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Are the rumours getting to jay ?
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Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by backstageone:
“I just found out about another syndrome, it is called "the desperate house wives willies"
...and please do not put the words charismatic and Jay together, unless you suffer from "severe boredom syndrome" ”

You do not have to look very far to see how charasmatic and appealing people see Jay as being, plenty of info and vids in cyberspace that show this to be true. Maybe delusion is a condition that you are familiar with.
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe so but if the Jay supporters had ignored the post, it would have disappeared never to be heard of again.”

Yeah we could all just ignore what we disagree with, it would not leave much to debate though.
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Interestingly, the poster in question has previously claimed links to the show and access to insider information (hence, I presume, the 'backstage' element of their username).

Obviously this does not make their (by their own admission) 'uneducated' diagnosis any more excusable or feasible. And it might well be that their claims to insider access are pure fabrication, but it is possible that they have met Jay in the context of the show.

If true, it's a highly creative way of asking for your P45. The internet isn't nearly as anonymous as people like to think, and employees have got into trouble for a lot less on social media.”

I will take your last paragraph as a warning, and maybe an attempt to stop me from posting, I do not take well to manipulation and scare tactics, but you have the right to play detective all day long.
yellowlabbie
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Yeah we could all just ignore what we disagree with, it would not leave much to debate though.”

I agree but maybe this debate should have been left alone instead of some having a go at the poster.
dancingbearbear
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by backstageone:
“I will take your last paragraph as a warning, and maybe an attempt to stop me from posting, I do not take well to manipulation and scare tactics, but you have the right to play detective all day long.”

Why would you take it as a 'warning'? It's merely an observation based on cases in the media whereby employees have been reprimanded/disciplined for indiscretion on social media.

Post whatever you like. You're either connected to the show and are happy to drip information via the Internet, or you're not connected to the show at all and are making it up. Either way, it doesn't affect me.
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I agree but maybe this debate should have been left alone instead of some having a go at the poster.”

Or maybe the poster should have accepted how insensitve and plain wrong his post was And I do not really see that people are having a go at said poster but merely debating his dodgy opinion.
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Why would you take it as a 'warning'? It's merely an observation based on cases in the media whereby employees have been reprimanded/disciplined for indiscretion on social media.

Post whatever you like. You're either connected to the show and are happy to drip information via the Internet, or you're not connected to the show at all and are making it up. Either way, it doesn't affect me.”

I think that would be the latter.........imo
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Or maybe the poster should have accepted how insensitve and plain wrong his post was And I do not really see that people are having a go at said poster but merely debating his dodgy opinion.”

I understand, you just want me to retract my opinion because you disagree with it, Sorry, that is not how this works.
yellowlabbie
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Or maybe the poster should have accepted how insensitve and plain wrong his post was And I do not really see that people are having a go at said poster but merely debating his dodgy opinion.”

OK we will have to agree to disagree on this.
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“I think that would be the latter.........imo”

Exactly
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by backstageone:
“I understand, you just want me to retract my opinion because you disagree with it, Sorry, that is not how this works.”

Yes I realise this would be difficult, I disagree with the fact that you even felt the need to express such an opinion, it is not based on anything other than fancy and has no basis in fact.
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Why would you take it as a 'warning'? It's merely an observation based on cases in the media whereby employees have been reprimanded/disciplined for indiscretion on social media.

Post whatever you like. You're either connected to the show and are happy to drip information via the Internet, or you're not connected to the show at all and are making it up. Either way, it doesn't affect me.”

Thank you for clarifying, it is good to know that there was no intention to silence me on your part, it is just my opinion and nothing more.
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Yes I realise this would be difficult, I disagree with the fact that you even felt the need to express such an opinion, it is not based on anything other than fancy and has no basis in fact.”

Then you posses all the truth and we should only listen to you.
AngelJean
09-11-2015
I like Jay, He is a fantastic dancer. He does all the right things with his hands and feet. He applies himself to the dance and does the very best he can. The judges, by their own admission, are being picky and looking for more because they know he is capable of more.

All he needs to do is get a good acting coach to teach him the acting skills he lacks. I suspect he doesn't lack them at all but that he is placing all his concentration on getting the dance perfect.

I am not sure what these rumours are. I suspect they are just made up stories which are now sadly part of this programme, with the media starting stuff even before the programme is launched.

Look at the stories they printed about Georgia at the start but they have had to shut up when her boyfriend is regularly in the audience proudly cheering her on.

Finally, don't get me started on the 'syndrome'. How anyone can seriously make such a claim based on the brief chats he has on the show is a mystery to me. Anytime he has appeared on It Takes Two, he has appeared much more relaxed and full of fun.

