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Natalie a charlatan?
He job is to pitch and talk to trade buyers, she seems like a complete amatuer at pitching and she has no connection or rapport with her audience or prospects.
I wonder if she just managed to get by on represnting products from well renowned companies where the product sells itself and the sales were made in spite of her abilities or lack thereof. |
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From what she's done on the show she did seem to big herself up pre-show and not deliver, her shampoo pitch was excruciating and I think she should have went that week.
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Oddly enough, I just had this exact conversation with my wife while watching this week's episode.
My wife hasn't really followed the series but she said Natalie just seemed completely incompetent and, worse, didn't even seem to be aware of all the extra stuff she SHOULD have been doing either. |
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She seemed nice enough on the YF programme, but dear God did she have an unfortunate manner about her on the show - very sullen and unlikeable.
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He job is to pitch and talk to trade buyers, she seems like a complete amatuer at pitching and she has no connection or rapport with her audience or prospects.
I wonder if she just managed to get by on represnting products from well renowned companies where the product sells itself and the sales were made in spite of her abilities or lack thereof. |
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Surprised she lasted this long
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He job is to pitch and talk to trade buyers, she seems like a complete amatuer at pitching and she has no connection or rapport with her audience or prospects.
I wonder if she just managed to get by on represnting products from well renowned companies where the product sells itself and the sales were made in spite of her abilities or lack thereof. If you're in the right place at the right time and know the right person, there are so many 'account manager' jobs out there paying silly money to essentially just look after existing clients or sell a product that potential customers will have 99% already made their mind up on for technical reasons where the goundwork will have been laid down by other people. Firms just need someone who can drive a car and tie their own shoe laces up to physically go and meet them. Also there is a big difference between some who 'talks a lot' amongst their friends and peers and someone who can deliver a competent sales pitch to people they don't know who may be a lot older etc. But it is fascinating how every year on TA 'sales reps' often can't pitch to save their lives. Usually on the TA I find the best pitchers are those that have genuinely run their own business and have a rounded personality which gives them the ability to communicate with a range of people. |
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Those staged 'coughs' to prove to Sugar that she was ill was cringe to the extreme
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It was very worrying that she couldn't work at the profit as a % on the fly, not expecting exact figures but to the nearest % or so. Wholesale £4.00, Retail £6.00 so 50% profit
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Failing to understand how she got on the show in the first place - unless she had a genius business plan. One of the poorest candidates ever in my opinion.
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Couldn't stand her while she was in the show, her demeanour, mannerisms, the awful awful pitches, oh and the faux coughing - hilarious.
Didn't change my mind at all after seeing her on YF |
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In my experience many account managers are delivery drivers in a car and better dressed, but not as personable
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It was very worrying that she couldn't work at the profit as a % on the fly, not expecting exact figures but to the nearest % or so. Wholesale £4.00, Retail £6.00 so 50% profit
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In my experience many account managers are delivery drivers in a car and better dressed, but not as personable
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only reason I can think of is pressure of the whole show, simple things always come undone when youre under pressure. Everyone else in the shop can speak too, so most likely Brett and the other person who was there couldn't figure it out as well.
And lets be honest she's "bigged" herself up twice to pitch, she failed the first time and even this time used some lame excuse why she couldn't pitch to the major retailer. If it had been a stronger PM they'd of said "no" your pitching. Funny how her cold all but disappeared when she had to defend herself in the BR. |
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Those staged 'coughs' to prove to Sugar that she was ill was cringe to the extreme
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Probably my least favourite candidate and was glad to see her go, didn't like the way she came across at all - and she was rubbish. And those fake coughs, oh my god the fake coughs... She should have been fired on the spot for those!
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She was probably one of the worst performing candidates ever. She seemed to be shit at everything.
And her amateur dramatics with the boardroom coughing fits were laughable. |
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She didn't seem very intelligent and had an insolent manner. Glad she went.
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To play devil''s advocate: 1) in the past couple of hours, I seem to have caught a similar cough that is s triggered by my talking;
2) Scott dried up while pitching in the shampoo task, yet is still there. That said, it is hard to make out Natalie was wrongly fired. |
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The pixie girl should've been in the boardroom in the scavenger hunt for buying the wrong cheese.
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The pixie girl should've been in the boardroom in the scavenger hunt for buying the wrong cheese.
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"I'm here to tell you about a secret. ...It's from the desert. ...Desert secret."
That was up there with secret signals and the pitch where she took her shoes off and danced for me. |
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It is a wonder who would ever want Natalie as an account manager; from what was shown, her pitching style was awful and she didn't seem to understand figures. Surely, these points are main aspects of her job; if she had led the bigger pitches, it would have been a bigger failure as her style of pitch couldn't even be saved by a good product. When she said at the end of the pitch she fluffed, that it was a waste of time; that was really rude as the buyer would have heard that. I think almost anyone could have done a better job than her on that case.
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It is a wonder who would ever want Natalie as an account manager; from what was shown, her pitching style was awful and she didn't seem to understand figures. Surely, these points are main aspects of her job; ...
Conduct regular meetings and conference calls with the customer. Present regular account reviews -- reports on performance metrics are probably automated, with perhaps some tweaking needed, such as adding comments. Track ongoing issues (eg network is unreliable around midnight; bills are wrong) and escalate if necessary. It would need someone who is reasonably personable, who knows their way around Microsoft Office, and who can make and maintain internal relationships so they know how and to whom to escalate issues before they become crises. An account manager would probably not be directly involved in sales or marketing, pitching new products or fixing any technical issues, but would interface with the groups who did. |
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