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Old 13-11-2015, 18:59
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She had absolutely nothing on Pauline Fowler and Angie Watts. Now I actually miss them
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:00
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Especially when there is always a thread complaining about her death. It happened nearly four-years ago, time to move on.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:10
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Angie was only in the show three years, viewers may have seen her differently if she had been in the show for decades. Pauline was a good character, but she was more restricted to her own bubble.You could pick Pat up and stick her with any group of characters and it would work. She didn't have to be the main focus of a storyline either, she was a good mediator and a good tool to move plots on.

Pat would dish out hugs and thick ears to those who deserved it, sometimes she'd do both at once. She wasn't perfect and didn't act like she was either. Her life experiences make her such a good agony aunt too.

I loved Pat and I think the show is still suffering from losing her. There is no doubt in my mind that killing Pat off when they did was the worst decision in the whole history of EastEnders.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:11
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Especially when there is always a thread complaining about her death. It happened nearly four-years ago, time to move on.
She was an OK character but other than longtevity I never saw her as this massive soap icon.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:12
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She had absolutely nothing on Pauline Fowler and Angie Watts. Now I actually miss them
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Why does have to be either or. All 3 were fantastic characters.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:28
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I loved Pauline AND Pat and from what ive seen of her Angie as well.

I dont think Pat is overrated and wish she hadnt been killed off
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:30
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Pat's former role on the show is now being fulfilled by Shirley and to a lessor degree Kat when she returns. That just goes to show how easily replaceable of a character she is. No character has ever been able to replace Angie, Pauline and even Peggy.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:30
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Pat's former role on the show is now being fulfilled by Shirley and to a lessor degree Kat when she returns. That just goes to show how easily replaceable of a character she is.
Now you're just on the wind up..
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:43
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I never did get the Angie love. I just thought I'd put that out there.

She was a good character but not a big favourite of mine. I've never missed her presence.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:49
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Angie was only in the show three years, viewers may have seen her differently if she had been in the show for decades. Pauline was a good character, but she was more restricted to her own bubble.You could pick Pat up and stick her with any group of characters and it would work. She didn't have to be the main focus of a storyline either, she was a good mediator and a good tool to move plots on.

Pat would dish out hugs and thick ears to those who deserved it, sometimes she'd do both at once. She wasn't perfect and didn't act like she was either. Her life experiences make her such a good agony aunt too.

I loved Pat and I think the show is still suffering from losing her. There is no doubt in my mind that killing Pat off when they did was the worst decision in the whole history of EastEnders.
This. I can still see her on the square now being involved with Deans rape SL since they're relatives by some typical EE fashion, aswell as other things like comforting Ian over Lucy and with Kathy now she's back.
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Old 13-11-2015, 19:58
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Pat was one of the legends. She had been there for 25 years and she was a proper matriarch. I wish Pat never died
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:00
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Now you're just on the wind up..
Yep. I can't see Shirley becoming the new Pat . But I can see Kathy becoming the matriarch of Albert Square
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:02
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**spits kirkwood spits**
Killing off Pat is arguably soap's biggest mistake.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:04
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**spits kirkwood spits**
Killing off Pat is arguably soap's biggest mistake.
I agree with you there sorcha
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:06
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**spits kirkwood spits**
Killing off Pat is arguably soap's biggest mistake.
I agree with this. I felt so sad for Pam when I heard that the producers promised her that they wouldn't kill off Pat but they broke their promises and decided to kill off Pat
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:17
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Oh no you didn't!! What fresh hell is this thread?
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:18
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Is this the worst thread to ever be made on the soap forum?
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:19
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Oh no you didn't!! What fresh hell is this thread?
Well apparently shirley is replacing Pat so I'm assuming a wind up
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:19
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Angie was only in the show three years, viewers may have seen her differently if she had been in the show for decades. Pauline was a good character, but she was more restricted to her own bubble.You could pick Pat up and stick her with any group of characters and it would work. She didn't have to be the main focus of a storyline either, she was a good mediator and a good tool to move plots on.

Pat would dish out hugs and thick ears to those who deserved it, sometimes she'd do both at once. She wasn't perfect and didn't act like she was either. Her life experiences make her such a good agony aunt too.

I loved Pat and I think the show is still suffering from losing her. There is no doubt in my mind that killing Pat off when they did was the worst decision in the whole history of EastEnders.
Agree with all this. Especially the evaluations of Angie and Pauline as somewhat defined characters while Pat was more flexible.

I loved all three characters. Angie was great but more than the others, had played out her storyline by the time she left. (She was a more inward focused type of person.) Once the storyline was played out she could leave and I didn't miss her as such as she had played her part and left.

Pat should never have been killed off as she could easily slip back in and play also sorts of 'roles' in a range of storylines and viewers who watched in the 1980s would have a familar face to recognise when that happened.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:20
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Oh no you didn't!! What fresh hell is this thread?
I just think don't think she is as anywhere near as good as Pauline.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:21
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Well apparently shirley is replacing Pat so I'm assuming a wind up
This is posted by a Kate ford fan, she has fans? we should be helping her not judging her on totally misguided opinions... And before anyone has a go, it's a joke.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:22
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Well apparently shirley is replacing Pat so I'm assuming a wind up
Pat is just a third rate Elsie Tanner. Now she was a true soap icon.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:24
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Pat was extra special for all sorts of reasons. She had this wonderful relationship with Janine, she was related to some great characters, not least David She had a cracking sense of humour (unlike the other two you mentioned), she was sexy, bawdy, loved a drink and had a heart bigger than any other character I can think of. Of course she was also a bitch of the highest order. And let's not forget she had style with a capital S.
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:26
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Pat is just a third rate Elsie Tanner. Now she was a true soap icon.
Ah if you're going to do this pick a less obvious username
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Old 13-11-2015, 20:28
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Pat is just a third rate Elsie Tanner. Now she was a true soap icon.
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