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Tristan McManus not wearing a poppy- why?
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jcooper
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“Maybe if you had relations that have fought for your country you might give a a stuff...we would not be here today if it was not for them who laid there lives down for this country.”

Couldn't agree more, it is a sign of respect
Paace
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“They laid down there lives for freedom. Guess what freedom includes not having to wear a peice of red paper if you don't want to.”

Which includes freedom of choice .

Most people I saw in the supermarket were not wearing a poppy .
Moany Liza
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Precisely. End of discussion.”

Quite so.

I had wondered if the OP was on the wind-up... but perhaps they just don't realise the significance.
Becky245
07-11-2015
I'm Irish too and don't know if I would've worn one. I have relations who were killed fighting for Ireland's independence so I understand the significance of wearing a rose in Britain but if you're not British and he doesn't want to wear one, I don't see the problem?
roseblue1
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“They laid down there lives for freedom. Guess what freedom includes not having to wear a peice of red paper if you don't want to.”

No it shows lack of respect....for a few weeks each year it is not much to ask.
shrinkingviolet
07-11-2015
People who try and dictate to people about wearing a poppy do more harm than good. We don't live in a dictatorship so go have a talk with yourself if you watch TV hoping someone doesn't wear a poppy so you can feign outrage. People didn't die for that. It's a complete joke.

Tristan is Irish - if you're too stupid or blinkered to think that maybe he might not wear a poppy then you have more problems than what his personal beliefs might or might not be.
Moany Liza
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“No it shows lack of respect....for a few weeks each year it is not much to ask.”

No it doesn't. He is an Irishman - not British.
BeeBumble
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Which includes freedom of choice .

Most people I saw in the supermarket were not wearing a poppy .”

Read the rest of my post.
roseblue1
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by Becky245:
“I'm Irish too and don't know if I would've worn one. I have relations who were killed fighting for Ireland's independence so I understand the significance of wearing a rose in Britain but if you're not British and he doesn't want to wear one, I don't see the problem?”

It is a Poppy...
BeeBumble
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“No it shows lack of respect....for a few weeks each year it is not much to ask.”

I'm assuming you're just trolling now.
Sweetiecat
07-11-2015
He wasn't the only dancer not wearing one tonight, why single him out specifically?
SwanGirl
07-11-2015
I had a relative that died during WWI and an Uncle scarred mentally by WWII, I don't get offended if someone chooses not to wear a poppy. It's a personal choice.
TWS
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by alan29:
“He's Irish, not British.”

Indeed I'm British yet I've never worn one, why should I have to? It amazes me some people's attitudes towards the lack of a poppy. I always donate and get one yet never bother putting it on. I must admit I do like the addition of the wristbands and buy the kids one to wear.
J.R
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“Maybe if you had relations that have fought for your country you might give a a stuff...we would not be here today if it was not for them who laid there lives down for this country.”

I have relatives that fought - and died including my grandfather but I am not offended by him not wearing one. Tristan is Irish anyway which is a whole different thing.
MarellaK
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by jcooper:
“Couldn't agree more, it is a sign of respect”

We don't do poppies in Ireland. It's nothing to do with a lack of respect, it's a British thing. I've never worn a poppy myself (Irish living in Britain) but it doesn't mean I don't respect the people who fought for this country. However, 'this' country is not Tristan's native country - he's Irish, not British and people should respect the difference.
Monaogg
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“No it shows lack of respect....for a few weeks each year it is not much to ask.”

For goodness sake he is Irish. How dare you demand respect from someone just because they are on TV without a thought to how they may feel about things.
Moany Liza
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by Sweetiecat:
“He wasn't the only dancer not wearing one tonight, why single him out specifically?”

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see Janette wearing one either. It didn't really matter to me. I can see that for some dances it might actually be a hazard to wear one.
artlesschaos
07-11-2015
Put this on the other thread, by the same poster...

Firstly, he is from Ireland, poppies are a British tradition.

Secondly, he doesn't have to because we have freedom of thought, people died for us to retain freedom of thought. Demanding that people conform to your will is actually far more disrespectful.

It's like forcing people to think in one way, or wear a star to represent their faith...and no one wants that, do they?
roseblue1
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by Moany Liza:
“No it doesn't. He is an Irishman - not British.”

Have you never done history at school...WW1 thousands of Irish died fighting for Britain.

Ireland was part of Britain in 1914 -1918.
roseblue1
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by artlesschaos:
“Put this on the other thread, by the same poster...

Firstly, he is from Ireland, poppies are a British tradition.

Secondly, he doesn't have to because we have freedom of thought, people died for us to retain freedom of thought. Demanding that people conform to your will is actually far more disrespectful.

It's like forcing people to think in one way, or wear a star to represent their faith...and no one wants that, do they?”

Very easy to say when you are alive and free...
harmon-whitecar
07-11-2015
The tyranny of the poppy. Will it ever end?
The Brain
07-11-2015
My late father fought in World War II. He liked to wear a poppy, but wouldn't chastise anyone for not doing so. But then, since he fought against dictatorial fascists, this is quite understandable.
DeltaBlues
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“Millions of men and women died in two World Wars to keep us free...if you cannot just show some respect by wearing a poppy for one evening then I think he lacks respect.”

It's not much of a mark of respect if someone is forced or bullied into something that should be a personal choice.

Ireland was neutral in WWII and there was no conscription in Ireland during WWI. Some Irishmen chose to join up, but many didn't. And as others have said, the British armed forces are a sensitive subject in many parts of the Republic and NI.

He chose not to wear a poppy, he didn't grind one under the heels of their VW.
roseblue1
07-11-2015
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“For goodness sake he is Irish. How dare you demand respect from someone just because they are on TV without a thought to how they may feel about things. ”

Another who does not know there history....and do NOT dare me.
Camis
07-11-2015
Was it really necessary to start two threads on the same subject? Why not just add on to the one that was started when he didn't wear a poppy on ITT?

Anyway, it's his decision to make - not the decision of a TV producer or anyone else. Nothing to do with respect or not. People are free to choose.

(I notice no-one was jumping up and down when Zoe, Brendan and Kirsty weren't wearing poppies on Monday's ITT?)
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