Jay hands down. Janette was awesome in that dance and dragged it up. Although it was , of course, very good.
Results:B.O.T.H: Who wins???
Jay & Aliona (Jive)
303 (92.66%)
Peter & Janette (Charleston)
24 (7.34%)
Voters: 327. You can't vote on this poll right now - are you signed in?
BATTLE OF THE HEAVYWEIGHTS: Jay & Aliona Jive vs Peter & Janette Charleston
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Originally Posted by jiroos:
“I think you meant to say "more trained".
"Naturally gifted"??? Do me a favour!!! I suppose Strictly bosses just happened to go for the least-known/popular member of The Wanted for no apparent reason???
Or could it have been something to do with the Youtube videos we've ALL watched...???!
"Naturally gifted dancer" yet he became a singer?? Makes sense....
”
“I think you meant to say "more trained".
"Naturally gifted"??? Do me a favour!!! I suppose Strictly bosses just happened to go for the least-known/popular member of The Wanted for no apparent reason???
Or could it have been something to do with the Youtube videos we've ALL watched...???!
"Naturally gifted dancer" yet he became a singer?? Makes sense....
”
@ your outraged ???!!??!!! >:
(
I seem to have hit a sore spot. My apologies. The fact is though, no amount of training can make make someone look effortlessly graceful and elegant on the dancefloor.
As for your argument that Jay becoming a singer somehow means that he can't be a gifted dancer, surely that alone would suggest that he had no idea that he had dancing feet?
i don't think they can really be compared directly. jay is obviously a better technician, but peter's charleston was pretty good and genuinely engaging. its not all about the execution.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Bit of a pointless thread when jay only has to push his bottom lip out like a toddler wanting a biccy for the ovaries to ping all across the threads in a mass nurturing glow visible from outer space”
“Bit of a pointless thread when jay only has to push his bottom lip out like a toddler wanting a biccy for the ovaries to ping all across the threads in a mass nurturing glow visible from outer space
”
Inaccurate and fanciful...........................but funny.
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“ @ your outraged ???!!??!!! >:( I seem to have hit a sore spot. My apologies. ”
“
@ your outraged ???!!??!!! >:( I seem to have hit a sore spot. My apologies. ”
No apology needed - except for if you are apologising for giving me a near hernia laughing?!
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“The fact is though, no amount of training can make make someone look effortlessly graceful and elegant on the dancefloor.”
“The fact is though, no amount of training can make make someone look effortlessly graceful and elegant on the dancefloor.”
Oh I see...so Jay outdances the pros as well now does he???
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“As for your argument that Jay becoming a singer somehow means that he can't be a gifted dancer, surely that alone would suggest that he had no idea that he had dancing feet?”
“As for your argument that Jay becoming a singer somehow means that he can't be a gifted dancer, surely that alone would suggest that he had no idea that he had dancing feet?”
Hmm, much like this video "suggests"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mRdJJxiHw
I'll leave it there...
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Would rather see a poll :-
Jive - Jill vs Jay ... Both trained dancers
Or
AT - Jay vs Ramps - cos I loved Ramps AT
Or
Charleston - Pete vs Chris Collins - both novices”
“Would rather see a poll :-
Jive - Jill vs Jay ... Both trained dancers
Or
AT - Jay vs Ramps - cos I loved Ramps AT
Or
Charleston - Pete vs Chris Collins - both novices”
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2111212
Been there, done that...
As for Jay vs Ramps, they should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. Ramps & Karen's AT is the stuff of Strictly legend. Jay & Aliona's could have been but she woefully failed to make the most of both the dance and Jay's dance training. That ship has now sailed...
Originally Posted by DeiseDays:
“Do you think Brucie is texting Peter his old jokes? ”
“Do you think Brucie is texting Peter his old jokes?
”
Arh !!! that's where he getting them from , no wonder they are so bad ,
Originally Posted by jiroos:
“No apology needed - except for if you are apologising for giving me a near hernia laughing?!
Oh I see...so Jay outdances the pros as well now does he???
Hmm, much like this video "suggests"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mRdJJxiHw
I'll leave it there...”
