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Ah yes the Kristina Rianoff School of Dance technique.. As Frank Skinner said she looks like she is dancing for two!
He has all the charisma of a bag of wet washing. |
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It looked to me like Aliona was doing all the dancing and Jay did not a lot.
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Well can I say it was a good impression of an AT.
I didn't dislike it. In fact the contrary. He did a clean performance of a very atmospheric dance, which I enjoyed . But It wasn't much of an AT in my view. |
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Bruno might have been more subdued tonight, but he spoke more rubbish than usual. I don't mind the other judges and thought Len finally remembered tonight that he was the judge with the technical knowledge (apart from the AT and Charleston natch), but Bruno is a waste of time. He rarely says anything useful these days.
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I don't mind him. But I would rather they didn't spread misinformation about gauchos on the pampas and all that twaddling, IT clearly has an impact or would seem to from the thngs viewers say about what they expect from an AT.
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Ah yes the Kristina Rianoff School of Dance technique.. As Frank Skinner said she looks like she is dancing for two!
To be fair to Kristina, she only did when she had a duffer - when she had Simon she put together some great choreography. Jay is supposed to be red hot favourite to win, yet Aliona did her darndest to keep him out of sight in that AT. It was absolutely OK by me though - she was terrific! |
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Well can I say it was a good impression of an AT.
I didn't dislike it. In fact the contrary. He did a clean performance of a very atmospheric dance, which I enjoyed . But It wasn't much of an AT in my view. |
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To be fair to Kristina, she only did when she had a duffer - when she had Simon she put together some great choreography.
Jay is supposed to be red hot favourite to win, yet Aliona did her darndest to keep him out of sight in that AT. It was absolutely OK by me though - she was terrific! |
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Bruno might have been more subdued tonight, but he spoke more rubbish than usual. I don't mind the other judges and thought Len finally remembered tonight that he was the judge with the technical knowledge (apart from the AT and Charleston natch), but Bruno is a waste of time. He rarely says anything useful these days.
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To be fair to Kristina, she only did when she had a duffer - when she had Simon she put together some great choreography.
Jay is supposed to be red hot favourite to win, yet Aliona did her darndest to keep him out of sight in that AT. It was absolutely OK by me though - she was terrific! But what I would say is that last year Simon and Kristina's AT seemed to show great chemistry between the 2 of them, and passion. Jay, on the other hand, looked to me as if he couldn't get the 'feel' of the dance. Almost as if he was too embarrassed to try and show the sort of chemistry & passion Simon & Kristina had. I realise he isn't an actor, so that side of dancing doesn't come easily to him, but Simon wasn't an actor either! |
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Probably his worst performance for me, but that is his high standards. A much needed kick up the backside if he thinks he has this in the bag !
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I don't dance AT so wouldn't want to comment on technique - good, bad, or lack of!
But what I would say is that last year Simon and Kristina's AT seemed to show great chemistry between the 2 of them, and passion. Jay, on the other hand, looked to me as if he couldn't get the 'feel' of the dance. Almost as if he was too embarrassed to try and show the sort of chemistry & passion Simon & Kristina had. I realise he isn't an actor, so that side of dancing doesn't come easily to him, but Simon wasn't an actor either! That being said, he does need to work on the "performance" side of things. Fingers crossed Aliona will pick it up this week |
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I don't dance AT so wouldn't want to comment on technique - good, bad, or lack of!
But what I would say is that last year Simon and Kristina's AT seemed to show great chemistry between the 2 of them, and passion. Jay, on the other hand, looked to me as if he couldn't get the 'feel' of the dance. Almost as if he was too embarrassed to try and show the sort of chemistry & passion Simon & Kristina had. I realise he isn't an actor, so that side of dancing doesn't come easily to him, but Simon wasn't an actor either! ![]() I don't think Jay is embarrassed, it's just that he's about as sexy as a stick of celery - a limp one at that.
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I'm with you there. I kept waiting for a proper kick, but there was only one, as Len (I think it was him) said. Seemed to be mostly posturing, minus the leg intertwining. Low on content. And there was little of the down-and-dirty "street" feel that an AT should have.
It's not down and dirty, it's not all about the ganchos. I'm no Argentine Tango expert, not like AT and Sofakat, but I've watched a fair few and there's massively more to the dance that Len's claim it should about sweaty men off the Pampas picking up ladies of the night or the assertion it should be full of kicks. |
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And there you have it summed up in one post all that's wrong about what viewers of SCD think an Argentine Tango should be.
It's not down and dirty, it's not all about the ganchos. I'm no Argentine Tango expert, not like AT and Sofakat, but I've watched a fair few and there's massively more to the dance that Len's claim it should about sweaty men off the Pampas picking up ladies of the night or the assertion it should be full of kicks. But what you say is right the public have been fed some very rhum misinformation about what to expect from an AT. Hey ho - its worse for salsa in my opinion.But for the record any lead (man) that kicks me intentionally during an AT is going to get his face very firmly slapped.
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len didn't actually mention the pampas or the ladies of the night or the other nonsense he sometimes goes on about AT.
jays was no better or worse in terms of content / choreography than many others, but he didn't perform it particularly well (a bit of the helen balletic feel to his legs and body stance - all wrong for the dance) and absolutely failed to deliver the mood. someone described it as having the feel of him delivering a parcel , and that perfectly sums up my feelings about him
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I don't dance AT so wouldn't want to comment on technique - good, bad, or lack of!
But what I would say is that last year Simon and Kristina's AT seemed to show great chemistry between the 2 of them, and passion. Jay, on the other hand, looked to me as if he couldn't get the 'feel' of the dance. Almost as if he was too embarrassed to try and show the sort of chemistry & passion Simon & Kristina had. I realise he isn't an actor, so that side of dancing doesn't come easily to him, but Simon wasn't an actor either! |
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I think Bruno"watch me go hyperbolic" Tony Oli meant 'his footwork was placed accurately'.
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But using a wholly wrong technique!
Thinking about it,laser guided missiles such as "mavericks" or "hellfires" (as opposed to laser guided freefall bombs) are usually fired at armoured vehicles,thus hitting the ground would mean inaccuracy. |
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len didn't actually mention the pampas or the ladies of the night or the other nonsense he sometimes goes on about AT.
jays was no better or worse in terms of content / choreography than many others, but he didn't perform it particularly well (a bit of the helen balletic feel to his legs and body stance - all wrong for the dance) and absolutely failed to deliver the mood. someone described it as having the feel of him delivering a parcel , and that perfectly sums up my feelings about him ![]() While Jay didn't "sell" the AT and struggled a bit with the walk which gives the dance its stylistic feel (where the feet hardly leave the floor except for the "special effect moves" like the ganchos, what he did produce was a dance which had plenty of AT steps in it. Quote:
I didn't see the passion or drama.
![]() The big "make a splash" ATs we've see on Strictly over the years bare little resemblance to the actual dance but are very much Argentine Tango Show dances so they make the audience gasp. |
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While Jay didn't "sell" the AT and struggled a bit with the walk which gives the dance its stylistic feel (where the feet hardly leave the floor except for the "special effect moves" like the ganchos, what he did produce was a dance which had plenty of AT steps in it.
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I didn't dislike it. In fact the contrary. He did a clean performance of a very atmospheric dance, which I enjoyed . But It wasn't much of an AT in my view.
