I did notice a lot of cheering from the audience when Len said he would have saved Jamelia, which struck me as unusual at the time. Now it makes sense - the audience were clearly backing her and not Peter. If I was Peter I would be mortified that a producer had to fake a SO for me. I would so everything in my power to stop it, in fact.

I did notice quite a few of the audience remained sitting at the end of Peter's DO so clearly they were having none of it despite the "encouragement".

A very bad decision by the producer, I think. It has come back to bite him/her on the bum quite badly. I hope they learn from it. The viewing public are not fools and it would be wise to remember that.

The whole problem came after Peter just couldn't perform his routine well, or the routine was not good enough.
It can happen ti everyone.

So the producers chose good dancers and bad dancers so some of them can go out in the first half of the show and the others later, rather than similarly skilled dancers.
They just happened to coincide.
It would have been ok if Peter outdanced Jamelia but he didn't. Ehich is a shame because he is the better dancer.

What I find funny is why did the judges not tell that they see more potential in Peter for example. They just gave their decision so half heartedly it gave the impression that it's been scripted.
I don't think Peter will be able to win without serious backing from the judges. I even have doubts for the favourite Jay. He's perfectly capable to ruine his own chances and maybe get into Peter's situation.

^^^ perhaps judges did not want to do anything beyond what they were asked to do, well except Darcey.

As Tristan said, it is very much based on opinion so my take is that

Craig, Darcey and Bruno, as judges, should have "opined" that the dance off was very much a tie and in order to break it, they had to consider past performances.

Because they're not supposed to base their decision on that. It negates the reason for having a dance off at all if the result is pre-determined.

For me neither of their DO dances were that great. Jamelia definitely did hers better the first time round. I am probably a lone wolf in my opinion of whether Jamelia should have said what she did. If she felt it was a fix then she should have just come out and said that rather than just allude to it, she did the same on Loose Women today. She also said that it wasn't a reflection on Peter, well of course it is going to have repercussions for him and Janette. In fact it was perfect that it was Peter as it fitted in perfectly with 'Peter is a monster' scenario that people have created around him! Can you imagine the reaction if it had been Jay in Peters position and Jamelia had said the same thing - she would have been burnt at the stake!

I have to keep reminding myself that this is just a light entertainment show!

Great post brendans babe, I am indifferent to Peter but I have found myself sticking up for him after the way he has been treated on here.

Jamelia will live to regret what she has done, who will give a job to a blabbermouth?

I haven't seen anyone call Peter a monster - a bit of a berk, perhaps, but that is a different thing

Peter isn't a monster - he's just an arrogant twerp who has had his head turned by the unwarranted praise and high marks he's received since the first show.....

Despite saying repeatedly that he's listening to the judges, he doesn't actually seem to have taken on board the advice he's been given - probably thinking that he's actually deserved the high marks and placement.

His dancing has on the whole been pretty dire apart from the Charleston (and even that wasn't as good as they tried to say it was). He's not only heavy footed, he's flat footed, his shoulders are still up round his ears and his bum sticks out so far you could use it as a table! Why the judges do not pull him up on stuff so clearly visible is beyond a joke. Janette must be tearing her hair out with him.

Put together his pretty average (if not downright bad) dancing, and his oleaginous persona he's not clicked with diehard fans who after 12 years know what the dances should look like, and his own fan base aren't enough to save him. Let's face it if the millions of confirmed Daniel O Donnell fans couldn't save him - what chance does Peter smaller alleged fanbase have.

Given all the fuss - and it would be difficult for the producers to miss it - the judges are going to look pretty stupid again if they give him high marks despite numerous and obvious errors in his AS. Social media will go into meltdown if he's seen to get preferential treatment again!Dancing with all the other couples who delivered far superior quick steps will make it hard to justify marking him above ANY of them (despite their errors, you could see that Jay and Katie's quick steps would have been fabulous had they not had their mistakes) in the quickstepathon. Unless he's magically learned to do heel leads and pick his stomps feet up he's by far the worst ballroom dancer left so has an uphill battle this week

Well a lot of people are certainly treating him like he was a monster, Collins! One thing for sure is no matter who wins it will have no bearing on my life (and i guess no one elses on here either) - we will all still have to get up and go to work and pay our bills as always until next year when we will do it all again!

Exactly.

*strokes beard*

Only by Jay fans. I like to see fairness in a DO. Whoever dances better, should be saved. Otherwise, what's the point of the DO?

True

Imagine Jay had been saved in the DO and Peter had made an off-colour joke on ITT...

Like those sweets that have the wrong flavour.

True enough

I'm not a Peter fan (although I did feel sorry for him when he was married to you know who) but I can see that he is harmless albeit slightly deluded!!

As you say, we will all get on with our lives despite the result and hopefully be around to do it all again next year!!

I know Heavenly me too. We have often discussed on here the point of having a DO at all , that maybe it should just go down to the public vote and the one with the least votes each week leaves. But it is what it is and I'm sure there has been many a decision over the years that people have thought has gone the wrong way! It was only last week that people were shouting that Jeremy should have been saved over Jamelia - that the judges should take the hint that the public don't like her after being in the DO 4 times !

It will be interesting to see how Karen handles it tonight and if she will make any reference to it.

Why does Tess say every week to a judge:

"What can *insert name here* or just put Jamelia.......do to improve their chances of being in the competition next week?"

If there is no point?

I will be glued to ITT this week.

Karen Hardy
Ian Waite
Friday panel

Who will do a Jamelia?

You've got to be fair with these things, and you need to be consistent. I love Jeremy to bits and voted for him a few times, whereas I never voted for Jamelia - however I was quite happy that she knocked him out because, well, she danced far better on the night!

If a brilliant dancer ends up in the dance-off and has a 'mare, they should go, as much as that's a shame. Pixie last year did a passable cha-cha and got booted out, yet it was a hundred times better than Peter running around like a child on a suger high last weekend!

Same here - fair is fair

Well if her contract on Loose Women is up for renewal soon then I expect she'll be offered a good new one with a pay rise. 'Blabbermouth' is basically the job description!

Most people are firmly on Jamelia's side, not all obviously, but I think she will be just fine. Peter, on the other hand...

I think Tess is quite limited when it comes to presenting Strictly. Over the years she has had a collection of questions and one liners that she rotates each week about every contestant. When its scripted for her she's ok as she just has to read it but when she has to 'wing it' i think she can struggle a bit. Also when a presenter is on a show too long he/she gets stale. They couldn't get rid of Bruce until he decided to step down himself and not that i want to see Tess out of a job but i think Strictly could do with a new presenter, freshen things up a bit and perhaps a new judge - my choice would be to remove Bruno!

Just caught up with ITT.

Thought Jamelia & Tristan were very gracious

What the heck did Jay say about the dancing toddler. Did I hear that correctly. Very very strange.

Well, do did Bruce - e.g. "Dave Arch and his wonderful, wonderful orchestra". Couldn't he ever find anything else to say about them? He never introduced the singers either. And at least now we don't have to endure his lame jokes in addition to the dreadful VTs (I wasted far less time on Strictly back then, as I fast forwarded through half the show. Now the FF is limited to VT's, unless they're actually showing rehearsal footage).

I suggest you scroll back a few pages - it's already been re-hashed quite extensively!

That's ok if most people are on Jamelia's side. I happen to disagree with what she did.