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Old 06-11-2015, 20:36
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So so disappointed the writers decided to take this route with her and Kush. I've always liked Stacey, but I really can't defend her behaviour here, with a friend like her (what she did) Shabnam needs no enemies!

Kush entered as a really promising character but like Charlie (sleeping with Roxy) he has been ruined! A lot of very bad decisions by DTC imo and he was excellent up until the start of the year when the Charlie and Roxy thing started. Why are the writers so obsessed with affairs and pregnancies?!
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Old 06-11-2015, 20:42
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My exact thought on watching the episode was that Kush was going to be another Charlie. Both good actors, with good potential as a character, strong chemistry with the people they interact with... then sleep with the worst person they could possibly sleep with. Kush has lost all audience sympathy now.

And Shabnam is quickly going into Ronnie Mitchell 'perpetual victimhood' territory- giving up one child, losing another, the love of her life getting the woman she's closest to pregnant...

Just a terrible decision all round. What benefit does this story have for any character? It makes Stacey a backstabbing 'slapper', Kush a cheating scumbag and a coward and Shabnam getting to a point where so much crap has happened to her sympathy for her is going to reach saturation... fantastic. Also completely destroys the dynamic I love between Shabnam, Stacey, Martin and Kush.

I'm not a fan of Shabnam/Kush particularly but this is a terrible decision following a brilliant, impactful storyline.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:01
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This truly was the worst episode of EE - is it not enough drama that they lost their baby and that she is a muslim with two pregnancies out of wedlock, that the daughter she abandoned has cystic fibrosis and they have found each other and that is fighting Dean for custody....why do they need to add more to that...why ruin Stacey, ruin Kush, and how will this affect poor Martin and Rebecca and Stacey's daughter.

Whose sick idea was it to make the best friend pregnant with her husband and also having a boy, whilst she only lost her own son about two months ago.

And Stacey after all she put Bradley and Lauren and Tanya through - I never thought she'd be the other woman again ...why even be friends with Shabnam at all. It doesnt make sense. I 'd have accepted Max being the dad...but this is ridiculous.

And how heartless to think its ok to lie to Martin about being the dad...knowingly lying about that should be a crime.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:06
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This truly was the worst episode of EE - is it not enough drama that they lost their baby and that is a muslim with two pregnancies out of wedlock, that the daughter she abandoned has cystic fibrosis and that is fighting Dean for custody....do they need to add more to that...why ruin Stacey, ruin Kush, and how will this affect Martin and Rebecca and Stacey's daughter and making the best friend pregnant by Kush and also having a boy...It's all so pathetic.
Exactly. I'm angrier about this than any of the other daft twists EE seems to have become fond of because the stillbirth story was so powerful and meaningful and now it's been twisted into a done-to-death tawdry story. EE just can't help going 20 steps too far in every story now. I've slowly been getting frustrated by EE's ludicrous twists but I think this is me done with the show now. It's just stupid. It's like they find everything that works and makes the show interesting (in this case: Shabnam/Stacey friendship, the group dynamic between the two couples, Shabnam and Kush's grief and coming together, Shabs reuniting with her daughter) and destroys it.

Also, I missed the first 10 mins- when did Stacey and Kush actually sleep together? I'm positive they only kissed??
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:11
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This storyline has left a bad taste in my mouth. When the character of Kush was first introduced they said it would be all about Kush and Shabnam. Stacey never came into the equation. Then they decides to have Stacey chase Kush and Kush reciprocate whilst at the same time being Shabnam's best friend. Some people seem so shocked by Stacey's behaviour (have they forgotten only 5 years ago she was having an affair with a married man). Rather than redeeming her, the writers have brought her back full circle albeit maturer. Kush has come out of this story worse. Like the previous posters stated. The writers have done a "Charlie" on him.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:14
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Exactly. I'm angrier about this than any of the other daft twists EE seems to have become fond of because the stillbirth story was so powerful and meaningful and now it's been twisted into a done-to-death tawdry story. EE just can't help going 20 steps too far in every story now. I've slowly been getting frustrated by EE's ludicrous twists but I think this is me done with the show now. It's just stupid. It's like they find everything that works and makes the show interesting (in this case: Shabnam/Stacey friendship, the group dynamic between the two couples, Shabnam and Kush's grief and coming together, Shabs reuniting with her daughter) and destroys it.

Also, I missed the first 10 mins- when did Stacey and Kush actually sleep together? I'm positive they only kissed??
We only saw them kiss and play all tortured ... it wasn't even implied they slept together, no guilt towards lying to Martin, no awkwardness around Kush and Shabnam whilst she's carrying his child, Stacey carries on being Shabnam's friend.

It's pathetic..I'd rather have watched her get to grips with being a mum to Jade and dealing with her disability and her guilt and with Kush finding it difficult caring for another child having lost his son and how they could move on....
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:18
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Nooooooo! I haven't watched tonights episode yet but I take it it's been confirmed stacey and kush did have a one night stand then? Really annoyed at EE now, did we really need this again? how many times is this tired old storyline going to be repeated? It is ridiculous! There was skat enough dramas and goings on in the four friends lives without this. Yet another poor decision by EE, I keep waiting for them to redeem themselves from the bobby reveal fiasco and I get more annoyed with every episode!
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:19
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We only saw them kiss and play all tortured ... it wasn't even implied they slept together, no guilt towards lying to Martin, no awkwardness around Kush and Shabnam whilst she's carrying his child, Stacey carries on being Shabnam's friend.

