Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
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I think she's fab, an excellent dancer.
Head and shoulders above a lot of them
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I think she's fab, an excellent dancer.
Head and shoulders above a lot of them
”
Agree totally.
9s for virtually no content!
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Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
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Head and shoulders above a lot of them”
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Head and shoulders above a lot of them
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...but not literally
....seriously,in one of her dances as she was in hold,I thought VincentMark2 was a little tall for her and she looked a mite stretched.
Look, I'm not disputing Georgia as a good dancer. She is. But I'm disputing that dance which had too much faffing, no basic steps, and too much modern "look at me I'm young and sexy"
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!
I thought the leaderboard was roughly right apart from I'd have had Peter below Jay and Georgia
Georgia came out of some of those spins like Pamela Stephenson in her salsa
Jay lacked performance
Helen lacked any sort of hip movement
Anita lacked finesse
Kellie lacked posture
Jeremy lacked any ability to dance (but loved it
)
Carol lacked any sort of musicality or rhythm
Katie suffered from far too frenetic choreography
Jamelia was nice and sweet but forgettable again
And Peter? I'd better not start
Georgia came out of some of those spins like Pamela Stephenson in her salsa
Jay lacked performance
Helen lacked any sort of hip movement
Anita lacked finesse
Kellie lacked posture
Jeremy lacked any ability to dance (but loved it
)Carol lacked any sort of musicality or rhythm
Katie suffered from far too frenetic choreography
Jamelia was nice and sweet but forgettable again
And Peter? I'd better not start
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Look, I'm not disputing Georgia as a good dancer. She is. But I'm disputing that dance which had too much faffing, no basic steps, and too much modern "look at me I'm young and sexy"
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!”
“Look, I'm not disputing Georgia as a good dancer. She is. But I'm disputing that dance which had too much faffing, no basic steps, and too much modern "look at me I'm young and sexy"
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!”
How is Georgia supposed to stop those things being evident?
She can't help how old she is and her looks are beyond her control also...!
Originally Posted by SweetAngelx:
“How is Georgia supposed to stop those things being evident?
She can't help how old she is and her looks are beyond her control also...!”
“How is Georgia supposed to stop those things being evident?
She can't help how old she is and her looks are beyond her control also...!”
I mean the side strokes and body ripples as steps, not the fact that Georgia is young and good looking...
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“30 seconds sat down, a good 30 seconds shimmying. That's two thirds of the dance not "Pure Samba". The dancing she did do was good, but not nearly enough of it!”
“30 seconds sat down, a good 30 seconds shimmying. That's two thirds of the dance not "Pure Samba". The dancing she did do was good, but not nearly enough of it!”
But there was, at most, 15 seconds of shimmying/gyrating/whatever you want to call it (I've just watched it back to confirm), so I don't know where you've got 30 seconds from. I'm not arguing with you about the beginning, because I agree completely, but I reckon there was a lot more Samba content in there than you might have thought.
Originally Posted by KDee:
“Personally I think Georgia and Gio are way ahead of the rest”
“Personally I think Georgia and Gio are way ahead of the rest
”
As do I.
I do agree the faffing at the beginning went on a tad too long but that is the pro's decision to include these things so the fault (if it indeed a flaw worth noting
) lies with him.Georgia executed the steps with terrific skill and speed hence the crowd getting to their feet and applauding!
I truly hope she is in the final. If she continues to improve further still she certainly deserves to win from a dancing perspective.
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Look, I'm not disputing Georgia as a good dancer. She is. But I'm disputing that dance which had too much faffing, no basic steps, and too much modern "look at me I'm young and sexy"
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!”
“Look, I'm not disputing Georgia as a good dancer. She is. But I'm disputing that dance which had too much faffing, no basic steps, and too much modern "look at me I'm young and sexy"
Yes, Georgia's a good dancer. Yes, that was a dreadful Samba. Yes, the judges are inconsistent having marked Helen and Jay down for the same issues! Those three things are not mutually exclusive!”
Who did you think gave the worst Dance tonight,
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“Go on then, identify the Samba steps in that routine.
1) Samba walk
2) Promenade Runs
...
No botafogos, no voltas, just shimmying.”
“Go on then, identify the Samba steps in that routine.
1) Samba walk
2) Promenade Runs
...
No botafogos, no voltas, just shimmying.”
3) Criss-cross botafogos at 42 seconds in: http://youtu.be/RJA6_iVSj0o
4) Batucada at 49 seconds in: http://youtu.be/RJA6_iVSj0o
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“I saw botafogos and batucadas in there anyway”
“I saw botafogos and batucadas in there anyway”
So did I. Botafogos right at the beginning of the routine. Admit I did not like her batucadas much. She also had promenade runs and samba locks and stationary walks. Probably some other steps too, but I'd have to go back over the video. Enough content though in my view.
As for the absence of the samba roll, it isn't a mandatory step. I've never danced them in my routines.
Helen's routine however was low on content and had no hip action. Really really disappointed. Expected much better.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“So did I. Botafogos right at the beginning of the routine. Admit I did not like her batucadas much. She also had promenade runs and samba locks and stationary walks. Probably some other steps too, but I'd have to go back over the video. Enough content though in my view.
As for the absence of the samba roll, it isn't a mandatory step. I've never danced them in my routines.
Helen's routine however was low on content and had no hip action. Really really disappointed. Expected much better.”
“So did I. Botafogos right at the beginning of the routine. Admit I did not like her batucadas much. She also had promenade runs and samba locks and stationary walks. Probably some other steps too, but I'd have to go back over the video. Enough content though in my view.
