Quite true, but I'm still giving him some kudos for appearing to be fairly grounded (until he proves otherwise and goes full woobie when Craig gives him a 4 and Len barks at him about the purity of DAHHNCE).

I too like this attitude - makes a change from the ones who work soooooo hard all week


Yep - this absolutely - it's all very well done technically but there's no joy in it - to be honest she always looks happier and more connected in training. Maybe she gets nervous on the night performing live, but would be surprising with her career pre-motherhood if she did?


Yep - Danny has reacted much better - think Nat may be playing slightly for the sympathy vote as she has realised that there are much better dancers and Greg can only develop so much.

Like people do on here... over any issue one might care to mention?

It's one's prerogative to like or dislike a person from what they have seen and they don't have to justify to anyone, specially people who never listen anyway.

Greg has said that he can be a prat, when frustrated and you are still going on about it.

As it happens, it wasn't you - or anything specific - I had in mind when I posted that comment. It was a general observation, aimed at nobody in particular but perhaps you do recognise that trait in yourself.

BIB - Ironic.

I too am a Nat fan but found this needyness and pleading very out of character . I guess we all have periods of it and maybe she is having a bad week .
It was in stark contrast to Danny and Otis " so be it " attitude . Danny was so right with his " a bad dance is not the end of the world , there are much worse things happening "
I have voted for Greg everyweek but if she keeps up the " woe is me " I might not

Purely since this is about the subject amongst many posts about it but

Do we know what Danny's or any other Celeb dancers of the years that were called ringers grades were at dance school, did they take dancing seriously? did they sit in class and snigger at the others? what kind of dancing do they teach at stage school? Not everyone is likely to learn to a high standard are they?

I mean they teach singing at places like that but not by any means all are any good and are likely to be ever cast in a musical are they?

I love this thread and don't want it closed, feel very sad for you that you have keep taking digs at people for no reason.

No I don't have that trait. Funny in your general observation you seem to have seen many, may be that is what you want to believe??.

Wins them! Started off thinking he was a bit of a himbo but definitely warming to him and his no nonsense partnership with Oti.

Ten years since Digger Dean wuz robbed on Masterchef and he still is top of my wuzrobbed t-shirt.
Proud face

Look. I was not having referring to anyone in particular. Just stop it and get a grip of yourself.

I'm putting you on ignore now so I don't have to read any more of this nonsense.

I can't watch Masterchef because of "that woman's" voice, so I don't know who Digger Dean is.

I think if she keeps this up he could be in trouble this week. He's been kept in mainly because of his character and trying. If they get annoying they will go.

I am not fan of Natalie's, but IMO, I think Natalie is reflecting Greg's mood. I have never seen Natalie go on about anything after the show, I think Greg is still disappointed and Natalie is just reflecting it.

She reacted straight away in the Claudatorium with " I feel sooo bad , I feel so guilty " etc .So I dont think its Greg thats at fault here to be honest .Yes he was disappointed but Nat has taken it up another level with her pleading .

Same. Danny has been a slow burn for me but I'm liking him more and more as a person and that really does help.

I also like Greg a lot but Nat needs to back off a bit with the 'advanced rhumba'. No one believes you!

No indeed but Danny (as with Louise and Natalie Gumede and Jill Halfpenny and etc etc) has fairly obviously been cast in this show because he can dance already. He's effectively "insurance" if all the plucky triers turn out to be Thom Evans. Not able to dance to pro standards obviously, but with enough confidence from the producers that someone can turn out a dance of decent quality most weeks from the start, to satisfy the proportion of the audience that want that.

These people are extensively auditioned - with Greg's revelation that they do proper try-outs of every genre before they even start, even more than even I thought they were - if they can dance from the off, the producers knew about it.

I was slightly put off Danny because of the VTs in the first couple of weeks, with him rolling around in frustration saying "I can't do this"... when quite clearly he could.

I totally accept that he's not had formal training in either Latin or ballroom and I'm not bothered if he's had any sort of rudimentary dance lessons at stage school or not. I'm not so keen though on someone pretending not to be able to do something that they so evidently can.

He's a pretty good dancer - but maybe not such a great actor, if these VTs are anything to go by.

As I said before I think Nat's a very experienced pro on this show, she knows how the audience vote, she knows what a contestant can get away with and what he can't. I wouldn't be surprised if she coaches Greg a little on how to appear in front of camera for Strictly. But if you go back and watch Greg's dances she has choreographed him perfectly. He has never been a good dancer, his foot work has always been diabolical, but she saw that straight away and has been throwing in lots of lovely lifts which he can do easily and lots of long posing in slower dances like that rumba. What she might be panicking about now, and so coming over a little to strong is that she sees that people are seeing through her smoke and mirrors of the last few weeks, Craig blew all that smoke away with his comments and I think people sat up and took notice. She is trying to do damage control the only way she knows how and hoping to get through another week. But I honestly think Greg has reached his 'plateau' as Len calls it.

Wonder if Greg and Nat are milking the 'hard done by' theme just a little too much? Maybe hoping to keep the sympathy vote topped up this week?

I've always been fine with Danny - he's not the most engaging interviewee, but then neither is Louise or Daisy or Ed or...well quite a few of them this series (to me). I'm glad he's moved beyond the "me nerves" stage of his Strictly cycle, because it was getting repetitive, but bland luvvie "well it beats working down a coal mine doesn't it darling" platitudes aren't exactly setting my world alight either.

All this. She's doing what any sane person would do and trying to get her partner as far as possible. Greg clearly tries very hard, but it's becoming more and more obvious that he is not a natural dancer. Given six months, she might well be able to work magic with him, but in the time she's got smoke and mirrors will have to do. What I most like about Natalie is her huge investment in her partners, but in this case she is looking a bit panicky and it makes me uncomfortable. VW should suit him much better and perhaps she can relax a bit. Can't see him leaving until after Blackpool regardless.

I never said she wasn't any of those things. She seems very pleasant.

But in the context of this show, she is beige. That means, for me, she stirs nothing in me at all.

Same here. Really like them as a couple. Loved Oti when she first joined, glad she has someone who has kept her in the show longer!

I like Louise and just want a little more emotion from her when she dances but if she gets that, I think she will really take hold with the viewers. Interestingly (or not) if you look at the bbc strictly dance comments she has a lot of fans.