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Old 11-11-2015, 20:56
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So Trevor runs through the village shooting a gun in front of a hundred or so witnesses. BUT he had time to stop and inject Charles, who was collapsed on the floor.

Trevor apparently has access to medical supplies and has gone round killing people in a hospital where there are CCTV cameras - that if he was a suspect would've been scrutinised to check if he was even near any of the murdered individuals.

Trevor has the medical knowledge to know how to trigger heart attacks - he knows the doses required.

Trevor murdering his own son. Would anyone ever consider he would? There's no motive for any of the other murders.

PC plod running a murder investigation. Ugh.

Lindsey conveniently finding planted evidence and no one is the slightest bit suspicious or even questions this coincidence - especially Grace who she had just attacked.


Other points:

JP interfering in Ste and Harry's love life - not his business. Actually JP can just do one.

Ste needing to go on medication after a few months of diagnosis. Very rare; although I accept the point that it's advised these days to go on meds early. Regardless, I know from friends working in the medical profession that the first treatment is two pills for most people, very rarely one.

Ugh. Just ugh.
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:14
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I thought it was fairly obvious that the police hid Freddie to frame Trevor after months and months of trying to pin something on him. It doesn't really seem necessary for them to blame him for ALL of the murders as finding one "body" in his boot is sufficient enough to achieve their goal but yeah the whole stories been ridiculous from start to end especially how Lindsey has played it cool for 10 months and now the audience knows shes just mental 24/7

In regards to Ste/JP - JP should just leave. He's been nothing but the new Carmel (i.e everyones punch bag and a complete mug) since the minute he returned. He has NOTHING McQueen about him. No fight, no fire just endless victimisation and repeating his own mistakes.

Stes illness would be elevated for the fact that it's a soap. It's got to be real without being too real hence why hardly anyone is pregnant the full nine months and things go from zero to sixty pretty quickly. If Ste had been diagnosed with HIV and that diagnosis was the last we heard of it then there's absolute no story drama there whatsoever.

My biggest grip with the Ste/JP thing is that JP still pines after him. The guy cheated on you with some random which left him with HIV, he then cheated on you again which left him with a baby and now he's still pining after some kid who just cost you your career and you STILL want to be with hi. This is why you don't marry someone you used to hate after being in a relationship with them for 3 months.
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:15
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So Trevor runs through the village shooting a gun in front of a hundred or so witnesses. BUT he had time to stop and inject Charles, who was collapsed on the floor.

Trevor apparently has access to medical supplies and has gone round killing people in a hospital where there are CCTV cameras - that if he was a suspect would've been scrutinised to check if he was even near any of the murdered individuals.

Trevor has the medical knowledge to know how to trigger heart attacks - he knows the doses required.

Trevor murdering his own son. Would anyone ever consider he would? There's no motive for any of the other murders.

PC plod running a murder investigation. Ugh.

Lindsey conveniently finding planted evidence and no one is the slightest bit suspicious or even questions this coincidence - especially Grace who she had just attacked.


Other points:

JP interfering in Ste and Harry's love life - not his business. Actually JP can just do one.

Ste needing to go on medication after a few months of diagnosis. Very rare; although I accept the point that it's advised these days to go on meds early. Regardless, I know from friends working in the medical profession that the first treatment is two pills for most people, very rarely one.

Ugh. Just ugh.
BiB in fairness Harry in particular kind of made it JP's business by allowing accusations to go unclarified and losing JP his job, but as JP says mud sticks. If I were JP I wouldn't actually want anything to do with them but I suppose you can't turn off caring like a tap.

