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Old 10-11-2015, 11:15
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I do not like the Ken/Nessa situation purely because I don't like the Nessa character.

She came into the street, set eyes on Ken and, when Ken said Audrey wasn't his wife, decided immediately she'd have him .

Last night when he said he was concerned at what people were thinking, she was more concerned about herself than seeing it from his point of view, when she said "What about what I want?" She strikes me as being selfish, and Cathy said she's man mad. It's natural for Tracey not to be happy with the situation - she lived with her mother and father and now another woman is intruding.

I don't think anyone would mind if he became closer to Audrey because they've known each other for years. Audrey was also a friend of Deirdre and has known Tracey for most of her life. Nessa has swooped in, and I bet she's living with Ken within a couple of weeks.

I've seen it happen in real life where a widower has taken up with a new female friend within a few months of being bereaved, and there's nothing wrong with that. But problems arose because nobody knew her and his friends were concerned about her motives. She took over his life and isolated him from his friends, then dumped him when she took a shine to someone else. He was then a very lonely man. Fortunately his original friends welcomed him back.

I hope the character doesn't stay for long.
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:29
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Tracyluv put it perfectly last night: 'Nessie' is a "hearse-chasing old slapper".
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:51
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Tracey came out with what we'd all been thinking, I would have hoped William Roache would have been asked before, they gave him this storyline.
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:04
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I don't mind Nessa, in fact I find her desperate pursuit of Ken quite funny. He's an OAP, about 20/ 30 years older than her, living in a poky ancient house with a load of other people, hardly a catch. Don't think she'll be around long, anyway, as it's obvious he's going to be paired with Audrey, who is just as man mad as Nessa IMO, the way she started chucking herself at Ken just a few months are Deirdre died. She's known him for years and years, but now that his wife has just died, she is crying in the pub toilets and saying to Rita that she has "fallen" for him.
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:08
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It's clearly a device to get the residents and viewers to come round to the idea of Ken being with someone else. Initially people are unhappy and think it's disrespectful, but all of that's played out and eventually people get used to it.

Nessa will then disappear when Audrey steps in after a very brief love triangle. People will be more supportive of Kaudrey as a result, less backlash.
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:26
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Well Tracey doesn't voice my opinion and I found her 'moralising' quite sickening. She wants to tell Ken what respectful while having it away with an ex on the day her precious Mum's funeral? On her precious Mam's couch? She's obviously forgotten already why her precious Mam died alone. What happened to her trying to be a better person rather than the snidey commenting "what about me?"/"why aren't you on my side?" brat-fink who has done so many horrible things? Either she or the script writers forgot about that. I'm glad she was told what's what in Ken's house. If she doesn't like it she should move out rather than move anyone she's "doing", in. Nesta is annoying but she's a plot device so I don't really care about her.

Tracey Barlow. Moralising. That is an irony! LOL
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:44
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I thought Tracey's cruel, cutting comments to Nessa really nasty, she doesn't know anything about the woman, has she even met her before? Can understand her being annoyed with Ken for taking up with another woman so quickly, but what right has she to say things like that to someone in his house. Why are her and Robert still living there, anyway?
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Old 10-11-2015, 13:46
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It's clearly a device to get the residents and viewers to come round to the idea of Ken being with someone else. Initially people are unhappy and think it's disrespectful, but all of that's played out and eventually people get used to it.

