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4th impact struggling with a traditional British song
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DUNDEEBOY
08-11-2015
So far they have formed okay with American songs and their one dance routine.

Sound of the underground is a very British song and a very different key to what they are comfortable with.

I was also surprised being a girl group they didn't know it.

The songs they perform are all very American and this performance was a surprising train wreck
xTonix
08-11-2015
I really like 4th Impact, but last night they were terrible, it was such a shame, still, overall, imo they are one of the best acts there.
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“So far they have formed okay with American songs and their one dance routine.

Sound of the underground is a very British song and a very different key to what they are comfortable with.

I was also surprised being a girl group they didn't know it.

The songs they perform are all very American and this performance was a surprising train wreck”

really ?

can you explain the difference between a typical british girl band song and an american one ?
suniil
08-11-2015
Haven't you heard their practice sessions? It sounds amazing, harmonies in particular. But in live, their vocal mics were set to very (very!) low gain settings, resulting an overpowered low quality backing track. Re-watch on youtube, you will see they were trying hard to get their sounds heard! I felt sorry for them.

Originally Posted by xTonix:
“I really like 4th Impact, but last night they were terrible, it was such a shame, still, overall, imo they are one of the best acts there.”

mgvsmith
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“really ?

can you explain the difference between a typical british girl band song and an american one ?”

I'm not sure about typical anything but the difference here is that early Girls Aloud songs had a strong rock element in their music (there were plenty of guitars). That seemed to really throw 4th Impact.

British female vocal groups like The Spice Girls, Girls Aloud and maybe even Sugababes have a strong pop and rock influence, US female vocal groups like TLC, En Vogue, Destiny's Child and 5th Harmony have a stronger R&B influence in their music.

For me 4th Impact are soulless,
sgeandhu
08-11-2015
It was awful.

They were found out big time.

Once you've seen them once you don't need to see them again they are that predictable.
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“I'm not sure about typical anything but the difference here is that early Girls Aloud songs had a strong rock element in their music (there were plenty of guitars). That seemed to really throw 4th Impact.

British female vocal groups like The Spice Girls, Girls Aloud and maybe even Sugababes have a strong pop and rock influence, US female vocal groups like TLC, En Vogue, Destiny's Child and 5th Harmony have a stronger R&B influence in their music.

For me 4th Impact are soulless,”

i dont think "sound of the underground" was something that should have thrown them just because it is by a "british group" , its a stereotypical girl band song and if we have reached the point of saying acts are so limited that this sort of difference in song choices means they cannot cope then they should all just go home
big bang theory
08-11-2015
They was very off vocally, they was just lucky that others sounded worse.
mgvsmith
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“i dont think "sound of the underground" was something that should have thrown them just because it is by a "british group" , its a stereotypical girl band song and if we have reached the point of saying acts are so limited that this sort of difference in song choices means they cannot cope then they should all just go home”

'Sound of the Underground' has a very distinct sound (metallic and surfy) and it's a seminal song from the 00s. It wasn't released in the US. And along with the Sugababe's 'Round, Round' and 'Freak Like Me' is credited wth helping to reshape British pop music. So it is not a stereotypical girl band song at all. You need to get up to speed on your modern British pop music.

And it threw 4th Impact.
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“'Sound of the Underground' has a very distinct sound (metallic and surfy) and it's a seminal song from the 00s. It wasn't released in the US. And along with the Sugababe's 'Round, Round' and 'Freak Like Me' is credited wth helping to reshape British pop music. So it is not a stereotypical girl band song at all. You need to get up to speed on your modern British pop music.

And it threw 4th Impact.”

sorry but thats grasping at straws , and i am quite up to date with my modern music thank you , altho girl bands are not something i pay much attention to

i repeat if an act is so limited that a song choice like this throws them then it doesn't say alot about their ability, its not as if girls aloud were musical genuises was it
contrarian
08-11-2015
started bad but got good

that GA song is utter sh1t anyway so they could not make it better


should have done chemistry
CelticMyth
08-11-2015
Cheryl (and the show for that matter) couldn't care less about 4th Impact. Thrown on early with a rubbish arrangement and lukewarm comments while slobbering all over Reggie n Bollie every week.
mgvsmith
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“sorry but thats grasping at straws , and i am quite up to date with my modern music thank you , altho girl bands are not something i pay much attention to

i repeat if an act is so limited that a song choice like this throws them then it doesn't say alot about their ability, its not as if girls aloud were musical genuises was it”

Clearly you are not up to date if you describe 'Sound of the Undetground' as a stereotypical girl group song when it is clearly not that. It isn't a traditional British pop song either.