Re the Trevor thing with all due respect I doubt he has the brain cells.
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:24
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I thought it was fairly obvious that the police hid Freddie to frame Trevor after months and months of trying to pin something on him. It doesn't really seem necessary for them to blame him for ALL of the murders as finding one "body" in his boot is sufficient enough to achieve their goal but yeah the whole stories been ridiculous from start to end especially how Lindsey has played it cool for 10 months and now the audience knows shes just mental 24/7
Thorpe, the one who saw Freddie move, is certainly corrupt enough to do something like this. He leads suspects and witnesses, puts words in their mouths, and sometimes outright threatens them; in the real world, even one incident like this would render evidence inadmissible in court and get him put on a disciplinary, let alone getting away with it on a regular basis as he does. I wonder though, does Boring Ben know the truth yet? He's been so agitated about trying to get Trevor convicted, I doubt he would be if he knew that Trevor was going to go down for it anyway because the police were setting him up. More likely Thorpe is acting in cahoots with higher-ups and they either have Freddie in witness protection or he is in a coma and they're waiting for him to wake up (BK teased in an interview the question of whether Freddie would remember anything about Lindsey)
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Old 11-11-2015, 23:07
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Thorpe, the one who saw Freddie move, is certainly corrupt enough to do something like this. He leads suspects and witnesses, puts words in their mouths, and sometimes outright threatens them; in the real world, even one incident like this would render evidence inadmissible in court and get him put on a disciplinary, let alone getting away with it on a regular basis as he does. I wonder though, does Boring Ben know the truth yet? He's been so agitated about trying to get Trevor convicted, I doubt he would be if he knew that Trevor was going to go down for it anyway because the police were setting him up. More likely Thorpe is acting in cahoots with higher-ups and they either have Freddie in witness protection or he is in a coma and they're waiting for him to wake up (BK teased in an interview the question of whether Freddie would remember anything about Lindsey)
Have they not had a funeral for him and wouldn't a family member need to identify the body?
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Old 11-11-2015, 23:30
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I think Jason "id'd" him, although I'm not sure if he is in the loop re Freddie being alive and he'd want Trevor to go down for what he did to Holly. And Jason if the loop could push for a memorial as he'd probably be the one organising it or the police could claim Freddie's body was needed for test, then claiming they would not want to see him due to that etc... So closed coffin for funeral etc...
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:10
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Given that Freddie is alive (assuming he is) then the police as a collective would have to be in on the deception.

There is no way that one rogue cop could pretend Freddie was dead, have somebody charged for his murder and yet have no corpse. Just look at the number of police who were present at the scene when Freddie was discovered in the back of Trevor's car. What I do find odd about the discovery of Freddie was that having seen him move the automatic reaction should have been to call for immediate medical assistance not leave him quietly twitching.

Quite how many of the police are in the know is a matter for debate. Are Jason and/or Ben being kept out of the loop because of their personal closeness to the crimes and are they under suspicion of dodgy activity themselves?
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:48
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HO having woeful cops is nothing new. Lest we forget Ethan, for example.
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:01
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Given that Freddie is alive (assuming he is) then the police as a collective would have to be in on the deception.

There is no way that one rogue cop could pretend Freddie was dead, have somebody charged for his murder and yet have no corpse. Just look at the number of police who were present at the scene when Freddie was discovered in the back of Trevor's car. What I do find odd about the discovery of Freddie was that having seen him move the automatic reaction should have been to call for immediate medical assistance not leave him quietly twitching.

Quite how many of the police are in the know is a matter for debate. Are Jason and/or Ben being kept out of the loop because of their personal closeness to the crimes and are they under suspicion of dodgy activity themselves?
Not one, no - but since Thorpe first saw move I would not be surprised if it was his idea and/or if he asked to keep Ben and Jason out of it.

Ben and Jason being "too close" is very possible but then since everyone knows Ben is desperate to see Trevor go to jail, if they were setting him up why NOT tell Ben? There has to be more to this
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:27
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How come none of the Roscoes asked to see Freddie's body?
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Old 12-11-2015, 13:00
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I gave up on HO years ago. John Paul was one of my favorite charactersd but has been totally wasted since his return and has had repetitive storylines, always with a married man or with Ste (after everything, that relationship and especially the marriage was so not plausible. A mess. Donīt get me started with Ste. I think the way that character has been used for so many years, he they should have said goodbye to him a long time ago (good actor, itīs not that).
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Old 12-11-2015, 14:05
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Hmm, and what's happened to Cindy all of a sudden? She's the one who was originally going around saying there was a killer at the hospital and now she's nowhere to be seen. Can't believe she wouldn't be even more concerned now that the doc has met a sticky end too. Ahh, but of course, she found a staff locker full of 'evidence' so the police would never ask her anything would they, well Trevor doesn't work there! Can't ask someone who might know the truth and point the finger at someone other than him. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm actually starting to feel sorry for him. Free the gangland thug/ non hospital worker 1 !
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Old 12-11-2015, 14:52
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So Trevor runs through the village shooting a gun in front of a hundred or so witnesses. BUT he had time to stop and inject Charles, who was collapsed on the floor.

Trevor apparently has access to medical supplies and has gone round killing people in a hospital where there are CCTV cameras - that if he was a suspect would've been scrutinised to check if he was even near any of the murdered individuals.

Trevor has the medical knowledge to know how to trigger heart attacks - he knows the doses required.

Trevor murdering his own son. Would anyone ever consider he would? There's no motive for any of the other murders.

PC plod running a murder investigation. Ugh.

Lindsey conveniently finding planted evidence and no one is the slightest bit suspicious or even questions this coincidence - especially Grace who she had just attacked.


