Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“So it was a copycat jive of a twist routine. Right you are.”
“So it was a copycat jive of a twist routine. Right you are.”
Yup
http://youtu.be/sTBhKboufF4
Results:B.O.T.H: Who wins???
Jay & Aliona (Jive)
303 (92.66%)
Peter & Janette (Charleston)
24 (7.34%)
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BATTLE OF THE HEAVYWEIGHTS: Jay & Aliona Jive vs Peter & Janette Charleston
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Both dances were very good but one will be remembered as one of the best ever dances in Strictly history and that would be Jay & Aliona's jive. No dance will be as good as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m6MjsMXZ8I this year.
P.S Jay has to make the final just to do this dance again I will be gutted if we dont see this dance again.
P.S Jay has to make the final just to do this dance again I will be gutted if we dont see this dance again.
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Only for his being gifted an iconic routine of an iconic scene from an iconic movie dressed as a john travolta clone complete with bewigged uma therman lookalike partner that everyone and their grandpa recognises .All they needed was to ship in tarantino to complete the iconic-acity of the thing
Nothing original , nothing unique , just a copy cat routine padded out with moves from jays 6 years of dance training . He could have danced the macarena and still have got a 10 for throwing in the pulp fiction dance scene .Pfft .
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“Only for his being gifted an iconic routine of an iconic scene from an iconic movie dressed as a john travolta clone complete with bewigged uma therman lookalike partner that everyone and their grandpa recognises .All they needed was to ship in tarantino to complete the iconic-acity of the thing
Nothing original , nothing unique , just a copy cat routine padded out with moves from jays 6 years of dance training . He could have danced the macarena and still have got a 10 for throwing in the pulp fiction dance scene .Pfft .
”
tbh aliona was a pretty good stand in for uma thurman, but whilst he may have danced well, jay didn't even begin to channel the louche, laid back, easy over style of john travolta... it was like watching uma dance with pudsey bear, or lennie. tell me about the rabbits george.
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“Me too
Think I read that the jive has had nearly 4 millions hits on the Strictly F/B page now. And the comments about it are pretty much all positive. How could they not be? It's was absolutely fantastic. I think most people recognise that.
JT and UT didn't even do a jive in that scene And weren't they supposed to be stoned?”
“Me too
Think I read that the jive has had nearly 4 millions hits on the Strictly F/B page now. And the comments about it are pretty much all positive. How could they not be? It's was absolutely fantastic. I think most people recognise that.
JT and UT didn't even do a jive in that scene
And weren't they supposed to be stoned?”
Youtube has it at 912,123 views, not yet one million. I imagine then that the FB views are confined to the younger generation, which makes sense. Personally, I'd never heard of Wanted, but then they rarely play pop music on Radio 4
Originally Posted by postit:
“Youtube has it at 912,123 views, not yet one million. I imagine then that the FB views are confined to the younger generation, which makes sense. Personally, I'd never heard of Wanted, but then they rarely play pop music on Radio 4”
“Youtube has it at 912,123 views, not yet one million. I imagine then that the FB views are confined to the younger generation, which makes sense. Personally, I'd never heard of Wanted, but then they rarely play pop music on Radio 4
”
3.7 million views on the Strictly Facebook so far. I'm not sure it's all just the 'younger generation' on Facebook. Especially when you look at the profile pics of the people leaving (mostly positive) comments. It's a mixed bag. My mum and dad both have Facebook and they're in their 60's. My mum has watched Jays jive numerous times via f/b on her iPad.
The Wanted have had a couple of number 1's. I like them and they're on my iTunes.
Originally Posted by jiroos:
“I think you meant to say "more trained".
"Naturally gifted"??? Do me a favour!!! I suppose Strictly bosses just happened to go for the least-known/popular member of The Wanted for no apparent reason???
Or could it have been something to do with the Youtube videos we've ALL watched...???!
"Naturally gifted dancer" yet he became a singer?? Makes sense....”
“I think you meant to say "more trained".
"Naturally gifted"??? Do me a favour!!! I suppose Strictly bosses just happened to go for the least-known/popular member of The Wanted for no apparent reason???
Or could it have been something to do with the Youtube videos we've ALL watched...???!
"Naturally gifted dancer" yet he became a singer?? Makes sense....
”
Doesn't the fact that Helen did the same course as Jay (only at a more prestigious school) but has yet to produce anything near the standard of his jive, suggest that the difference is natural talent rather than training?
Jay & Aliona's Jive by a country mile. One of the best ever dances on Strictly.
I've certainly added more than a few hits to it on Youtube, in comparison I've watched Peter & Janette's Charleston once, simply to see the timing issues a lot of people are correctly talking about.
I've certainly added more than a few hits to it on Youtube, in comparison I've watched Peter & Janette's Charleston once, simply to see the timing issues a lot of people are correctly talking about.
Originally Posted by postit:
“Couldn't let this pass. Kara and Artem's VW, American Smooth, Rumba far surpass that Jive, but of course, it's all subjective. What moves me will not move you and vice versa.”
