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some pros not as good at ballroom
Is it me or is this a dying art, its getting more like gymnastics every week
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no, its not just you
proper ballroom dancing and teaching on strictly is a dying art - sadly |
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There's always Anton
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Its certainly not a dying art outside of Strictly. They just select the wrong professionals for the show.
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Sadly as far as SCD is concerned dancing seems to have given way to crowd pleasing acrobatics. If it wasn't for Len banging on about foot work and how everything eminates from what is going on at floor level we wouldn't know that this even existed.
I am not a purest by any stretch. I dance AT and salsa both of which are quite unregulated (not quite the word I mean but will do) but I don't see the point of using the premise of foxtrot, paso, rumba and then ignoring what those styles are. If you are not going to stay true to such styles, you could just as easily fashion a show based on show dances of no particular style against a themed backdrop . |
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I think the ballroom standard has lowered with the addition of some of the BTF professionals who do not have a traditional ballroom/latin background.
There are plenty of pros out there who do have the right credentials - just a pity the powers that be don't use them (even on BTF there are dancers with the right background so maybe they will start using them) |
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I think the ballroom standard has lowered with the addition of some of the BTF professionals who do not have a traditional ballroom/latin background.
There are plenty of pros out there who do have the right credentials - just a pity the powers that be don't use them (even on BTF there are dancers with the right background so maybe they will start using them) ![]() She had all the credentials and had produced some good dances. Plus she was a bit zany, and I like them to be different characters. |
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Its certainly not a dying art outside of Strictly. They just select the wrong professionals for the show.
too much Burn The Floor and not enough ballroom |
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And yet they got rid of Iveta.
![]() She had all the credentials and had produced some good dances. Plus she was a bit zany, and I like them to be different characters. |
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A friend of mine is quite a prominent judge is USA and has had a really busy schedule lately and Iveta has been judging with him at them all - that coupled with quite a few things going on at her Manhattan Studio have a feeling it may have been Iveta's choice not to return
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And on topic, aside from Natalie, Anton and Alijaz who are specialists in ballroom, who else is good in ballroom?
Brendan, although a latin specialist, I think is better at ballroom than latin. Aliona is a ten dance specialist, isnt she? Kevin? Gleb? |
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And on topic, aside from Natalie, Anton and Alijaz who are specialists in ballroom, who else is good in ballroom?
Brendan, although a latin specialist, I think is better at ballroom than latin. Aliona is a ten dance specialist, isnt she? Kevin? Gleb? Glebs ballroom has not impressed me at all. |
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bendymixer will certainly be able to correct me here, but I know that Kevin has had a thorough grounding in Ballroom. He used to dance with Jo right through Juniors and Juveniles at the highest level.
Glebs ballroom has not impressed me at all. ![]() Regarding kevin, that is what I thought, but then he is a BTF alumni and seems to prefer latin dances (Jive and Paso?). |
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BIB I think you are right, though I think his choreography is beautiful and striking not sure if technically that good, but I am no expert. I am here for his looks.
![]() Regarding kevin, that is what I thought, but then he is a BTF alumni and seems to prefer latin dances (Jive and Paso?). |
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BIB I think you are right, though I think his choreography is beautiful and striking not sure if technically that good, but I am no expert. I am here for his looks.
![]() Regarding kevin, that is what I thought, but then he is a BTF alumni and seems to prefer latin dances (Jive and Paso?). You missed Jo off your ballroom list and she is leagues ahead of all of them in Ballroom |
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Kevin may be BTF but had a full competitive background from the age of 5 winning ballrooma and latin at the highest levels with Joanne - which included Junior Ballroom titles , it was only at 16/17 he specialised in Latin and Jo ballroom
You missed Jo off your ballroom list and she is leagues ahead of all of them in Ballroom |
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I have no idea of his background but from what I have seen of Gleb's technique so far I would say his ballroom is worse than Anton's Latin! That footwork in Saturday's waltz was grim. People are swayed by the novelty of his contemporary choreography which is dramatic and interesting, but it's his technical deficiency (and therefore Anita's) which is resulting in their lower marks in my opinion, but the judges need to be more explicit than they are being - Len must have noticed his lack of heel leads.
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I think Kristina is quite good at both Latin and ballroom! She produces good choreography that showcases her partner well! I think she's underrated and deserves more credit then she gets! The only judge ive noticed that applauded her was Craig and Alesha!
I think givinani (however you spell it ) has produced some decent ballroom I thought the quickstep and tango were good! Not keen on his Latin but there's still time for him to showcase his Latin ability!Gleb is brilliant! |
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Kevin may be BTF but had a full competitive background from the age of 5 winning ballrooma and latin at the highest levels with Joanne - which included Junior Ballroom titles , it was only at 16/17 he specialised in Latin and Jo ballroom
You missed Jo off your ballroom list and she is leagues ahead of all of them in Ballroom |
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Aljaz is a ballroom expert but his celebrities always seem to have gapping issues
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I have no idea of his background but from what I have seen of Gleb's technique so far I would say his ballroom is worse than Anton's Latin! That footwork in Saturday's waltz was grim. People are swayed by the novelty of his contemporary choreography which is dramatic and interesting, but it's his technical deficiency (and therefore Anita's) which is resulting in their lower marks in my opinion, but the judges need to be more explicit than they are being - Len must have noticed his lack of heel leads.
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Aljaz is a ballroom expert but his celebrities always seem to have gapping issues
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I have no idea of his background but from what I have seen of Gleb's technique so far I would say his ballroom is worse than Anton's Latin! That footwork in Saturday's waltz was grim. People are swayed by the novelty of his contemporary choreography which is dramatic and interesting, but it's his technical deficiency (and therefore Anita's) which is resulting in their lower marks in my opinion, but the judges need to be more explicit than they are being - Len must have noticed his lack of heel leads.
Len gave Giovanni a bollocking for the lack of content on his Rumba for Georgia, so here's hoping he'll call out Gleb at some point (without the rudeness, please) |
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And on topic, aside from Natalie, Anton and Alijaz who are specialists in ballroom, who else is good in ballroom?
Brendan, although a latin specialist, I think is better at ballroom than latin. Aliona is a ten dance specialist, isnt she? Kevin? Gleb? |
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I always wondered that. I guess they are intimidated that if they get too close rumours will start?
![]() I can see that Helen STILL has that issue. Btw Brendan is the best male ballroom pro imo. Anton's ballroom is overrated. |
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