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Why did no one pick selina up on her ridiculous grasp of selling... 150 at £4.20 per unit or 50 @ £3.50 per unit !!!!!! Since when does the unit price get lower the fewer you buy?
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YF getting a bit dull now...yawn
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Romesh Ratherunfunny should be fired next.
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That's why Sam should have brought her back into the boardroom. Why he chose Brett I don't know!?
Maybe cause Brett could talk himself out of a paper bag, whereas Sam would wonder how to get into one.
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Why did no one pick selina up on her ridiculous grasp of selling... 150 at £4.20 per unit or 50 @ £3.50 per unit !!!!!! Since when does the unit price get lower the fewer you buy?
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Romesh Ratherunfunny should be fired next.
There was a week when he was very funny, but he's lost it along the way. Also feel that Jack could bring a lot more fun to the show than he does. |
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Maybe cause Brett could talk himself out of a paper bag, whereas Sam would wonder how to get into one.
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I would feel very sorry for Natalie as people do get sick and it is very hard to function efficiently when you are. But it isn't the first pitch she has f+++ed up (sorry, as a 44 year old i found the shampoo stuff very hard to forgive) and other times she hasn't seen to contribute much.
As far as i'm concerned, being able to quickly and accurately calculate profit margins and discounts not to mention understand pricing structures is essential to a sales person and neither Selina or natalie seem to be able to do it which is unforgivable. Scott can clearly do it so why not them? And Brett did work it out beforehand, said she should write it down as it was important and even offered to step in when asked to turn it into a percentage. Absolutely the right decision from the people in the last 3 but i think Selina should have been taken in instead of Brett. Oh and Charleine had a lucky escape - she treated Richard appallingly. If she had that little confidence in Richard she should have stood her ground and not made him sub team leader - to undermine him by constantly asking to speak to David was really horrible and unprofessional. Did we see anyone work out any percentages? Brett did the prices . They knew his prices . They just couldn't answer the question what that meant in terms of profit margins . All that really told us was that the shopkeeper was too thick to work them out themselves. |
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Audience would have Fired Nat too
![]() Nat's pressie is a faces' picture. Seems Nat's a lovely person....but why didn't she show that side of her. |
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Did I just hear the line: "we've painted over somebody's cat"?
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Did I hear that correctly?
"We've painted over somebody's cat". |
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He'd spend a long time wondering how to get into it though bless him ...and Brett would insist that the bag met the exact specifications
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That's why Sam should have brought her back into the boardroom. Why he chose Brett I don't know!?
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What was the point of the audio books? If they weren't being judged on that aspect wasn't it just a complete waste of time?
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Do you think she's that baaaaaaaaad?
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Richard is an obnoxious fool who can sell, sometimes. Charleine did well to neutralise him, but then failed to use her sales people to pitch her big pitch. Her basic decision not to employ him was the right one though - she had better sales options too.
Did we see anyone work out any percentages? Brett did the prices . They knew his prices . They just couldn't answer the question what that meant in terms of profit margins . All that really told us was that the shopkeeper was too thick to work them out themselves. Brett offered to step in to provide the percentages. I don't much like him but i think he did his best there. A Sales team should be able to answer any question asked of them. Why should the shop keeper go to the trouble of working it out for herself when they should have been able to do it for her? Yes, maybe it does indicate she was too thick or lazy to do it but she was the buyer and the customer is always right. |
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That's why Sam should have brought her back into the boardroom. Why he chose Brett I don't know!?
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Disappointing that Charleyne's team won.
Would have been insightful to see just how nasty, bitchy and unpleasant she would have been when cornered. |
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She could have done it in a less obviously demeaning and therefore provoking way in my opinion. She did not need to make him sub team leader at all.
Brett offered to step in to provide the percentages. I don't much like him but i think he did his best there. A Sales team should be able to answer any question asked of them. Why should the shop keeper go to the trouble of working it out for herself when they should have been able to do it for her? Yes, maybe it does indicate she was too thick or lazy to do it but she was the buyer and the customer is always right. I can't see Brett offering any percentages or offering to step in with them later - why would he just not say anyway if he knew.? the boys just offer to take over - there's no evidence they could answer the question asked either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...childrens-book Karen is talking nonsense - what we see of the pitch isn't bad, and, even if Natalie blew it somehow off camera, it fails on the inability to provide a woman, who can't work them out herself, profit percentages. What we see starts at 32-10 in, and is over a minute and a half later. Very few people could work out 2-10 as a percentage of 6-99 in their head. It was a job for a calculator, and whoever had one - and basically for the buyer to do herself. |
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[quote=Aslan52;80245945]Disappointing that Charleyne's team won.
