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Old 03-11-2015, 20:52
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Sharon has a brother called Jonathan Harvey and Kathy has a brother called Jonathan Hills but this is eastenders could Sharon be Kathys half sisters as well?
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:53
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No.

Kathy has always had two brothers and a sister. It's always been a part of her back story but we have only met Ted and the others haven't been mentioned for years. The two Jonathans aren't the same person. Kathy's Jonathan will be around her age and Sharon's is much younger.
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:54
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EDIT: Sharons half brother Jonathan Hanley by her mother Carol is nothing to do with the unseen brother of Kathy.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:05
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EDIT: Sharons half brother Jonathan Hanley by her mother Carol is nothing to do with the unseen brother of Kathy.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:09
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Since when did Kathy have 2 brothers
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:10
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:11
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Since when did Kathy have 2 brothers
I only found out when I just looked on Wiki, must have been mentioned back when Ted was in it because he hasnt appeared on screen.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:13
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Maybe this is how EE ends. Everyone realising that they are all related and have been committing incest for years. Dot reveals her 6 toes, Den comes back playing a banjo and everyone shoots themselves in shock. Fade to black...
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:18
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Since when did Kathy have 2 brothers
It was mentioned very early on and of course Ted was a major charter for a couple of years in the mid 90s.

Kathy was meant to be from a very rough family, deemed common by Lou Beale. It was the reason (along with Lou not believing in divorce) that she didn't approve of Pete marrying Kathy and never totally accepted her.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:22
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Re the OP though, it is possible for several people to have the same name. I was one of 4 Kathryn/Katherines in my class at School.

My best friend has exactly the same name as her sister in law, as her husband's sister has the same first name as her, then obviously she changed her surname when she married so it was the same as her sister in laws maiden name.

My godmother has a sister and a sister in law called Margaret

It happens.

They've used the co-incidence of Sharon's biological father and Kathy's 3rd husband bth being named as Gavin in what were asides at the time to draw them together but I really don't think it means that there is always a connection.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:25
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Who were Kathys parents...
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:26
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Thank you Kitkat and Foxster
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:27
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Re the OP though, it is possible for several people to have the same name. I was one of 4 Kathryn/Katherines in my class at School.

Perhaps Kathy is actually a slater because of The similarity in name to Kat?

They've used the co-incidence of Sharon's biological father and Kathy's 3rd husband bth being named as Gavin in what were asides at the time to draw them together but I really don't think it means that there is always a connection.
I Have a relative called Dave and so must be related to everyone on the forum who also have relativeis called Dave going by the OPs logic.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:53
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Back in the 80s Kathy mentioned her childhood quite a lot she mentioned having a lot of siblings and being from a very poor, deprived family. The only brother that was ever given a name was Ted. I doubt she has a brother called Jonathan the name is a bit too middle class.
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:55
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Peggy and Gavin both have a sister called Sal
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Old 03-11-2015, 21:56
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Back in the 80s Kathy mentioned her childhood quite a lot she mentioned having a lot of siblings and being from a very poor, deprived family. The only brother that was ever given a name was Ted. I doubt she has a brother called Jonathan the name is a bit too middle class.
I think the name Jonathan for her other brother comes from one of the Hugh Miller novels and there is some debate as to whether those are canon. Stephanie, her sister, however was mentioned by name on the show as Kathy suggested to Pauline and Lou that Michelle go to Stephanie's to have her baby.
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Old 03-11-2015, 22:14
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Since when did Kathy have 2 brothers
According to Wiki Kathy has three brothers Ted,Colin, Jonathan and a sister called Stephanie
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Old 03-11-2015, 22:22
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Peggy and Gavin both have a sister called Sal
Are you suggesting that Peggy is Gavins secret third sister?
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Old 03-11-2015, 22:25
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This would be silly
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Old 03-11-2015, 22:27
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This would be silly
And everything that's going on in EastEnders at the minute isn't??
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Old 03-11-2015, 22:47
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Yes, I think a lot of stuff re additional siblings of a lot of characters comes from the tie in novels they did in the 80s, also 'the Inside Story' which had detailed character 'bibles' and 'Civvy Street' and it can be hard to remember exactly what was stated within the main show and when.

Re Kathy, i remember references to the large family and them having been very much 'wrong side of the tracks' and also the suggestion that Michelle go to one of Kathy's sisters for her 'duration' to try and keep it secret if they planned to have the baby adopted - something that took on extra significance a few weeks later when we learnt that Kathy had had a secret baby when she was 14.

It's like the Branning backstory being tweaked. When Carol and Daviiid first turned up we were told that Carols father and brothers (note the plural) had run David out of town and i got the impression they were older though it might not have specifically stated. Then, it gets changed so Carol is actually one of the oldest and 2 of her 3 brothers would have been much too young to actively take part in scaring David off - i mean what did 4 year old Jack do - bite him on the shins???!!!

I don't think Jonathan is too middle class. Granted it is posher than plain John but not sIgnificantly different to Katherine or Edward which i think was Ted's full name. Edwin is a family name on my Dad's side and they were far from posh.
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Old 03-11-2015, 23:01
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Well logic would say no as Sharon's brother wouldn't be more then 30+.

Despite EE recent surge in long lost relatives, not everyone is related.
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Old 03-11-2015, 23:03
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Who were Kathys parents...
Cora is the hot favourite to be revealed as her mother
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Old 03-11-2015, 23:10
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Old 03-11-2015, 23:13
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I Have a relative called Dave and so must be related to everyone on the forum who also have relativeis called Dave going by the OPs logic.
There was another girl in my year that had the same first and surname as me. We were of course actually split in two soon after birth and born the same person!

To be fair, given the way Soaps do generally insist on having only one person in with the same name at any one time and this recent co-incidence of Kathy's Gavin being Sharon's Gavin I can see why people would jump to conclusions. They didn't have to give Gavin's second, previously unnamed sister the name of Margaret for example. Whilst Phil is right, it is a very common name (hence there being so many shortened versions of it to differentiate between people in the same family sharing it) when his other sister is Sally, so exactly the same as Peggy and Aunt Sal it can seem like it must mean something.

@Hank - we never met Kathy's parents and do,'t think much was said about them. She was pretty desperate to get away from them i think i as mentioned they were very poor and rough and maybe not very nice to her following her rape and pregnancy. I do,'t think she had any contact with them - Ian certainly never gave the impression of having contact with his maternal grandparents - it was all about Lou and Pauline.
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