“Couldn't let this pass. Kara and Artem's VW, American Smooth, Rumba far surpass that Jive, but of course, it's all subjective. What moves me will not move you and vice versa.”
Ahhh I loved Kara and most of her dances were sublime, but I still say that Jay's jive is the best ever dance on strictly for me.
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“Doesn't the fact that Helen did the same course as Jay (only at a more prestigious school) but has yet to produce anything near the standard of his jive, suggest that the difference is natural talent rather than training?”
“Doesn't the fact that Helen did the same course as Jay (only at a more prestigious school) but has yet to produce anything near the standard of his jive, suggest that the difference is natural talent rather than training?”
Agree. You can have all the training in the world & become a mediocre dancer but if you don't have a natural talent, you're never going to be a fantastic dancer.
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“Jay & Aliona's Jive by a country mile. One of the best ever dances on Strictly.
I've certainly added more than a few hits to it on Youtube, in comparison I've watched Peter & Janette's Charleston once, simply to see the timing issues a lot of people are correctly talking about.”
“Jay & Aliona's Jive by a country mile. One of the best ever dances on Strictly.
I've certainly added more than a few hits to it on Youtube, in comparison I've watched Peter & Janette's Charleston once, simply to see the timing issues a lot of people are correctly talking about.”
Yes, that performance will be talked about and referenced for years and years. A truly phenomenal dance.
I watched the Charleston once more (for research purposes) and also had to laugh when the judges were raving about it and dishing out 10's left, right and centre, Then you could see PA, in slow motion no less, in the background being out of time with Jeanette. Priceless!
There's simply no comparison!
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
It's the ovaries doing the voting
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“It's the ovaries doing the voting”
“It's the ovaries doing the voting
”
I don't mind my ovaries voting. They're very sensible. They clearly know a heck of a lot more about dance quality than a lot of other people's brains. It was a bit of a bugger teaching them to dial though.
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
Looks like I'm still eagerly awaiting your comments (sarcastic or otherwise) on the two very telling Youtube videos posted three hours ago...
Jay hasn't come close to repeating the breath-taking quality of that jive. I partly blame Aliona because after the moderate disaster of the following week, Aliona has given Jay less challenging, less content routines to perform.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“I don't mind my ovaries voting. They're very sensible. They clearly know a heck of a lot more about dance quality than a lot of other people's brains. It was a bit of a bugger teaching them to dial though.”
“I don't mind my ovaries voting. They're very sensible. They clearly know a heck of a lot more about dance quality than a lot of other people's brains. It was a bit of a bugger teaching them to dial though.”
I mean, if PA had given that performance to that jive, I would have reluctantly had to agree it was fantastic. I have to agree with you. I think our ovaries know plenty about dance quality! Not to mention that sultry, sensual AT dance on Saturday, his footwork is awesome! I've watched that dance more than the jive now! Hot!!
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“Not always. Often it is because we vote for our favourite dancer and the nicest person.”
“Not always. Often it is because we vote for our favourite dancer and the nicest person.”
I agree. See, I haven't seen anything of Jay the person. He's a closed book. His fans can rave all they like but I have to observe what I see and what I've NOT seen is any trace of passion, exerberance, pleasure in the dance.
He appears to be the product of a dance education and unlike some of the Sylvia whatsername's school of dance, he's also learned ballroom (thanks to everyone for the Youtube links).
Originally Posted by postit:
“I agree. See, I haven't seen anything of Jay the person. He's a closed book. His fans can rave all they like but I have to observe what I see and what I've NOT seen is any trace of passion, exerberance, pleasure in the dance.
He appears to be the product of a dance education and unlike some of the Sylvia whatsername's school of dance, he's also learned ballroom (thanks to everyone for the Youtube links).”
“I agree. See, I haven't seen anything of Jay the person. He's a closed book. His fans can rave all they like but I have to observe what I see and what I've NOT seen is any trace of passion, exerberance, pleasure in the dance.
He appears to be the product of a dance education and unlike some of the Sylvia whatsername's school of dance, he's also learned ballroom (thanks to everyone for the Youtube links).”
That's a good point . He is too robotic for my taste and that petulant look is wearing thin . He needs a jolt to liven him up . Like you say, might be just the fact that he has been churned out on the old stage/dance school factory style conveyor belt .
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
“Looks like Jay is slightly ahead of Peter in the poll.”
Originally Posted by Hmmbop:
“It's the ovaries doing the voting”
“It's the ovaries doing the voting
”
Originally Posted by scout2006:
“The only "heavyweight" thing about PA is his ego.”
“The only "heavyweight" thing about PA is his ego.”
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“That's a good point . He is too robotic for my taste and that petulant look is wearing thin . He needs a jolt to liven him up . Like you say, might be just the fact that he has been churned out on the old stage/dance school factory style conveyor belt .”
“That's a good point . He is too robotic for my taste and that petulant look is wearing thin . He needs a jolt to liven him up . Like you say, might be just the fact that he has been churned out on the old stage/dance school factory style conveyor belt .”
Petulant? Childishly sulky and bad tempered? Jaypet?? Nah!
I love how you mention Jays stage/dance school pretty much all the time. It never fails to bring a
to my face.
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