“No apology needed - except for if you are apologising for giving me a near hernia laughing?!
Oh I see...so Jay outdances the pros as well now does he???
Hmm, much like this video "suggests"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mRdJJxiHw
I'll leave it there...”
Haha.
Hang on though, Jay was the only one in that class who could perform any of the moves. He is just a completely natural talent, and no one could ever teach that sort of ability. That's why everyone else he trained with just stood still waving their arms around while Jay was at the front
Originally Posted by jiroos:
“Oh I see...so Jay outdances the pros as well now does he???”
“Oh I see...so Jay outdances the pros as well now does he???”
Could you point me to where I said that or even mentioned the pros.
Looking forward to your reply.
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“Peter's charleston isn't even the best charleston of the series, never mind come close to Jay's jive. Kellie's charleston is far better than Peter's, Kevin & Kellie were perfectly synchronised in comparison to Peter & Janette.
Jay's jive will be remembered as an iconic dance of any series, Peter's will be remembered for it's laughable 10s imo”
“Peter's charleston isn't even the best charleston of the series, never mind come close to Jay's jive. Kellie's charleston is far better than Peter's, Kevin & Kellie were perfectly synchronised in comparison to Peter & Janette.
Jay's jive will be remembered as an iconic dance of any series, Peter's will be remembered for it's laughable 10s imo”
Agree 100%
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“
Haha.
Hang on though, Jay was the only one in that class who could perform any of the moves. He is just a completely natural talent, and no one could ever teach that sort of ability. That's why everyone else he trained with just stood still waving their arms around while Jay was at the front”
“
Haha.
Hang on though, Jay was the only one in that class who could perform any of the moves. He is just a completely natural talent, and no one could ever teach that sort of ability. That's why everyone else he trained with just stood still waving their arms around while Jay was at the front
”
To quote you
"Haha"!!!
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Could you point me to where I said that or even mentioned the pros.
Looking forward to your reply.”
“Could you point me to where I said that or even mentioned the pros.
Looking forward to your reply.
”
"No amount of training"....etc. See below for full, undiluted quote:
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“
The fact is though, no amount of training can make make someone look effortlessly graceful and elegant on the dancefloor.”
“
The fact is though, no amount of training can make make someone look effortlessly graceful and elegant on the dancefloor.”
Shall we also talk about "that video" while we're here too...???
Very much looking forward to YOUR response...
Originally Posted by youngthing12:
“No Contest Jay was Best 😀😀😀”
“No Contest Jay was Best 😀😀😀”
it will be embedded into the strictly history forever as an iconic dance
that will set the standard for many a year ,it was that good
Originally Posted by jiroos:
“Hmm, much like this video "suggests"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mRdJJxiHw
I'll leave it there...”
“Hmm, much like this video "suggests"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mRdJJxiHw
I'll leave it there...”
Also impressive that Jay has never done partnered dancing or lifts before. How on earth did he manage to do well in his dances in such short time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULoy1e1Ino ... I'm presuming the clip at 1:27s in doesn't count.
Looks like no one else at Jay's dance school was able to do what he could do...
Originally Posted by Nina_Blake:
“Also impressive that Jay has never done partnered dancing or lifts before. How on earth did he manage to do well in his dances in such short time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULoy1e1Ino ... I'm presuming the clip at 1:27s in doesn't count.
Looks like no one else at Jay's dance school was able to do what he could do...”
“Also impressive that Jay has never done partnered dancing or lifts before. How on earth did he manage to do well in his dances in such short time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lULoy1e1Ino ... I'm presuming the clip at 1:27s in doesn't count.
Looks like no one else at Jay's dance school was able to do what he could do...”
Sooooooooo "naturally gifted"...
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Jay's jive is the best dance ever in strictly for me, I did not really enjoy pete's Charleston tbh as it was out of time and OMG that wide open mouth all the way through If that is what the judges call emoting then I hope that Jay never ever learns to emote.”
“Jay's jive is the best dance ever in strictly for me, I did not really enjoy pete's Charleston tbh as it was out of time and OMG that wide open mouth all the way through
If that is what the judges call emoting then I hope that Jay never ever learns to emote.”