As for the absence of the samba roll, it isn't a mandatory step. I've never danced them in my routines.
Helen's routine however was low on content and had no hip action. Really really disappointed. Expected much better.”
I agree the batucadas weren't great, but to say it had little to no content is just odd.
Always nice to see your comments, Ann!
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“How is Georgia second in the leaderboard? She wafted her skirt, did some promenade runs and a samba walk. Helen does no Rumba and gets marks knocked off, Jay gets pulled up for missing steps in his AT, but nation's sweetheart Georgia just shakes and shimmies and gets 9s!
I know I'm late to the party expected the judges scores to reflect the dance in front of them but it was blatant double standards tonight :/”
“How is Georgia second in the leaderboard? She wafted her skirt, did some promenade runs and a samba walk. Helen does no Rumba and gets marks knocked off, Jay gets pulled up for missing steps in his AT, but nation's sweetheart Georgia just shakes and shimmies and gets 9s!
I know I'm late to the party expected the judges scores to reflect the dance in front of them but it was blatant double standards tonight :/”
Georgia did samba and Jay did AT even if neither were perfect. Helen did a pretty dance but it was not rumba. Not by a long way.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“So did I. Botafogos right at the beginning of the routine. Admit I did not like her batucadas much. She also had promenade runs and samba locks and stationary walks. Probably some other steps too, but I'd have to go back over the video. Enough content though in my view.
As for the absence of the samba roll, it isn't a mandatory step. I've never danced them in my routines.
Helen's routine however was low on content and had no hip action. Really really disappointed. Expected much better.”
“So did I. Botafogos right at the beginning of the routine. Admit I did not like her batucadas much. She also had promenade runs and samba locks and stationary walks. Probably some other steps too, but I'd have to go back over the video. Enough content though in my view.
As for the absence of the samba roll, it isn't a mandatory step. I've never danced them in my routines.
Helen's routine however was low on content and had no hip action. Really really disappointed. Expected much better.”
And that is so obvious I am surprised it is being claimed otherwise.
Originally Posted by broadshoulder:
“Georgia bores me...
She was dull in Coronation Street”
“Georgia bores me...
She was dull in Coronation Street”
She was very pretty in Corrie...........but she couldn't act !
She can dance.........
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“I agree the batucadas weren't great, but to say it had little to no content is just odd.
Always nice to see your comments, Ann!”
“I agree the batucadas weren't great, but to say it had little to no content is just odd.
Always nice to see your comments, Ann!”
Thanks Nina
Quite liked it once it got going but by god did that take a long time. Don't know if it deserved 9s but it deserved to be 2nd.
Peter deserved 1st (but I hated it).
I think everybody was in the right place but it was my least favourite week yet (and following Halloween that's saying something).
Peter deserved 1st (but I hated it).
I think everybody was in the right place but it was my least favourite week yet (and following Halloween that's saying something).
Originally Posted by SweetAngelx:
“As do I.
I do agree the faffing at the beginning went on a tad too long but that is the pro's decision to include these things so the fault (if it indeed a flaw worth noting ) lies with him.”
“As do I.
I do agree the faffing at the beginning went on a tad too long but that is the pro's decision to include these things so the fault (if it indeed a flaw worth noting
) lies with him.”
The fault lies with the pro, but the score should still reflect this. Every moment of faffing about is one less piece of content, one less thing for the celeb to have to train, one less thing for them to remember, one less thing for them to potentially get wrong. Which of course is why the pro's do it, and equally why the couples should get penalised for it when they do.
Originally Posted by SweetAngelx:
“As do I.
I do agree the faffing at the beginning went on a tad too long but that is the pro's decision to include these things so the fault (if it indeed a flaw worth noting ) lies with him.
Georgia executed the steps with terrific skill and speed hence the crowd getting to their feet and applauding!
I truly hope she is in the final. If she continues to improve further still she certainly deserves to win from a dancing perspective.”
“As do I.
I do agree the faffing at the beginning went on a tad too long but that is the pro's decision to include these things so the fault (if it indeed a flaw worth noting
) lies with him.Georgia executed the steps with terrific skill and speed hence the crowd getting to their feet and applauding!
I truly hope she is in the final. If she continues to improve further still she certainly deserves to win from a dancing perspective.”
Agree a lot of faffing at the start but the speed they came out once the gates were opened just WOW.
Amazed she managed to keep up with Giovanni !
Originally Posted by RachelBlackburn:
“The fault lies with the pro, but the score should still reflect this. Every moment of faffing about is one less piece of content, one less thing for the celeb to have to train, one less thing for them to remember, one less thing for them to potentially get wrong. Which of course is why the pro's do it, and equally why the couples should get penalised for it when they do.”
“The fault lies with the pro, but the score should still reflect this. Every moment of faffing about is one less piece of content, one less thing for the celeb to have to train, one less thing for them to remember, one less thing for them to potentially get wrong. Which of course is why the pro's do it, and equally why the couples should get penalised for it when they do.”
Are you taking into account that Georgia's did actually have plenty of content, and it all was done at about twice the speed of everyone else's routines? A lot of room for error, and she handled it brilliantly.
Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“I mean the side strokes and body ripples as steps, not the fact that Georgia is young and good looking...”
“I mean the side strokes and body ripples as steps, not the fact that Georgia is young and good looking...”
Then why bring it up ?
She was terrific. Really loose and did very well to keep up with her pro most of the time . She deserved the praise heaped on her , no matter what her age and looks .
Georgia and Giovanni dance was significantly better than Jay & Aliona (Jay lacked content) and Helen & Aljaz (Helen just a little too static but some interesting leg movement).
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