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Old 12-11-2015, 18:57
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Have to say this series is pretty dull. There's no-one really good or really bad, there's been nothing hugely entertaining. Karen and claude are fun sponges.
The past two weeks have been terrible. You'd think a triple firing would be exciting.
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:00
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I think when a show has been on for eleven years it's bound to feel a bit tired. I mean there's only so much you can do with the format.

But, the producers aren't really helping - they need new tasks, and different kinds of candidates. We've had far too many Mergim, Joseph types in the history of the show.
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:14
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If it ain't broke...smash it up and grab the superglue.
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:50
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New tasks, and new treats too, to make the tasks worth winning. Too often you get the impression candidates are blase about losing provided they can pin the blame on a teammate. The surest way not to get fired is to win the task.

The producers also seem too keen on showing mistakes and rows. I want to see candidates mainly doing well, just as I want to see good cooking on Masterchef, and I suspect the same is true for those watching The Voice, Strictly, X-Factor and BGT. Big Brother should not be the model.
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Old 12-11-2015, 21:02
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New tasks, and new treats too, to make the tasks worth winning. Too often you get the impression candidates are blase about losing provided they can pin the blame on a teammate. The surest way not to get fired is to win the task.

The producers also seem too keen on showing mistakes and rows. I want to see candidates mainly doing well, just as I want to see good cooking on Masterchef, and I suspect the same is true for those watching The Voice, Strictly, X-Factor and BGT. Big Brother should not be the model.
I agree - it's all down to the editing. The candidates have been edited in a very poor light this year and last year, and last year that led to a very lackluster conclusion.
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Old 12-11-2015, 21:19
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It's true that there have been no Sarahs, no Stephens, not even any Daniels (although I should reserve judgement - still another six weeks left!).

The editing has been poor this year. I still don't really know who Gary is and it's six weeks in.

That said, I don't think the format is tired and the show is still brilliantly entertaining. It'll always be the case that some years the candidates are going to be more memorable/entertaining than others but this one still isn't nearly as bad as 2012.
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Old 12-11-2015, 21:24
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The prize of getting to run with mo farrah was terrible. I would've said no thanks
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Old 12-11-2015, 22:24
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The prize of getting to run with mo farrah was terrible. I would've said no thanks
Aye me too, I'd have gone with the losing team to the Bridge Café.
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Old 12-11-2015, 23:03
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From the previews (and the preview clip) it looks like it's going to be great task next week (fireworks on both teams!)
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Old 13-11-2015, 03:05
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I thought this weeks episode was edited very confusingly. A lot of jumping around back and forth. But I'm still enjoying this series.

My least favourite was the one with that very stupid market trader guy. Everyone seemed very lazy and not very competent or creative that season - it was like a parody Apprentice.
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Old 13-11-2015, 05:10
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*gone

It is actually an improvement from series 10 which there were so many fodders (Hi Steven hi Sarah), but of course I still prefer series 7-8 for the new format.

The prize of getting to run with mo farrah was terrible. I would've said no thanks
Yeah that was lame.
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Old 13-11-2015, 08:04
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The prize of getting to run with mo farrah was terrible. I would've said no thanks
Ironically, that is probably the the one they'll tell the grandchildren, or at least their mates down the pub during the 2016 Olympics. It makes a better anecdote than, say, eating sushi. But yes, it was visually underwhelming.
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Old 19-11-2015, 05:34
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I still find Sugar's dreadful grammar amusing
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Old 19-11-2015, 06:46
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Like any reality series, it gets figured out and the quality of people on it drop.

The candidates now simply working to not look bad personally in the board room, winning the task is a side issue.

