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Old 03-11-2015, 16:40
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Kathy seems to be meandering through the square as obvious as the Thames does through London on the opening credits...

Do those that know Kathy (or at least know of her) know whats going on? that the once dead Kaffy aint dead no more, and also, given she went and spoke to the battle axe that is Marsden and confessed everything - WHY hasnt she been banged up?

lets be honest, fraud of this nature is an outright inprisonable offence regardless of how manipulative Gav may be, and she would have been banged up while investigations were carried out?

I know that Martin and Dot know of her return, but noone else on the square seems to care or even know?
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Old 03-11-2015, 16:50
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Nobody seems to be shocked in the slightest.

Martin just accepted it.

Tracy saw her in the vic and just smiled and said "You're back"

Dot just gave her a speech

Phil and the majority of the Mitchells already knew

The only one who had a realistic reaction was Ben
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:16
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Everybody does seem to know yes and not be at all fazed by it which is strange in the extreme.

Of course some people might not actually know who she is and the history and just think she is new to the area. But people like Denise and Shirley do seem to know it is Kathy though God knows who explained it all to them.
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:23
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Everybody does seem to know yes and not be at all fazed by it which is strange in the extreme.

Of course some people might not actually know who she is and the history and just think she is new to the area. But people like Denise and Shirley do seem to know it is Kathy though God knows who explained it all to them.
I assume as Denise was with ian for a while that she would have seem photos of Kathy and Ian probably would have mentioned her to Denise too. Shirley is an odd one though
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:36
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I assume as Denise was with ian for a while that she would have seem photos of Kathy and Ian probably would have mentioned her to Denise too. Shirley is an odd one though
Probably related to her somehow
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:46
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I'd have thought Shirley would have seen a photo of her at some stage through Ben. I know that Phil is unlikely to have had photos on display but surely Ben had photos of his Mum somewhere though didn't she ask Phil to describe her on their non wedding day so perhaps not.

The other thing is are there any photos of her up at Beales? I thought that Ian did a family collage when they renamed it to play up the family business aspect and I think Pete is on it so it would make sense for Kathy to be as well. So, a lot of people might recognise the face from that, even if they hadn't studied it in detail.
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:54
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I am surprised she's not been arrested for fraud. Did I miss that?
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Old 03-11-2015, 17:56
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I am surprised she's not been arrested for fraud. Did I miss that?
Gavin made her do it
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:08
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I am surprised she's not been arrested for fraud. Did I miss that?
I think that is due to happen soon
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:09
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I think that is due to happen soon
Before or after we learn what Stacey's Key unlocks?
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:16
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Before or after we learn what Stacey's Key unlocks?
That's the key to Max's chastity belt
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:16
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Surely she would be hounded more by the press than Gavin. I sometimes watch EE and think ive missed an episode
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:24
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That's the key to Max's chastity belt
I thought you nicked that a couple of years ago?
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:26
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I was surprised at the lack of reaction from Shirley, I would imagine that she would have seen pictures? She has lived with Phil and Ben, and has been in Ian's house numerous times. Denise would have surely mentioned it too. The only reaction we saw outside of the immediate family was Tracey, Dot and Denise wasn't it? Same with Mick/Shirley.

I was looking forward to the reactions from people on the square, but I guess there isn't many who know who Kathy was, who haven't already seen her/found out about her being alive, and quickly accepted it.

I would have thought Kathy would have been questioned by the police more too?
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:29
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Gavin made her do it
Surely that would be for a Court to decide?

I mean, we could all commit a criminal offence and then just claim somebody forced us to do it when the going gets tough. Will the Police always just shrug their shoulders and say "okay then, don't do it again". We the Audience know the situation but the Police and CPS only have Kathy's word for it. For all we know, if and when Gavin is caught and questioned, he'll say that Kathy was the brains behind it all and manipulated him into it.
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:34
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Surely she would be hounded more by the press than Gavin. I sometimes watch EE and think ive missed an episode
Yes, good point. The Press would be all over this, even without the Lucy connection - with that link as well it would probably go National. Imagine the headline "Tragic Lucy Nan back from the Dead after 10 years - missed her Granddaughters funeral and son's conviction for killing Neighbour".
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Old 03-11-2015, 18:37
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Gavin made her do it
Well that would be her defence in a court of law after the police arrest and charge her. It wouldn't be the case that the police would be unable to charge her with fraud because of thst.
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Old 03-11-2015, 19:04
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Having Tracy greet her, as if she just go back from a cruise, was ludicrous. The whole plot line is falling apart ( imo)
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:09
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Having Tracy greet her, as if she just go back from a cruise, was ludicrous. The whole plot line is falling apart ( imo)
I agree
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:11
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Having Tracy greet her, as if she just go back from a cruise, was ludicrous. The whole plot line is falling apart ( imo)
Tracy had spoken to her over the phone so she knew she was alive
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:14
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Tracy had spoken to her over the phone so she knew she was alive
I still think she'd have more to say when she saw her in person than just "You're Back" with a smile like she'd been on holiday.

Then again when it comes to Tracey and saying what she thinks...
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:17
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I still think she'd have more to say when she saw her in person than just "You're Back" with a smile like she'd been on holiday.

Then again when it comes to Tracey and saying what she thinks...
No I agree with you and peg. But Tracey has seen it all
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:19
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No I agree with you and peg. But Tracey has seen it all
She has seen it all... Even Philth in all his glory
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:27
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There's a picture of Kathy on Phil's wall. You can see it here at the bottom: http://i1.cdnds.net/14/19/soaps-eastenders-4860-7.jpg

It's of her and Phil at Ben's christening. The strange thing is Ben isn't visible in it. This is the only version I could find with Ben online http://www.atvtoday.co.uk/wp-content...y-phil-ben.gif Why would you have a picture of you and your ex on the wall. It's the same with Ian and his photos of Cindy. No wonder Sharon is insecure.

As for Kathy, I presume once Dot found out it didn't take long for it to spread around the square. Kathy's different to Den in that most of the characters who know her are either her family or linked to her family. With Den there was loads who didn't know until he went out on the square as they were not family eg. Pauline, Ian, Dot and Pat. They could've done more with Martin and Dot's reactions to Kathy I suppose. As for everyone else would they care about a woman they don't know beyond mild curiosity?

A lot of people weren't impressed with even Ian and Ben's reactions although for me they were in character and fine, we just could've done with a 2 hander. I like the Carters and they have been underused for months but those scenes with Babe and Elaine could've waited. I don't like block storytelling but Kathy's return is one occasion dedicating episodes to a single family would've been justified.
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Old 04-11-2015, 08:35
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Wasn't Shirley in a rush when she bumped into Kathy, I don't think she really looked at her and even then she wouldn't be thinking about Kathy.
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