According to the papers today only 5.6m watched x factor on Sat night, the lowest ever recorded on a Sat night, does anyone find that surprising?
Ratings
No.
As with all these shows, they spiral out of control once they start chasing ratings. The show could've been saved if they had just relaxed and gone back to basics in 2013/14, but they constantly pushed for contrived nonsense and drove more and more viewers away.
Simple things like saving Carolynne over Rylan, putting actual talent through, not dangling a carrot in front of Melanie McCabe's face and axing her for the fourth time at the last hurdle could've seen the show stablise again and stay strong after the ridiculous ratings high of series six and seven, but Simon Cowell got greedy and thought he could continue to repeat it. Series six and seven are probably the two biggest manipulated series, so that's what Simon thought we wanted to see every year. He was wrong, and he still hasn't got it.
Cut the cruelty, cut the manipulation, cut the audition times back to three minutes each and focus on getting the talent to the live shows and The X Factor format is still a great show... but it will never happen, and it's too late now, anyway. Cowell couldn't let go of being in control, so next year will probably be the last since the contract is ending... and he's only got himself to blame.
As with all these shows, they spiral out of control once they start chasing ratings. The show could've been saved if they had just relaxed and gone back to basics in 2013/14, but they constantly pushed for contrived nonsense and drove more and more viewers away.
Simple things like saving Carolynne over Rylan, putting actual talent through, not dangling a carrot in front of Melanie McCabe's face and axing her for the fourth time at the last hurdle could've seen the show stablise again and stay strong after the ridiculous ratings high of series six and seven, but Simon Cowell got greedy and thought he could continue to repeat it. Series six and seven are probably the two biggest manipulated series, so that's what Simon thought we wanted to see every year. He was wrong, and he still hasn't got it.
Cut the cruelty, cut the manipulation, cut the audition times back to three minutes each and focus on getting the talent to the live shows and The X Factor format is still a great show... but it will never happen, and it's too late now, anyway. Cowell couldn't let go of being in control, so next year will probably be the last since the contract is ending... and he's only got himself to blame.
Does that include people watching on catch-up? I never miss the show but will always watch it on a delay so I can skip the ads.
Originally Posted by floozie_21:
“Does that include people watching on catch-up? I never miss the show but will always watch it on a delay so I can skip the ads.”
“Does that include people watching on catch-up? I never miss the show but will always watch it on a delay so I can skip the ads.”
Therein lies the problem for a network reliant on advertising.
It's not surprising. We all watch it in our house as a joke and to take the piss. I mean, some of the stuff they come out with is just hilarious. The other night after Louisa performed Simon was practically kissing her feet and told her he's witnessed the birth of a star. Come on, really?!! She's a good singer with a decent set of lungs who copied Joss Stone's version of a Beach Boys song. She's not an outstanding singer by any means. When Lauren came out and performed surrounded by people in pink and with hair brushes it was like the beauty school drop-out scene from Grease. The judges went on to sing her praises as if she had just done something out of this world, when really it was something that wouldn't have been out of place on a cruise liner. The whole show is so bad that it's actually funny to watch and see how far they will go with it and how seriously all the judges take themselves. It's so contrived and so much of it is so set up and edited horrendously.
X factor is cheese and the public love cheese . When they try and mess with the format and name it cool and trendy it just grates...there is something comforting about the original format
I really think... they have to update the method they use for rating... on iPlayer you cant skip advert... and more people now preffer watching it online...
Why xfactor youtube hits still millions above strictly?
My theory is people watching strictly got limited access online while people watching xfactor are online all the time.
Why xfactor youtube hits still millions above strictly?
My theory is people watching strictly got limited access online while people watching xfactor are online all the time.
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“Therein lies the problem for a network reliant on advertising.”
“Therein lies the problem for a network reliant on advertising.”
It's not a problem they will ever be able to get away from unfortunately. That said, there must still be a sizeable number of people who watch the ads - look at all the buzz about Adele releasing that snippet of her new song in an X Factor ad break.
Not surprising.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.
Originally Posted by EvilLlamaThingy:
“Not surprising.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.”
“Not surprising.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.”
I think its the singing contest in general... the voice was also not rating very high.
The current bunch of arrogant, unlikeable contestants isn't helping. Just get people who are nice and can sing in tune.
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“I really think... they have to update the method they use for rating... on iPlayer you cant skip advert... and more people now preffer watching it online...
Why xfactor youtube hits still millions above strictly?
My theory is people watching strictly got limited access online while people watching xfactor are online all the time.”