Other points:

JP interfering in Ste and Harry's love life - not his business. Actually JP can just do one.

Ste needing to go on medication after a few months of diagnosis. Very rare; although I accept the point that it's advised these days to go on meds early. Regardless, I know from friends working in the medical profession that the first treatment is two pills for most people, very rarely one.

Ugh. Just ugh.
if they had done that and done their job correctly then Tegan, Lindsey, Kim and Celine would all have been hauled in for questioning by now!

such a ridiculous storyline now that the GHK has been revealed - well, it was bonkers before but its even more bonkers now!
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Old 12-11-2015, 17:06
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The HIV plot annoys me less as its now been explained that his CD4 is low and its advised he starts medication - not that it's critically low that he'll get really ill.

I just think a virus which has so much stigma should be documented as accurately as possible.
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Old 12-11-2015, 17:22
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HO having woeful cops is nothing new. Lest we forget Ethan, for example.
Yes but he was oh so pretty

I completely agree with the OP. This storyline has now turned farcical.
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:40
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Everyone thinking trevor is the serial killer is just ridiculous. He's a thug yes but doesn't the brains to kill them in the way they were killed. Especially can't believe grace thinks he's the killer, she's supposed to know him better than anyone. Just want this storyline to end but since lindsay isn't leaving anytime soon doesn't look likely to happen.
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:51
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Surely even the idiot cops of Dee Valley Police can see that the deaths are medically related. How could Trevor cause all those people to have heart attacks - I mean REALLY? !!

I can't believe that the Roscoes have identified Freddie's 'body' without realising it wasn't him. I mean who are they going to bury?

It's just a succession of badly thought out ideas these days.....
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:53
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So Trevor runs through the village shooting a gun in front of a hundred or so witnesses. BUT he had time to stop and inject Charles, who was collapsed on the floor.
This is a fair point. But its possible Charles was injected before Trevor chased Robbie and Jason.

Trevor apparently has access to medical supplies and has gone round killing people in a hospital where there are CCTV cameras - that if he was a suspect would've been scrutinised to check if he was even near any of the murdered individuals.
He wasn't a suspect. There were no suspects until Kim tipped the police off about Trevor having a body in his boot.

Trevor has the medical knowledge to know how to trigger heart attacks - he knows the doses required.
I'm sure its possible to buy that stuff on the black market along with any syringes. Why does he need to know doses? He's killing them. He just needs to give them a load of it.

Trevor murdering his own son. Would anyone ever consider he would? There's no motive for any of the other murders.
His son was a cross dresser. Trevor could have felt shame for having a son he perceived as weak. He's a serial killer. The motive is whatever drives him to do it. You don't need to have specific reasons for each individual victim.

Lindsey conveniently finding planted evidence and no one is the slightest bit suspicious or even questions this coincidence - especially Grace who she had just attacked.
Trevor was found with Freddie's body in his boot and charged with his murder. It's an understandable link for him to have some kind of tribute or evidence in his flat. Why would anyone question it? It adds further weight to his guilt.
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Old 12-11-2015, 18:54
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Surely even the idiot cops of Dee Valley Police can see that the deaths are medically related. How could Trevor cause all those people to have heart attacks - I mean REALLY? !!

I can't believe that the Roscoes have identified Freddie's 'body' without realising it wasn't him. I mean who are they going to bury?

It's just a succession of badly thought out ideas these days.....
Can't believe how bad hollyoaks have been with this especially when it used to be so good.
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Old 12-11-2015, 19:02
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Everyone thinking trevor is the serial killer is just ridiculous. He's a thug yes but doesn't the brains to kill them in the way they were killed. Especially can't believe grace thinks he's the killer, she's supposed to know him better than anyone. Just want this storyline to end but since lindsay isn't leaving anytime soon doesn't look likely to happen.
You do reaslise people from all walks of life have been serial killers. There's no IQ test you need to pass to be considered capable. Trevor isn't some mindless thug either.

People thinking Trevor is a serial killer isn't ridiculous in the slightest. He fits a stereotype of someone dangerous. Hes been found with a body in his boot and charged. Nobody has any reason to question this.
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Old 12-11-2015, 19:06
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I can't believe that the Roscoes have identified Freddie's 'body' without realising it wasn't him. I mean who are they going to bury?
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Nobody has confirmed this as fact. Someone just speculated so you can't say that its happened.

One theory is the police would say Freddie's body needs to be examined to find proof of how he died and so he's not ready to be seen by the family.
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:05
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Yes but he was oh so pretty

I completely agree with the OP. This storyline has now turned farcical.
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