And after so long, they are scrapping the barrel for talent, you've had 150 people on the show, and for credible business people there are other ways than a mid week light entertainment show on the BBC to get yourselves noticed
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Old 19-11-2015, 08:33
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Has a basic grasp of English tenses gone out of fashion?
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Old 19-11-2015, 09:19
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I still find Sugar's dreadful grammar amusing
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He puts it together himself in the back of his van
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Old 19-11-2015, 09:20
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He puts it together himself in the back of his van
A corter of a million pahhhnds!
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Old 19-11-2015, 11:19
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It would be good if even on the winning team, someone could get fired as well, it would certainly stop all the "hangers on" and if LAS much like last week could single out certain people as "safe" even if on the losing team.
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Old 19-11-2015, 11:30
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It would be good if even on the winning team, someone could get fired as well, it would certainly stop all the "hangers on" and if LAS much like last week could single out certain people as "safe" even if on the losing team.
Hell's kitchen USA does this quite well.
If you havent seen it, the losing team will be told to chose two contestants to be up for eviction. The winning team are sat to the side of the dining room and the losing team are lined up in from of Gordon Ramey. Once the two are selected, they'll have a chance to defend themselves and one will be sent home.
Sometimes, GR will pick someone else from the losing team that he thought did appallingly, and the odd time its someone from the winning team. No one is safe.
Its good because sometimes the useless people never seem to be brough back to the final three in the apprentice. I've said before, but if you were lucky you could get to the interview stage of the show (so the semii final or final depending on the eyar) with luck and by doing nothing, if you were on the winning team each week
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Old 19-11-2015, 11:36
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Tasks seem a bit boring recently

All of them fairly 'easy', so that neither team screws up that bad

"You have 2 days to invent, advertise and sell a new beach product" makes a good task because it's very difficult
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Old 20-11-2015, 09:25
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I'd love to see a shake-up of the format; something like having a task which runs over several episodes and takes a full week in "real life". It seems as if most tasks currently come down to selling stuff as fast as possible, instead of testing actual business competency.

For example, a 5-day task where day 1-2 is to design a product (eg shampoo), and then day 3 is selling samples to the public and doing market research, and days 4-5 are finalising the design (so actually having time to incorporate market research and change things accordingly), making a promo etc and launching to industry. So it's 3 episodes and someone gets fired at the end of each. Obviously you'd need it to be an interesting product (shampoo might be a bit dull, but that was just what came to mind), but it would be a different type of challenge.

Or towards the end, instead of splitting into teams, just have everyone together and send Lord Sugar to watch instead of Karren and Claude, so he actually sees what goes on.

Those are just off the top of my head, but it'd be interesting to see something different happening.
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Old 20-11-2015, 11:25
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I strongly agree here OP. I think the advisors are an important aspect to the show, and it went a bit downhill when they brought on Claude as an advisor.
He has absolutely NO tv charm (hard to describe this) and that boring "no prisoners taken" attitude should only be there for the final boardroom. It was fun seeing Nick Hewer's expressions and his reactions to things, it makes the whole "assessor" duties on camera a lot less textbook like. Having a that type of character livens up the whole show. Although Claude is right near 100% of the time, I don't need a stern guy who kills the joy out of everything.

The same can be said for Karen, all she does is shake her head, roll her eyes, and puts on a smug face. End of the day it is television, and it NEEDS to be entertaining. Claude nor Karen bring that to the table.
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Old 20-11-2015, 12:05
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Nick had a sense of humor and the funniest frowns of all time. All Claude has done up until now is disapprove of everything. There's no space in the boardroom for contestants to be themselves. LS just shoots them down.

Even the triple firing was without much going on. They all just slipped silently out of the room.

The show is entirely too flat as a result. There needs to be that balance of humor and seriousness; playing a game and being in a process. It's supposed to be entertainment after all.
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Old 20-11-2015, 12:37
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Nick's act was desperately tired towards the end to be honest. The editors randomly throwing in shots like "LOOK! IT'S NICK! AND HE'S SAT ON A TRACTOR! NICK! ON A TRACTOR! IMAGINE THAT!" didn't help.
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Old 20-11-2015, 12:54
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Wasn't it said that in the early series, the team shadowed by Margaret invariably won because her body language made it obvious when they were going off the rails?
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