“I really think... they have to update the method they use for rating... on iPlayer you cant skip advert... and more people now preffer watching it online...
Why xfactor youtube hits still millions above strictly?
My theory is people watching strictly got limited access online while people watching xfactor are online all the time.”
BiB: I think a lot of those would be international.
Also I watch Strictly but I never watch the vids on Youtube. With X Factor I go back and watch my favourite performances.
Originally Posted by worldfree:
“What were the ratings for the results show?”
“What were the ratings for the results show?”
Beaten by the antiques roadshow
Originally Posted by worldfree:
“What were the ratings for the results show?”
“What were the ratings for the results show?”
UK TV ratings: The X Factor bounces back,
UK TV ratings round-up - data supplied by BARB
The X Factor's first live results show fared much better than Saturday night's lowest-rated episode of the series, reclaiming around a million viewers on Sunday.
The ITV talent show attracted an average overnight audience of 6.47 million (27.3%) from 8pm (217,000/1.0% on +1). This is still the fifth lowest-scoring episode of the series so far.
The show lost a huge amount of viewers when the shocking six chair challenge was on, and i doubt if they will come back.
Originally Posted by EvilLlamaThingy:
“Not surprising.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.”
“Not surprising.
And to be honest, I don't think it's a result of people annoyed about format changes, lower talent, the judging, etc. etc. I think people have just had their fill of X Factor after 11 seasons and don't care to watch anymore.”
The manipulation is one thing but you are right, for many it has become the Boredom Factor.
From a betting forum:
1) Blatant ramping for acts they want in the final or to win - Fleur was diabolical last year in some of her acts but she was still praised. It was perplexing and difficult to watch, even if you didn't have a financial interest imho.
2) Insiders trading - Monica was traded from 1000/1 down to less than 50 about a day before it was announced. Although not many gamble on the show, those that do seem to be in the press/media.
3) Simon's treatment of the acts he disposes of have since appeared on numerous TV programs and tabloids criticising the show.
4) Every person who auditions have family members. If they fail to qualify or are voted out due to dodgy manipulation then they all take it a bit personal. If I was Nicks family I'd be seething at his treatment, I'm sure a lot of scots have. Would be interesting to know how many scots haven't tuned in since that disgrace.
5) Olly Murs is struggling with his sentences and looks out of his depth, trying his hardest to be Dermot. Caroline Flack is just tagging along and adding very little, if she does contribute Olly tries to take the fame from her.
6) Bad press from the last few results on BGT. How the boys possibly won last year and the dog act fraud this year hasn't been good for Syco.
7) Affair shows Simon in a different light, possibly a bit of a creep or untrustworthy to some, although this should be countered by the type who like a bad boy.
8) Too Smug. I do like Simon, I'm a bit of an arrogant **** too but he might appear too smug and cocky for the general public.
9) Needs more 'performance' such as artists who can dance. The X-Factor isn't strictly a singing competition, unless of course they want to de-ramp someone. Dancing programs such as Strictly are proving this is what the public want.
10) The de-ramping or ramping over the years creates contradictions and confusion or frustration for the viewers. There need to be more consistency or un-bias.
11) Production Intelligence - Make it a global stage and remove the (possible) restriction from UK voting only. There is no valid benefit to only allow UK voting, it actually hinders global viewing figures and makes no sense at all. If a person in Australia wants to download and vote then let them and also show them Australian adverts. App advertising is a multi-billion dollar industry! Wake the hell up and get with the times!
1) Blatant ramping for acts they want in the final or to win - Fleur was diabolical last year in some of her acts but she was still praised. It was perplexing and difficult to watch, even if you didn't have a financial interest imho.
2) Insiders trading - Monica was traded from 1000/1 down to less than 50 about a day before it was announced. Although not many gamble on the show, those that do seem to be in the press/media.
3) Simon's treatment of the acts he disposes of have since appeared on numerous TV programs and tabloids criticising the show.
4) Every person who auditions have family members. If they fail to qualify or are voted out due to dodgy manipulation then they all take it a bit personal. If I was Nicks family I'd be seething at his treatment, I'm sure a lot of scots have. Would be interesting to know how many scots haven't tuned in since that disgrace.
5) Olly Murs is struggling with his sentences and looks out of his depth, trying his hardest to be Dermot. Caroline Flack is just tagging along and adding very little, if she does contribute Olly tries to take the fame from her.
6) Bad press from the last few results on BGT. How the boys possibly won last year and the dog act fraud this year hasn't been good for Syco.
