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Celebs next year to be pre-trained?
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Littlegreen42
03-11-2015
The judges obviously have their favourites and it's plain to see the pre-trained celebs Jay, Helen and Kellie are favoured this year over the others.

Jay and Kellie have both had dances with mistakes that the judges conveniently ignore, and don't get me started on Helen getting Adele's 'Hello' for her dance this week...

I really feel for the ones who start from bugger all, being made to look inadequate against contestants with unfair advantages.
Arcana
03-11-2015
Perhaps they should let the viewers have a vote to even things up a bit. 😵
BMLisa
03-11-2015
Sorry when did they forget to penalise Jay for a mistake?
j0anne
03-11-2015
Most of them have some form of training and i would bet my bottom dollar some went and hit lessons prior to the show
yellowlabbie
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by j0anne:
“Most of them have some form of training and i would bet my bottom dollar some went and hit lessons prior to the show”

Not most of them, 4 as far as we know. I doubt Ewan, Jeremy, Ainsley, Carol, Jamelia, Kirsty, katie, Peter or Anita have had any training prior to the show.
dancingbearbear
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“I really feel for the ones who start from bugger all, being made to look inadequate against contestants with unfair advantages.”

I'm sure banking the massive bag of cash they get for doing the show salves their wounds somewhat.
j0anne
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Not most of them, 4 as far as we know. I doubt Ewan, Jeremy, Ainsley, Carol, Jamelia, Kirsty, katie, Peter or Anita have had any training prior to the show.”

Jamilia and Peter are on stage and do choreographed dances with professionals and are trained by the choreographers ......

Agreed in theory but if you were going on a dance show would you not sneak a few lessons in?
yellowlabbie
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by j0anne:
“Jamilia and Peter are on stage and do choreographed dances with professionals and are trained by the choreographers ......

Agreed in theory but if you were going on a dance show would you not sneak a few lessons in?”

Yes, maybe agree about Jamelia and Peter but no I would not sneak a few lessons in, that would be cheating.
fatskia
03-11-2015
Jeremy and Carol haven't been in the dance off yet. There's a reason for that.
BMLisa
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by fatskia:
“Jeremy and Carol haven't been in the dance off yet. There's a reason for that.”

You don't mean that speaking to millions of people everyday about their experience might be an advantage? Surely not?
yellowlabbie
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“You don't mean that speaking to millions of people everyday about their experience might be an advantage? Surely not?”

and being a member of a popular boyband?
BMLisa
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“and being a member of a popular boyband?”

Hey I never said he didn't have an advantage being in a boyband, but it's silly to pretend some dance lessons is the only advantage you could ever have in Strictly.

I'd imagine being in a boyband for a few years that's on hiatus with most of the fans having probably moved on is far less of an advantage than being a current pop star and tabloid darling with over 3M followers and a current album in the charts and weekly appearances on the biggest daytime shows if we want to play tit for tat on advantages.

We all know there are loads of different advantages so let's cut out the silliness and just accept, in no way will it ever be completely fair, and that's what the public vote is for and why they tell you to vote for your favourite.
StigOfTheKrump
03-11-2015
Did Katie not do ballet or did I dream that?
StrictlyRed
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Did Katie not do ballet or did I dream that?”

I heard Ian say that she had ballet training on ITT last week.
wazzyboy
03-11-2015
Even if they all started at zero and got training some would respond better than others, there really isn't a way to level the playing field IMO
yellowlabbie
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Hey I never said he didn't have an advantage being in a boy and, but it's silly to pretend some dance lessons is the only advantage you could ever have in Strictly.

I'd imagine being in a boyband for a few years that's on hiatus with most of the fans having probably moved on is far less of an advantage than being a current pop star and tabloid darling with over 3M followers and a current album in the charts and weekly appearances on the biggest daytime shows if we want to play tit for tat on advantages.

We all know there are loads of different advantages so let's cut out the silliness and just accept, in no way will it ever be completely fair, and that's what the public vote is for and why they tell you to vote for your favourite.”

Jay does however seem to have all the advantages, what with dance training for 6 six years and then being a member of a popular boy band. He really does have a massive head start over every one else whatever excuses are made for him.
Monkseal
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“You don't mean that speaking to millions of people everyday about their experience might be an advantage? Surely not?”

In fairness, I don't remember Carol's weather reports running "there's thick fog all over the south east today and also all these shimmies are chafing my nipples something chronic".
BMLisa
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“In fairness, I don't remember Carol's weather reports running "there's thick fog all over the south east today and also all these shimmies are chafing my nipples something chronic".”

I don't watch breakfast in the mornings anymore, but I'm sure when Chris was on they'd always chat to him about Strictly, do they not chat to Carole about it then?
Strictly_fan
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“The judges obviously have their favourites and it's plain to see the pre-trained celebs Jay, Helen and Kellie are favoured this year over the others.

Jay and Kellie have both had dances with mistakes that the judges conveniently ignore, and don't get me started on Helen getting Adele's 'Hello' for her dance this week...

I really feel for the ones who start from bugger all, being made to look inadequate against contestants with unfair advantages.”

And why don't you like Helen dancing to Hello. It's s amazing song and number 1. Georgia danced to Writings on The Wall before the film was released
StigOfTheKrump
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“In fairness, I don't remember Carol's weather reports running "there's thick fog all over the south east today and also all these shimmies are chafing my nipples something chronic".”

Well someone doesn't pay enough attention to the weather...
Alli-F
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“In fairness, I don't remember Carol's weather reports running "there's thick fog all over the south east today and also all these shimmies are chafing my nipples something chronic".”


It's more subliminal, she does a Jay arm waft every time she points at the weather map
hansue
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Jay does however seem to have all the advantages, what with dance training for 6 six years and then being a member of a popular boy band. He really does have a massive head start over every one else whatever excuses are made for him.”

I asked someone on the forum who I respect greatly and know has vast dance experience, if Jay has a big advantage over everyone else and she/he said no because he had not been taught Ballroom or Latin where he trained. So that's good enough for me. I know you will never be convinced as I appreciate that you don't like him and that is fair enough.
Littlegreen42
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by Strictly_fan:
“And why don't you like Helen dancing to Hello. It's s amazing song and number 1. Georgia danced to Writings on The Wall before the film was released”

It's undeniably the biggest song in the world right now, basically the best you could be given for a slow dance this week.
lundavra
03-11-2015
How long would the programme last if the only competitors were Jereme Vine, Carol Kirkwood, Anne Widdecombe, John Sergeant ....... There might be some novelty value but viewing figures would plummet.
MACTOWIN
03-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“I'm sure banking the massive bag of cash they get for doing the show salves their wounds somewhat.”

I thought they got around £25k that is not massive for most of them as the likes of Kirsty would get that for hosting 3 company awards night functions. I am aware she made around £8k for one a couple of years ago.
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