It's pathetic..I'd rather have watched her get to grips with being a mum to Jade and dealing with her disability and her guilt and with Kush finding it difficult caring for another child having lost his son and how they could move on....
BiB: Not at all?! Admittedly I'm pretty off and on with my EE viewing, but I don't remember the slightest hint of it going further. It was pretty 'refreshing' for lack of a better term that two characters on a soap could 'just' kiss, realise it was wrong and stop. Bleh.

It just makes them look like heartless bastards that they could stand back and hang around each other like bezzie mates with both their partners knowing they'd slept together (and Stacey knowing she was having Kush's baby) without any guilt or shame.

Same.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:26
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This truly was the worst episode of EE - is it not enough drama that they lost their baby and that she is a muslim with two pregnancies out of wedlock, that the daughter she abandoned has cystic fibrosis and they have found each other and that is fighting Dean for custody....why do they need to add more to that....
Don't forget that the father of her daughter is scumbag rapist who will likely be dead or locked up soon, It's like the writers are taking gleeful delight in finding ever new ways to torture Shabnam. I can see her trying to kill herself when the truth eventually comes out. Disgusting storyline.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:27
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Every other man must have two sex partners in his life...Charlie, Aleks, Phil, Ben, Kush and Vincent. Max now looks like a saint.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:30
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After losing Zaair, the wedding of Shabnam and Kush should have been a happier affair for the pair instead it was made sordid by the infidelity. The problem with current EE is that they cannot give a a character just one storyline, they overload them like a donkey. Like Mick earlier in the year when he was coping with his wife's rape, finding out Shirley was his mum and Stans cancer. Shabnams dealing with the loss of one child, reuiniting with the daughter she lost and now the paternity issue of Stacey's baby. Denise and Jay are crying out for storylines, there needs to be more balance.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:33
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I think the baby will turn out to be Martin's in the end. DTC never shows his hand this early and surely a Fowler legacy baby is better than it being Kush's. If it's not Martin's then there will probably be a twist and Max is the dad. But I don't think it's Kush.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:35
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After losing Zaair, the wedding of Shabnam and Kush should have been a happier affair for the pair instead it was made sordid by the infidelity. The problem with current EE is that they cannot give a a character just one storyline, they overload them like a donkey. Like Mick earlier in the year when he was coping with his wife's rape, finding out Shirley was his mum and Stans cancer. Shabnams dealing with the loss of one child, reuiniting with the daughter she lost and now the paternity issue of Stacey's baby. Denise and Jay are crying out for storylines, there needs to be more balance.
You've made a great point there. When they overloaded mick with alk those diff storylines it made it difficult to empathise or get involved at certain points because it was jumping around from one place to another. The thing with shabnam is that the potential was there to really explore how their grief over their baby would affect her, kush, their families and their friendship with Martin and stacey once their child was born. There really wasn't any need to make kush the father as well, they already had a lot of great areas to go without trying to sensationalise it further.
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:41
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I think the baby will turn out to be Martin's in the end. DTC never shows his hand this early and surely a Fowler legacy baby is better than it being Kush's. If it's not Martin's then there will probably be a twist and Max is the dad. But I don't think it's Kush.
How many men did Stacey sleep with in a given time period (due dates)?
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Old 06-11-2015, 21:42
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Awful awful awful decision. Revealing it on what should have been Kush and Shabman's perfect day was an even worse decision.

Just bad.

Just very bad choice.

Poor!

Wrecking Stacey/Martin, Shabs/Kush, the friendship of Stacey and Shabs in one swoop. Also takes away from the stillbirth plot.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:07
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Awful awful awful decision. Revealing it on what should have been Kush and Shabman's perfect day was an even worse decision.

Just bad.

Just very bad choice.

Poor!

Wrecking Stacey/Martin, Shabs/Kush, the friendship of Stacey and Shabs in one swoop. Also takes away from the stillbirth plot.
Yep, we can forget that....they've each got themselves a spare child.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:08
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Kush woll long for the baby. Eventually Shabs and Martin find out the truth.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:17
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This storyline has not only ruined kush's character but Staceys too. What was the point in her coming back to be involved in such a pointless, tasteless storyline. It would have made more sense if it was Deans. It also silly because Kudh is half iranian and the baby will likely look it too. EE has had its ups and downs but the characters lack consistency and depth now, the conclusion to so called big storylines have been lack luster
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:30
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Dtc loves ruining characters.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:37
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I am absolutely livid that Kush is the dad. I love him and Shabnam as a couple but no. They had to go and ruin it just like they ruin everything else.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:38
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Cannot stand sanctimonious Stacey, what on earth does Martin see in her?
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:42
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Dtc loves ruining characters.
You can say that again. This will just lead to nothing but misery and its already depressing and unecessary. I wish EE and other soaps would stop doing affair storylines and have more couples solid but face other problems that they get through.
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Old 06-11-2015, 22:51
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Are we going to have to endure yet another story of a baby with a genetic condition, probably blood related, that can only be resolved by the real father stepping up?
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Old 06-11-2015, 23:07
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It's like they have made a bet " how many characters can we ruin in a year"
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Old 06-11-2015, 23:30
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I just don't see the point, I rather it be Max's if they was going to go this route, it leaves a sour taste, they pretty much just pissed over the still birth storyline.

And as for Stacey's character it was beyond unnecessary to do this again, I really wish she never come back and she one of my favourite characters but this plot is just a shambles..
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