Xenomania were behind Girls Aloud so it was a collaborative thing. 'Biology' is another great example of innovation and distinction In GA's music. And GA if not geniuses were very influential and a bit different. I preferred Sugababes myself. And again if you knew about the history of British Pop music you would know that there have always been differences between UK and US pop music.

What's the problem with 4th Impact just being a bit rubbish?
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“Clearly you are not up to date if you describe 'Sound of the Undetground' as a stereotypical girl group song when it is clearly not that.

Xenomania were behind Girls Aloud so it was a collaborative thing. 'Biology' is another great example of innovation and distinction In GA's music. And GA if not geniuses were very influential and a bit different. I preferred Sugababes myself. And again if you knew about the history of British Pop music you would know that there have always been differences between UK and US pop music.

What's the problem with 4th Impact just being a bit rubbish?”

to me it is a stereotypical girl band song , as i said i dont pay alot of attention to girl bands

i repeat once more , if they struggle with a song that girls aloud made successful it does not say alot about their ability , its not like they were being asked to sing metallica

your BiB is exactly what i have been saying btw ...
mgvsmith
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“to me it is a stereotypical girl band song , as i said i dont pay alot of attention to girl bands

i repeat once more , if they struggle with a song that girls aloud made successful it does not say alot about their ability , its not like they were being asked to sing metallica”

Baby Metal do some good Metal music, so it is possible. A 'Metal' theme would be great. Symphonic metal would suit Seann or Louisa or Monica even.

'Sound of the Underground' clearly was outside of 4th Impact's comfort zone.
I don't think 4th Impact have much ability, it's all hype from XF producers.

In fact listening to all the 'artists' last night, I don't think there is much talent there at all.
Reggie and Bollie?
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“Baby Metal do some good Metal music, so it is possible. A 'Metal' theme would be great. Symphonic metal would suit Seann or Louisa or Monica even.

'Sound of the Underground' clearly was outside of 4th Impact's comfort zone.
I don't think 4th Impact have much ability, it's all hype from XF producers.

In fact listening to all the 'artists' last night, I don't think there is much talent there at all.
Reggie and Bollie?”

thats my main gripe about this show , we get so many one-trick ponies that you take them a hairs breadth outside their "comfort zone" and they struggle but instead of some posters just acknowledging that limitation its always the songs fault

i dont expect acts to be able to sing multiple genres but i do expect them to be able to sing a variety of styles within their chosen genre and still do it justice
EvilLlamaThingy
08-11-2015
Going to say what I said on the discussion thread yesterday. Whoever is in charge of changing the keys for songs to be performed on X Factor needs to be fired and banned from involvement in music ever again. It wasn't even just 4th Impact who suffered from crap key changes either, though I think they got the worst of it.
james_von05
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“thats my main gripe about this show , we get so many one-trick ponies that you take them a hairs breadth outside their "comfort zone" and they struggle but instead of some posters just acknowledging that limitation its always the songs fault

i dont expect acts to be able to sing multiple genres but i do expect them to be able to sing a variety of styles within their chosen genre and still do it justice”

Are you calling 4th Impact one trick pony?? When did you start watching? Or shall I ask you what is your definition of one trick pony?
MysteriousOz
08-11-2015
I didn't think they were bad, although the beginning was a bit off but in the chorus they sounded great

Thankfully they have such good voices they pulled it off
Adrian_Ward1
08-11-2015
I didn't feel it was their strongest performance
james_von05
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“I didn't think they were bad, although the beginning was a bit off but in the chorus they sounded great

Thankfully they have such good voices they pulled it off”

I actually agree with you... but over all better than half of the acts...
But I still don't get how some posters here call them one trick pony... it's week 2 and they undergone numerous of audition stages, I am sure they have sung different song and they call them one trick pony?
mimik1uk
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“Are you calling 4th Impact one trick pony?? When did you start watching? Or shall I ask you what is your definition of one trick pony?”

and they aint very good at the one trick they do have
sgeandhu
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“Are you calling 4th Impact one trick pony?? When did you start watching? Or shall I ask you what is your definition of one trick pony?”

They are though.

Very formulaic - see them once you think they are great - see them again and you think - hmm I've seen this before.

The question you have to ask is - would you watch and listen to a whole gig or album?

My answer would be a resounding NO.
james_von05
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by sgeandhu:
“They are though.

Very formulaic - see them once you think they are great - see them again and you think - hmm I've seen this before.

The question you have to ask is - would you watch and listen to a whole gig or album?

My answer would be a resounding NO.”

Well that is your opinion like I wouldn't go to concert like of 1D...
if 4th impact produce a good song/album in the future yea will buy it.
xTonix
08-11-2015
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“I didn't feel it was their strongest performance”

I agree, they should of sung Bang Bang, instead of Anton.
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