the least unreasonable for people now to be anxious that they will fail to deliver.

Nope. Fans are people, and people are different. Some are clearly more easily stirred than others, allowing themselves to get carried away with their own expectations (which evidently often leads to anxiety and frustration). Some of us can remain objective. Star Trek has seen far too many ups and downs through the years to expect a standard of quality automatically associated with the title.

sounds a right bloody shambles.
My guess is TV Executives still have the stains of Enterprise and scared stiff of another flop so instead of just letting the producers/writers do what they like, they are interfering and applying the pressure.

Seeing as its only online wouldn't be a bit surprised as you both said they axe the entire thing and go right back to the start with a new idea.

I think the show is pre-sold world wide, so it has to happen.

i am a positive person by nature but I can't help but feel the pessimism here. almost every tangible detail of the show that I hear I just think to myself "really"??? I know kurtzmann has some new ideas for this show but I sincerely hope he respects the canon and doesn't start breaking it. Klingon captain?


random point- that 'british doctor' comment intrigued me.... because a few years ago when I watched the (brilliant) battlestar galactica remake I remember watching Gaius Baltar and thinking to myself that he'd make a good doctor type on star trek. i'd love it if the actor who played baltar was cast on this show.

The Discovery IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A KLINGON CAPTAIN!!! I'm seeing this everywhere. A Klingon captain was among the characters who needed actors to play them along with 2 Admirals not specifically the Discovery's captain. It will be because a Klingon captain will obviously play a large part at some point.

Way too much negativity here. I'll reserve judgement till I've actually seen it.

Well, he does seem to have room in his schedule at the moment.

If you actually see it!

In many ways, I wish we had no news of this kind at all until series like this are about to air.

A whole media "industry" has built up around entertainment "news" to hype upcoming projects. It's apparent from some of the reaction here that it causes nothing but anxiety to certain types of fan who start stressing pointlessly over their "entitlement" and this or that detail.

Or stressing over click bait. From what I can see it did not say the captain will be a Klingon, though you could be forgiven for thinking so. I am sanguine about the rest.

I want to see this show.

I want to see this show succeed.

That is all.

I trust the people involved to bring out something we recognize as Star Trek, just keeping my fingers crossed that it's decent. Making good tv isn't a science, it's more of an art form and good luck. You need casting that works, stories that grab your imagination and writing that ties it all together.

Lets not forget that of the existing series:

TOS - Loved by people that watched it at the time but has a very 'mixed' response from current generations.

TNG - Of it's seven seasons, the first two are considered 'unwatchable' by some and the last isn't great (apart from the ending).

DS9 - Dodgy first season - but maybe the most successful with 'fans'.

Voyager - Disliked by many fans, enjoyed by more casual watchers, commercially successful.

Enterprise - Considered a failure by pretty much everyone. Most fans liked the last two seasons but not enough to make it viable.

Enterprise is underrated. Yes, even those first two seasons. The third was OK for character development (if not the pantomime main antagonists). The fourth season was great fan service and a taste of greatness that could have been, apart from that execrable final episode.

That episode didn't happen... to me the last Enterprise ep was Terra Prime.

And I'm an Enterprise fan and not afraid to admit it. In fact I enjoyed it more than some of its predecessors.

Very good post this and I concur totally. Most people who aren't huge Star Trek buffs have been unimpressed by most of the TV series to date. Many were in fact pseudo-stage plays in that most of the action in Voyager and DS9 for example took place in three or four locations on the ships, often with no external action.

People ponying up dosh to Netflix need to think about this.

I kinda agree with you. Enrterprise was a ratings flop on UPN, but many of the episodes were enjoyable. And it had Jolene Blalock after all.

^Interesting point. Most fans deride it, and then there are others that call it a flop due to its reputation, but I wonder - how much did it being on the UPN play in its demise?

True, the same result could have occured if it'd been on CBS (as an example). And it did come at a point of over saturation, but after taking those into account, I wonder, could it have had a full/traditional Trek 7 year run?

OK, tech and viewing habits are changing, but I wonder if this issue could be relevent to the new show?

Great post. I think you kinda summed up how i feel on each one.

Probably because he looked and sounded like Dr. Bashir.

He could play a younger Kor

I suspect it would have done better if it had aired on a bigger network, and they'd not tried to use it to launch a 4th network, which eventually collapsed.

It's possible they're making the same mistake in the US, trying to use it to drive up subscriptions to CBS All Access. CBS All Access is a late player into the market for streaming TV services and way behind Netflix, Amazon and others. In the rest of the world it'll be fine on Netflix, the best known streaming TV service and part of its drive to have quality content so its brand is seen as "the best".

Unfortunately, success in foreign parts may not be enough to secure the show's future in the event CBS All Access fails. Who knows whether Netflix (or anyone else) would want to pick up the show or whether CBS would consider selling its title?

As Sony knew when they bought film studios back catalogue to win the Blu Ray vs HDDVD format war, content is king. I can't see CBS All Access having enough good content to compete against the existing players in the long run.

Would agree with this. With next gen, ds9, voyager, possibly even enterprise there wasnt 24 hour internet comment on them all stating its all rubbish before it started. Just wait and see what its like, if people like it then watch, if they dont then it wont last long anyway.