Nessa will then disappear when Audrey steps in after a very brief love triangle. People will be more supportive of Kaudrey as a result, less backlash.
Yes, that is exactly what it is - not only for the characters but viewers too. The theory will be that a Ken/Audrey relationship won't have as much backlash as if they'd jumped straight into it as we've seen how much worse it was with somebody else. Also, Audrey isn't being heartless or disrespectful in telling Ken how she feels because she is actually 'saving' him from somebody completely unsuitable that wouldn't be at all sensitive to Deardre's memory or the feelings of her friends and family.
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Old 10-11-2015, 14:13
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I think as Deirdre was off screen for an awfully long time it seems like more than 6 months so not so heartless to be seeing another woman already but Nessa is a dreadful character. She's quite obviously some sort of man mad pension grabber with bad hair. What made me chortle was Ken saying something about Deirdre being innocent or blameless or something completely forgetting Mike Baldwin, her one nighter with Dev and her flirt with the pot making fella. I've probably forgotten most of what she got up to.
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Old 10-11-2015, 15:10
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I thought Tracey's cruel, cutting comments to Nessa really nasty, she doesn't know anything about the woman, has she even met her before? Can understand her being annoyed with Ken for taking up with another woman so quickly, but what right has she to say things like that to someone in his house. Why are her and Robert still living there, anyway?
Ken needs to boot Tracy out. If she has such a problem she should just bugger off. Sick of her acting the doting daughter when she caused Deirdre just as much stress over the years.
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:15
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Ken needs to boot Tracy out. If she has such a problem she should just bugger off. Sick of her acting the doting daughter when she caused Deirdre just as much stress over the years.
As I said, I have no problem with Ken having a female companion, even Audrey or even if he went in search of Martha on her canal boat. It would be his choice. The way Nessa is acting, she's making the running and he has no say.

Roy's moved on from Hayley successfully through a natural development of friendship between him and Cathy..

But the Nessa character is just so pushy. Walked into the Rovers holding on to Ken's arm and kissed him on his cheek so the other could see she was laying claim, Called at his house. Got him to take her for a meal and for drinks. So she bought him a jumper - small payment for what she's doing. She also pushed her way into the hairdresser's and started acting as if she was in charge.

And Tracey isn't the only one concerned about herself - Nessa said "What about what want?" when Ken said his friends weren't happy. She knows nothing about him or his friends, but she's not concerned about anyone but herself.
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:25
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I don't the SL because why would a woman her age want a shrivelled old fart like Ken Barlow?
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:38
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I'm not sure I'd say Ken has 'no choice' about starting a romance with Nessa. Yes, she is very, very forward and provocative but he is very capable of saying no to her advances. It's not even as if he needs to worry that much about hurting her feelings as he might with somebody he'd known longer like Audrey as he owes her nothing as they've just met.

A lot of posters were complaining about him moving on with indecent haste with Audrey as their friendship developed both before and after Deardre's death but this is a way of making it more palatable. Nessa is here as a catalyst for that romance - nothing else.

To my mind, it was always inevitable that Ken would become involved with somebody else fairly quickly. He is not a man used to being alone, he doesn't seem to like not having a female companion. And it isn't the first time he has had to move on from the death of a wife. It was always going to happen quicker than Roy who has always been a loner, is used to (and coMfortable) with his own company and had a once in a lifetime connection with Hayley. They were smart to wait approx 18 months before introducing Kathy and then having it develop fairly naturally via friendship, indeed it mainly still is friendship i'd say albeit a very close one with an 'understanding'.

Nessa is fairly awful but i'd say she has been specifically designed that way - she isn't supposed to be liked by the Audience, we're meant to think she is wrong for Ken and the relationship is a mistake. Then, as i say, we'll be more inclined to accept it when ken moves on with Audrey than we would have been if they'd gone straight into that romance.
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Old 10-11-2015, 19:42
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Ken needs to boot Tracy out. If she has such a problem she should just bugger off. Sick of her acting the doting daughter when she caused Deirdre just as much stress over the years.
Well said.

Same to ayrshire lass.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:03
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Nessa reminds me of a Little Britian character, or maybe it is one of Catherine Tate's characters actually......Bernie the nurse I think.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:31
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I really cannot see what Ken sees in Nessa. They're not in the least bit suited either.

I can only imagine that he's blinded by grief and grateful for a bit of attention.
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Old 11-11-2015, 00:01
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I really cannot see what Ken sees in Nessa. They're not in the least bit suited either.

I can only imagine that he's blinded by grief and grateful for a bit of attention.
She's no great beauty, but she's a pleasant enough looking woman who's about 30 years younger than him, and she's all over him like a rash, and you wonder what he sees in her?
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Old 11-11-2015, 09:38
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I don't the SL because why would a woman her age want a shrivelled old fart like Ken Barlow?
You've obviously not heard the expression "I'd rather be an old man's darling than a younger man's slave."

I know a few women who have that philosophy.
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