If the person making this claim does work on the show as has been suggested, then shame on you for spreading ridiculous gossip.
primer
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“If they are an employee of the show, it's a highly creative way of asking for your P45. The internet isn't nearly as anonymous as people like to think, and employees have got into trouble for a lot less on social media. Imagine if it came to light that show insiders were posting faux-psychological diagnoses of current contestants on the Internet? Can't imagine they'd be too chuffed about it.”

it sure sounds like a warning to me.

ETA didn't you suggest someone should be sectioned for liking peter andre. or was it sterilised.
yellowlabbie
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“it sure sounds like a warning to me.”

Apparently it's called debating
primer
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Apparently it's called debating”

some people have so many faces they could go to group analysis all by themseves....
yellowlabbie
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“some people have so many faces they could go to group analysis all by themseves.... ”

Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“some people have so many faces they could go to group analysis all by themseves.... ”

Is there a label for that condition?
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Is there a label for that condition?”

yes, it is called "I don't have a life so I have many different log in names syndrome"
Lordsally
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by backstageone:
“I understand, you just want me to retract my opinion because you disagree with it, Sorry, that is not how this works.”

I think you're deliberately looking too much into what people are saying regarding your post. I originally suggested you amend it as it could be considered libellous. Others have, quite rightly, challenged your rationale for making your uneducated observation. You have counteracted by referring to your nephew, which did not address the challenges made. People will, in turn, challenge why you haven't answered the question.

You are now accusing some who have challenged you with scare tactics and claimed one would play detective to out you, when, in fact, they were politely advising you that no one is guaranteed anonymity on social media and that you may wish to reconsider your original allegation against Jay. Btw, I'm not a fan of Jay, I am a fan of SCD, so please don't call me a Jay fan.

In essence, by vocalising your thoughts and opinions on social media, you lay that very opinion open to scrutiny by fellow posters.

Personally, I think you are now attention seeking - no one is using scare tactics, no one is going to play detective. Yes, people have the right to an opinion, no disputes that, but equally, other people have the right to challenge what you have said.

Faux victim playing irritates me, and for that reason, I'm out.
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by backstageone:
“yes, it is called "I don't have a life so I have many different log in names syndrome" ”

Really!!! You do like to post assumptions about people you don't know. Twaddlemania perhaps.......................or just plain Bull.
Pices-55
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Lordsally:
“I think you're deliberately looking too much into what people are saying regarding your post. I originally suggested you amend it as it could be considered libellous. Others have, quite rightly, challenged your rationale for making your uneducated observation. You have counteracted by referring to your nephew, which did not address the challenges made. People will, in turn, challenge why you haven't answered the question.

You are now accusing some who have challenged you with scare tactics and claimed one would play detective to out you, when, in fact, they were politely advising you that no one is guaranteed anonymity on social media and that you may wish to reconsider your original allegation against Jay. Btw, I'm not a fan of Jay, I am a fan of SCD, so please don't call me a Jay fan.

In essence, by vocalising your thoughts and opinions on social media, you lay that very opinion open to scrutiny by fellow posters.

Personally, I think you are now attention seeking - no one is using scare tactics, no one is going to play detective. Yes, people have the right to an opinion, no disputes that, but equally, other people have the right to challenge what you have said.

Faux victim playing irritates me, and for that reason, I'm out.”



I think that is very sensible, I will take your lead.
Doghouse Riley
09-11-2015
It amuses me that some people are of the opinion that posting a denigrating and dismissive response to someone else's opinions, qualifies as "a debate."
backstageone
09-11-2015
Originally Posted by Lordsally:
“I think you're deliberately looking too much into what people are saying regarding your post. I originally suggested you amend it as it could be considered libellous. Others have, quite rightly, challenged your rationale for making your uneducated observation. You have counteracted by referring to your nephew, which did not address the challenges made. People will, in turn, challenge why you haven't answered the question.

You are now accusing some who have challenged you with scare tactics and claimed one would play detective to out you, when, in fact, they were politely advising you that no one is guaranteed anonymity on social media and that you may wish to reconsider your original allegation against Jay. Btw, I'm not a fan of Jay, I am a fan of SCD, so please don't call me a Jay fan.

In essence, by vocalising your thoughts and opinions on social media, you lay that very opinion open to scrutiny by fellow posters.

Personally, I think you are now attention seeking - no one is using scare tactics, no one is going to play detective. Yes, people have the right to an opinion, no disputes that, but equally, other people have the right to challenge what you have said.

Faux victim playing irritates me, and for that reason, I'm out.”

No attention seeking on my part or playing the victim, just replying to forum members with whom I disagree, but I guess you are out.
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