7) Affair shows Simon in a different light, possibly a bit of a creep or untrustworthy to some, although this should be countered by the type who like a bad boy.
8) Too Smug. I do like Simon, I'm a bit of an arrogant **** too but he might appear too smug and cocky for the general public.
9) Needs more 'performance' such as artists who can dance. The X-Factor isn't strictly a singing competition, unless of course they want to de-ramp someone. Dancing programs such as Strictly are proving this is what the public want.
10) The de-ramping or ramping over the years creates contradictions and confusion or frustration for the viewers. There need to be more consistency or un-bias.
11) Production Intelligence - Make it a global stage and remove the (possible) restriction from UK voting only. There is no valid benefit to only allow UK voting, it actually hinders global viewing figures and makes no sense at all. If a person in Australia wants to download and vote then let them and also show them Australian adverts. App advertising is a multi-billion dollar industry! Wake the hell up and get with the times!
I didn't watch any X Factor on Saturday. Instead, I watched just the performances on YouTube later that night - it literally took me 25 minutes to watch the entire show.
The show is becoming stale. The public vote for the same type of acts every year. Every year the male joke act finishes 5th or 6th for example, so we can guarantee that is where Reggie n Bollie will end up for example.
I think the editing is very American and I'll explain what I mean.
If you watched the UK version of Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, obviously it was an edited show but the edits seemed natural at best and plausible at worst. The US version of Kitchen Nightmares is edited to an inch of its life whereby you don't actually believe for a second that a single scene or conversation on it is real: a hard cut on the end of pretty much every sentence, clear voice dubs in the dialogue, weird hard-cut reaction shots you strongly suspect didn't happen at the time. This is how X Factor is now.
During the recorded parts of the show at times you were usually clues that all wasn't as it seemed i.e large swathes of audience standing up and cheering but the sound of the applause being either delayed or totally missing. And then seeing the exact same scene two weeks later for someone else. Even the judge's facial reactions half the time were either clearly staged or edited in from another performance. At times you'd hear a massive cheer and cut to an audience sitting on their hands. Nothing about the editing seemed organic or real. It seemed very US-style. It's as if they're terrified of something happening on the show that they didn't already plan for to the point where even if a singer does get a standing ovation from an audience they can't just show it as it was they have to get another ovation from another performance and put that in over the top of it instead.
It's a show ruined by production control freaks
If you watched the UK version of Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares, obviously it was an edited show but the edits seemed natural at best and plausible at worst. The US version of Kitchen Nightmares is edited to an inch of its life whereby you don't actually believe for a second that a single scene or conversation on it is real: a hard cut on the end of pretty much every sentence, clear voice dubs in the dialogue, weird hard-cut reaction shots you strongly suspect didn't happen at the time. This is how X Factor is now.
During the recorded parts of the show at times you were usually clues that all wasn't as it seemed i.e large swathes of audience standing up and cheering but the sound of the applause being either delayed or totally missing. And then seeing the exact same scene two weeks later for someone else. Even the judge's facial reactions half the time were either clearly staged or edited in from another performance. At times you'd hear a massive cheer and cut to an audience sitting on their hands. Nothing about the editing seemed organic or real. It seemed very US-style. It's as if they're terrified of something happening on the show that they didn't already plan for to the point where even if a singer does get a standing ovation from an audience they can't just show it as it was they have to get another ovation from another performance and put that in over the top of it instead.
It's a show ruined by production control freaks
The show has been ruined by Cowell and the producers' obsession with remaining the Number 1 Saturday night show. Once Strictly started beating it in the ratings, Cowell's ego couldn't take it. Instead of accepting you can't be on top forever (but still be successful), there have been constant changes and increasing micro-management of every aspect of the show. The result has been instead of battling against Strictly, the show is competing against Antiques Roadshow and Countryfile.
The funny thing is X-Factor USA was ruined the same way. The first season garnered more than 10 million viewers most weeks, but instead of Cowell accepting those were decent numbers he was annoyed that Idol and The Voice were doing better. Cue every season being a revamp and the ratings dropping each year. By the end of its run the X-Factor USA was being beaten by second-rate talent shows like The Sing-Off. We're basically seeing history repeating.
The funny thing is X-Factor USA was ruined the same way. The first season garnered more than 10 million viewers most weeks, but instead of Cowell accepting those were decent numbers he was annoyed that Idol and The Voice were doing better. Cue every season being a revamp and the ratings dropping each year. By the end of its run the X-Factor USA was being beaten by second-rate talent shows like The Sing-Off. We're basically seeing history repeating.