Would have been insightful to see just how nasty, bitchy and unpleasant she would have been when cornered.[/QUyeOTE] Yeah, I find her one of the more unpleasant people and weirdly I quite like Selina, she seems to have her head screwed on, although all the stuff she''s doing now is a bit odd- Equally, Sam shot up in my estimation after Natalie got fired, he seemed genuinely gutted and I really like he gets to stay in the process for a bit longer as decent, intelligent people tend noto to go far with LS |
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Seems Nat's a lovely person....but why didn't she show that side of her. As for why Selina was not brought back by Sam, she has been making very nice comments about him in the house so he probably would feel guilty bringing her in (even though he is the least likeliest guy ever to do anything with that flirting from her). And people who are really hoping that the biggest characters (and probably the best candidates, even if you don't like their personalities) are going anywhere soon are probably mistaken. Still a few deadwood candidates to shift. |
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Its very difficult to give self important incompetent people something to do, but then sideline them so they are kept away from whats important. You would invent a pompous sounding role for them - like deputy leader, or chief of resarch , and then either do it yourself, or parcel the real jobs out ot other. people. There's no such jobs available in The Apprentice. Arguably realising he would be more of a problem, if sulking with nothing to do, was quite smart - although perhaps not exceptionally so, as he had done it before.
I can't see Brett offering any percentages or offering to step in with them later - why would he just not say anyway if he knew.? the boys just offer to take over - there's no evidence they could answer the question asked either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...childrens-book Karen is talking nonsense - what we see of the pitch isn't bad, and, even if Natalie blew it somehow off camera, it fails on the inability to provide a woman, who can't work them out herself, profit percentages. What we see starts at 32-10 in, and is over a minute and a half later. Very few people could work out 2-10 as a percentage of 6-99 in their head. It was a job for a calculator, and whoever had one - and basically for the buyer to do herself. I think not having the courage to name the person she actually wanted running the sub team for her (David) was insulting and weak and suspect she might have come under fire for it had they lost the task. Also for not letting Richard pitch when he has proven experience of it with big corporations. It is hard to tell when so much is edited but she seems to have a personal issue with him (as she also does with Selina) and it intrudes into the professional. Richard could just as easily have blown a gasket at being nuetralised in the manner he was and undermined the whole task. If he is so powerful as to be a danger in that way if just a 'normal' team member, why would humiliating him (and that is what constantly asking to speak to David who technically was answering to Richard did) make him any better? I don't like Richard much by the way, but still though Charleine's man magement was off - both as a human being and to win the task. I still say it doesn't matter if the shop keeper was being lazy - she had a right to ask that question. We don't know that the boys couldn't have worked it out - there must be a reason they keep putting Brett on figures (perhaps he is good at it) and Scott managed with the cat towers last week where Selina could not. Do they not have access to calculators to work it out? And perhaps they were just being polite by asking if she wanted them to take over rather than just doing it as she might have been able to manage it in which case they would have looked bad for undermining her and trying to 'steal' the sale when it was her turn to pitch. |
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Disappointing that Charleyne's team won.
Would have been insightful to see just how nasty, bitchy and unpleasant she would have been when cornered. Seemed a little 'Hail Caeser' to me. I didn't know what to make of selina and Charleine the first couple of weeks - they both seemed competent enough and as though certain other candidates were sidelining or belittling them for no real reason. But now I think they both bring a lot of it on themselves and are as bad as each other in different ways. |
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Yes, I suspect it would have got very bad. What was that "I toast myself" business as well? Is that something that generally happens with a winning PM? The people back at the house raise a glass in congratulations? If it is, then maybe she should wonder why nobody in her team did it for her - a sign they didn't actually think she'd done that well or was responsible for winning it? Or if it has never been done before, why did she think she was so much better than the previous 4 winners to warrant it?
Seemed a little 'Hail Caeser' to me. I didn't know what to make of selina and Charleine the first couple of weeks - they both seemed competent enough and as though certain other candidates were sidelining or belittling them for no real reason. But now I think they both bring a lot of it on themselves and are as bad as each other in different ways. |
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What was the point of the audio book?
Why was Brett brought back? Totally thought Sam would be gone as well. But Selina survived ![]() Charleine was pathetic this week. Cringeworthy. Poor Richard. |
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