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I thought it reviewed quite well? and plenty of people on twitter and other forums say the game is excellent. It was always going to suffer because of the timing. Fallout 4 last week and Battlefront this week, as someone said on here before, they would have been better releasing this in September.
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People talk like MS are the only ones that do this, but Sony does the same thing. It's just business and trying to get more people buy their consoles.
Personally not a fan of these deals. When I lose out on content I feel hard done by and when a deal favours the system I use I just don't notice. With the quality of extra content I have seen and played it wouldn't in any way influence me buy the other system or the game on a different system to what I had planned. If I was a COD fan I would buy the game on the system my friends were playing on, not the system which got a map pack first. For me it seems a colossal waste of money on Sony and MS' part. I would love to play TR sooner rather than later but I am not buying an XB1 to play it. I have plenty of other games to keep me occupied until it finally arrives on PS4. |
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I thought it reviewed quite well? and plenty of people on twitter and other forums say the game is excellent.
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Yes, that's why it would be unfair if CD or SE decided to scrap the ip purely on the basis of sales. And, regardless of Fallout, I don't think anyone anticipated that the sales figures would be so low.
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The PR around the reveal was ludicrous. I don't think that will have affected sales, but it did make MS look like dicks again after they'd worked so hard to drag their image back out of the gutter.
As for what MS got out of it, I think they were spooked by Uncharted 4 (which was originally slated for 2015) and wanted an adventuring exclusive of their own to put up against it. As it turns out the needn't have bothered. It has strengthened their Christmas line-up, but it seem that not many people are bothered so far. Perhaps the Xbox One Tomb Raider bundle will keep the game in the charts over the coming weeks. |
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If I was a COD fan I would buy the game on the system my friends were playing on, not the system which got a map pack first. For me it seems a colossal waste of money on Sony and MS' part.
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I want to play it but can't afford Xbox One when I already got a PS4.. hate these exclusives when the console costs so much to buy.
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I want to play it but can't afford Xbox One when I already got a PS4.. hate these exclusives when the console costs so much to buy.
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We have no idea if Sony approached Activision or if it was the other way around. It is entirely possible that Activision refused to renew a deal with MS based on the widening sales gulf between the two consoles and the better than PS2 numbers that the PS4 is achieving.
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I doubt Activision offered Sony that deal for free. Sony will have paid for the deal, pointlessly as far as I am concerned.
From what I've heard, BO3 seemes to be the best COD for quite a while so maybe the deal will be worth it as word of mouth spreads and BO3 will be in the top 10 or 20 for sales over the next 10 months. |
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With games such as COD and Assassin's Creed: Syndicate, the exclusive content that the PS4 has had is usually DLC type stuff (extra side quests, maps, weapons etc) With RotTR, this was a full game.
I think a lot of people have hit it on the head that MS was spooked with Uncharted 4 scheduled for release at the end of this year. So threw a chunk of change to get this timed exclusive I get that there are exclusives on both consoles, but the norm is usually titles from a new IP (The Last of Us, Uncharted, Halo, The Order 1886) Consumers get annoyed when its an IP they probably have played on their preferred console only for it to be closed of to them. I'm talking as PS and Tomb Raider fan. Was I annoyed that RotTR was an Xbox exclsuive? Yes, but I knew that I had Unchartered 4 to look forward to. I think that CD, depending on the finances etc, may now realise that it was fools folly to have MS as the exclusive first run. I think MS may also see that this may not have paid off as they wanted. I do hope its not the end of the franhise as I really liked Tomb Raider and will probably pick up this when it is released next year. (Providing that there is no sequel to The Last of Us out at the Same time) |
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shame its not selling well,dont think the original did either?
i loved the first one on 360 and will pick this up next year on the ps4 |
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shame its not selling well,dont think the original did either?
i loved the first one on 360 and will pick this up next year on the ps4 |
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I think the reboot did pretty well, or so I remember. I think the release of Fallout 4 may have also hit sales.
must want to make money on this one though, i hope MS paid alot because limiting sales seems a silly idea |
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i am sure i read an interview with makers 2 years ago where they said TR was a critical hit but not commerical, they said that wa sok for a reboot first isntallment
must want to make money on this one though, i hope MS paid alot because limiting sales seems a silly idea |
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It sold 3.4 million in it's first month, and up to now has sold 8.5 million (according to PC gamer). That's including definitive edition. It was Square Enix that said it was disappointed with the sales, which makes me wonder what on earth they expected it to sell if that was a disappointment. That is the reason i'm so concerned over the sales of this one.
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They said at the time that they were expecting COD numbers.
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From what I've heard, BO3 seemes to be the best COD for quite a while so maybe the deal will be worth it as word of mouth spreads and BO3 will be in the top 10 or 20 for sales over the next 10 months.
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Really? From what I've heard, Black Ops III is awful...
![]() I mean that series has set the bar pretty low. |
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Square Enix don't care about the sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider because they made their money through the exclusive with X Box. That is why they're more than happy to release it alongside Fallout and COD.
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Square Enix don't care about the sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider because they made their money through the exclusive with X Box. That is why they're more than happy to release it alongside Fallout and COD.
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MS will care, as they published the game. Think about this: MS would have paid SE a percentage to cover lost sales through exclusivity; either they expected the game to do well, or they expected the game to do badly and paid them accordingly. Either way, how has this worked out well for MS ?
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It's a shame this isn't selling well as it's my pick for Game of the Year by an absolute landslide.
But the reasons for not selling well were obvious and it's entirely Squre Enix's fault that their ego led them to believe that their game (which was a console exclusive) would do just as well if not better than Fallout 4 which released the exact same day. I mean I much prefer this type of game to Fallout but even I know Fallout was by far and away the most hyped game this year, even beating out CoD and Battlefront. |
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Bit of a downer to hear about low sales for this game. Not sure if it's because of timing and the XB1 exclusive being the reasons. I loved the reboot and I'll definitely be picking this up when it eventually releases for PC. Would hate to see this being scrapped. It's Tomb Raider for crying out loud. Why is it selling so poorly?
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Why is it selling so poorly?
![]() ![]() Not to mention, that for those who were aware of both releases, Fallout 4 was still the most talked about prior to launch by an absolute mile, so most people would likely have picked up Fallout if they had to choose one over the other due to their friends also likely wanting to play Fallout. And then the fact that there was no PC or PS4 launch obviously took a massive chunk out of the sales as well, especially when you consider that Xbox One has the smallest consumer base out of all 3 of those platforms. It really was that pairing of publisher choices from Square Enix that moreorless doomed this until the inevitable PS4 and PC release. I don't think this will be the last of this franchise, surely even they have to know that it's not because of game quality that this game sold poorly. |
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