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barbeler
15-11-2015
I do like Only A Northern Song, but George Martin thought it was too poor to release. It was deliberately written to be as deadbeat and non-commercial as possible, in order to fulfil their much resented contractual obligation to provide another song for Northern Songs, the music publisher.
TeeGee
15-11-2015
There is an interesting book called The Outliers (by Malcolm Gladwell) which is all about the sequences of events that take basic skills to a Global level. In short there is Chance leading to Opportunity and Work. Apparently it was the Hamburg gigs, many more hours a day than expected, that contributed to the "10,000 hours" practice that raised them from jobbing rockers to superstars.

There is quite a difference in style between the LP tracks and the singles and generally I think I prefer the comparative simplicity of the latter. It does make me wonder if others contributed to the lyrics as some contain emotions that I would have thought were unknown to their youthfulness. She's Leaving Home and Girl come to mind.

I have grown to like them more over time remembering vividly where when and with whom I first heard their releases. That's the trouble with growing old - maybe I should listen to Carole King's Goin' Back.........

P S If anyone has a pre owned Rickenbacker they want to get rid of........ ?!
xxtimbo
15-11-2015
Paul is kindof the Prince of Pop in the UK


Brian Wilson has got to be the Prince of Pop in the USA .....

Bit spooky that they were both born within 48 hours of each other !!!!!!
barbeler
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by xxtimbo:
“Paul is kindof the Prince of Pop in the UK


Brian Wilson has got to be the Prince of Pop in the USA .....

Bit spooky that they were both born within 48 hours of each other !!!!!!”

Why is that?
xxtimbo
17-11-2015
Was Brian left handed too ?
St Dabeoc
17-11-2015
Originally Posted by xxtimbo:
“Is George double tracking his voice in Northern Song ?

Agreed Blue Jay Way is a fab song, lets whiz that
into Sgt Pepper and get rid of Within you without you

Looking back , Mag Myst Tour was brilliant... cant help thinking that its a pity they did nt get a few more songs together
and turn it into a... Magical Mystery Tour LP ... plus all the art work
it could have topped Sgt Pepper !”

it was an album (US). You had to have it to get Hello, Goodbye Strawberry Fields Forever Penny Lane Baby, You're a Rich Man unless you had the singles
xxtimbo
17-11-2015
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“Why is that? ”

Paul and Brian's mothers both got preggers at the same time
xxtimbo
20-11-2015
Beatlemania began in England in the autumn of 1962 when the Beatles released Love me Do .
The Beatles made their first ever TV appearance on October 17th. 1962 in Manchester, at the Granada TV Studios.
'Please Please Me' was released in the spring 1963
then in May 1963 they released ... 'From Me to You.'
In July 1964 .... 'She Loves You ' was released and by then Beatlemania was becoming a phenomenon sweeping the country, the Beatles were mobbed wherever they went, every venue was sold out with masses of screaming girls drowning out their singing.
There had never been anything like the Beatles and the mass hysteria that they inspired among their growing army of fans.
Their pictures were in every newspaper and magazine, their TV , radio and live appearances were major events, eagerly awaited by their millions of fans.

The Beatle songs were so fresh and new, 'Please please me,' 'She loves you'.....etc there was an excitement and energy in these pop songs that was unique , almost magical ......and two of the Beatles....... John and Paul, were writing them !

The Beatles were young, good looking guys with a disarming humour, they were becoming rich and famous with their music ........ and having a ball along the way.

Suddenly the British showbiz world of Alma Cogan, Cliff Richard , Tommy Steele and Lonnie Donegan appeared old fashioned and out of date.

The Beatles were a breath of fresh air, something new and different........ like the beginning of a New Age.
1963 was a fabulous year for the Beatles, it was the year they achieved nationwide fame and a unique status in British showbiz. There had never been such mass hysteria and mass worship for a singing pop group before.

Their status was confirmed on the night of 4th November 1963 when they appeared at the Royal Variety Performance in front of the Queen Mother , Princess Margaret and London's show biz elite.
It was a glittering occasion, televised to the nation ...... a TV show eagerly awaited by Beatles fans up and down the land............ and the Beatles stole the show !

All this excitement and musical innovation was going on in the UK, meanwhile....... across the Atlantic, the Americans were blissfully unaware of the very existence of the Beatles.
America had Elvis, they had The Beach boys, the Ronnettes, Chuck Berry, they had a hot music scene, without doubt the hottest on the planet.

All too soon that fateful day.... 22nd November 1963 ...... came around...... that day when time stood still...... that dreadful day when President Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas Texas.
It was a world shaking event that traumatised America and shocked the entire world.

In late December 63 the Beatles released ' I want to hold your hand.' The boys had done it again and it was yet another Lennon / MacCartney composition........ was there no end to their amazing talent ?

'I want to Hold Your Hand' is significant because it was the song that went on to break the Beatles in America ..... it was the song that made Americans prick up their ears .

It went on to become the fastest selling British release in America and by February 1st 1964 it had reached No 1 in the American Billboard charts, (selling 2 million copies along the way.)

A number one hit had been what Eppy was waiting for .... on 7th February 1964 ......... the Beatles landed at Kennedy Airport to be greeted by 3000 screaming fans.
The fan hysteria and idol worship had followed them across the Atlantic...... only ..... this time the hysteria was on a massive American scale.

America, that mighty continent, that home of the brave.......... land of the free.... was also the home of pop music, Hollywood and mass consumerism.

America was rich, its thriving, megabucks economy was the envy of the world. By Feb 1964 the post war baby boomers were coming of age........ and they wanted to party.

The Beatles mesmerised America with their music and style when they appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show. They played before an audience of 73 million ...coast to coast.... for the Beatles this was the big time...... the big , big time !

It seemed that the long years of touring round seedy venues in Britain and Hamburg had all been worth it, they had all been a preparation for this dazzling moment.
The Beatles were broadcasting to the American Colossus they were there on TV in in every city, in every home.
And the Beatles were well prepared..... they had a fabulous catalogue of songs to sell to their new legions of American fans.

I can' t help thinking that it was really John Lennon who generated all this mass hysteria on two continents.
I feel that so many of the early songs are his alone, songs like ' I want to hold your hand ' and 'She loves You' for example.
I don t think Paul had very much to do with them.
John was the mastermind behind Beatlemania in the early days, he was the driving force , the dynamo.
It was John's musical genius that supplied the rocket fuel behind the Beatles meteoric rise to success and world fame.

Later, during the calmer, hippie days of Sergeant Pepper and 1967 , the power shifted over to Paul. The handsome, diplomatic Paul became the driving force behind the Beatles with his clever, innovative songs, songs like 'Fixing a Hole,' 'Meter Maid', and ' With a little help from my friends'.
Songs that were so different from the earthy, gutsy, visceral songs of John Lennon , whose burning genius generated the phenomena known as ......... Beatlemania !
onecitizen
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Digressing a bit,

I read and contribute to a couple of USA music message boards. It amazes me that so many contributors over there are so obsessed with the Beatles, far more than most people in this country.”

Perhaps it's human nature to take things you have on your doorstep a bit more for granted.
But you are right the impact the Beatles had, and still have, in America is huge and rightly so.

Even the kids over there still love them (mostly), the American kids on this video are great, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9US-cXJMo
onecitizen
23-11-2015
Kids try and work out the lyrics to I am the Walrus, good luck with that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmf5-0OXls8

And the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r52ZBx0KMI
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