Couldn't let this pass. Kara and Artem's VW, American Smooth, Rumba far surpass that Jive, but of course, it's all subjective. What moves me will not move you and vice versa.
Originally Posted by postit:
“Couldn't let this pass. Kara and Artem's VW, American Smooth, Rumba far surpass that Jive, but of course, it's all subjective. What moves me will not move you and vice versa.”
“Couldn't let this pass. Kara and Artem's VW, American Smooth, Rumba far surpass that Jive, but of course, it's all subjective. What moves me will not move you and vice versa.”
Kara was amazing
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“Peter's charleston isn't even the best charleston of the series, never mind come close to Jay's jive. Kellie's charleston is far better than Peter's, Kevin & Kellie were perfectly synchronised in comparison to Peter & Janette.
Jay's jive will be remembered as an iconic dance of any series, Peter's will be remembered for it's laughable 10s imo”
“Peter's charleston isn't even the best charleston of the series, never mind come close to Jay's jive. Kellie's charleston is far better than Peter's, Kevin & Kellie were perfectly synchronised in comparison to Peter & Janette.
Jay's jive will be remembered as an iconic dance of any series, Peter's will be remembered for it's laughable 10s imo”
That's generous, I think Peter's Charleston will go down with fellow 38 scoring dances including Pamela's Charleston, Susannah's Foxtrot, Jake's samba forgotten, other than to say "how on earth did that get that score?"
Originally Posted by SKID1:
“it will be embedded into the strictly history forever as an iconic dance
that will set the standard for many a year ,it was that good”
“it will be embedded into the strictly history forever as an iconic dance
that will set the standard for many a year ,it was that good”
Only for his being gifted an iconic routine of an iconic scene from an iconic movie dressed as a john travolta clone complete with bewigged uma therman lookalike partner that everyone and their grandpa recognises .All they needed was to ship in tarantino to complete the iconic-acity of the thing
Nothing original , nothing unique , just a copy cat routine padded out with moves from jays 6 years of dance training . He could have danced the macarena and still have got a 10 for throwing in the pulp fiction dance scene .Pfft .
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Only for his being gifted an iconic routine of an iconic scene from an iconic movie dressed as a john travolta clone complete with bewigged uma therman lookalike partner that everyone and their grandpa recognises .All they needed was to ship in tarantino to complete the iconic-acity of the thing
Nothing original , nothing unique , just a copy cat routine padded out with moves from jays 6 years of dance training . He could have danced the macarena and still have got a 10 for throwing in the pulp fiction dance scene .Pfft .”
“Only for his being gifted an iconic routine of an iconic scene from an iconic movie dressed as a john travolta clone complete with bewigged uma therman lookalike partner that everyone and their grandpa recognises .All they needed was to ship in tarantino to complete the iconic-acity of the thing
Nothing original , nothing unique , just a copy cat routine padded out with moves from jays 6 years of dance training . He could have danced the macarena and still have got a 10 for throwing in the pulp fiction dance scene .Pfft .
”
I look forward to you posting a link to a clip of John Travolta and Uma Thurman dancing a jive.
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“I look forward to you posting a link to a clip of John Travolta and Uma Thurman dancing a jive.”
“I look forward to you posting a link to a clip of John Travolta and Uma Thurman dancing a jive.”
Don't be silly, they didn't dance a jive . The jive is dance academy standard fare when you've attended as long as jay did .
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“I look forward to you posting a link to a clip of John Travolta and Uma Thurman dancing a jive.”
“I look forward to you posting a link to a clip of John Travolta and Uma Thurman dancing a jive.”
Me too
Think I read that the jive has had nearly 4 millions hits on the Strictly F/B page now. And the comments about it are pretty much all positive. How could they not be? It was absolutely fantastic. I think most people recognise that.
JT and UT didn't even do a jive in that scene
And weren't they supposed to be stoned?
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Don't be silly, they didn't dance a jive . The jive is dance academy standard fare when you've attended as long as jay did .”
“Don't be silly, they didn't dance a jive . The jive is dance academy standard fare when you've attended as long as jay did .”
So it was a copycat jive of a twist routine. Right you are.
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