After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).
Gatiss for Showrunner
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Originally Posted by Bej:
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
I don't think Gatiss should be a showrunner but make standalone or just episodes here and there for doctor who series'
Absolutely not. You're insane. He's written one good episode out of I don't know how many.
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?
Originally Posted by Bend Sinister:
“Absolutely not. You're insane. He's written one good episode out of I don't know how many.
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?”
“Absolutely not. You're insane. He's written one good episode out of I don't know how many.
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?”
Exactly lots of people after seeing one good written episode from one writter instantly say This Dude/Dudette for showrunner when they might not have consistent writting or might not be used to it, it takes a lot of thought.
Are you joking? The whole episode ended up a pale space rip-off of Moffat's "corner of your eye" concept, with no real resolution, and an ending only an 8-year-old could find convincing.
no thanks
PC/jenna were good, the script decent..........but Gatiss would make a lousy showrunner imo.
PC/jenna were good, the script decent..........but Gatiss would make a lousy showrunner imo.
Gatiss hasn't made one good episode. The only one which even comes close is Cold War and the main attraction in that is the return of the Ice Warriors.
Originally Posted by Bend Sinister:
“Absolutely not. You're insane. He's written one good episode out of I don't know how many.
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?”
“Absolutely not. You're insane. He's written one good episode out of I don't know how many.
Fan does NOT necessarily equal good writer - when will people realise this!!?!?!?!?”
I think he's entitled to his opinion. I'm not a huge fan of Gatiss' Who myself (though I found tonight's episode to be above his usual quality) but if the guy thinks he'd make a good showrunner, then he thinks he'd be a good showrunner.
So much hostility over people liking something others don't. Do some of you really feel that threatened by people enjoying an episode of Doctor Who?
Tonight was bad. Gatiss has written two good episodes in my opinion - The Unquiet Dead and The Crimson Horror. The rest have been forgettable and peak at average. Certainly not an episode history I would want a potential show runner to have.
I think he's to busy to take on the job, he does many different things, but if I had the choice of a series 10 done by Gatiss or Moffat then I would go with Gatiss in a heart beat.
Crimson Horror was the best episode of S7 imo.
Crimson Horror was the best episode of S7 imo.
Originally Posted by Bej:
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
You have GOT to be kidding. This was hands down the worst f'ing episode of Doctor Who I've seen in years. Incoherent, inconsistent and totally nonsensical. This is 1986 bad. All that's missing is a set of twins...we got the chop-ending, just like poor old Colin.
Gatiss had "The Unquiet Dead." That's it. Everything else he's written has been geometrically worse than the last. This...is a new low.
Capaldi deserves better than this. Gatiss and Moffat should just do Sherlock and leave Doctor Who to someone new.
LOL!!!
The funny thing is, a lot of 'casual' fans DO believe Gattis is one of the best writers. My assumption is that it's mainly because of his relative fame and visibility compared to the other writers and the affection he's accumulated from that.
He is a terrible writer and I honestly say that with no malice. I always think he seems like a nice guy to know: interesting, passionate about what he does, knowledgeable, personable... I like him and would like him to be a good writer... but he isn't. At this point I just accept it. He'll be there come what may. He may even be the next showrunner, who knows. Just go into his episodes with low expectations.
The funny thing is, a lot of 'casual' fans DO believe Gattis is one of the best writers. My assumption is that it's mainly because of his relative fame and visibility compared to the other writers and the affection he's accumulated from that.
He is a terrible writer and I honestly say that with no malice. I always think he seems like a nice guy to know: interesting, passionate about what he does, knowledgeable, personable... I like him and would like him to be a good writer... but he isn't. At this point I just accept it. He'll be there come what may. He may even be the next showrunner, who knows. Just go into his episodes with low expectations.
Only if his own stories are limited to one or two per series.
As he seems to be doing a decent job with Sherlock as a co-showrunner.
As he seems to be doing a decent job with Sherlock as a co-showrunner.
Originally Posted by W._O._Frobozz:
“You have GOT to be kidding. This was hands down the worst f'ing episode of Doctor Who I've seen in years. Incoherent, inconsistent and totally nonsensical. This is 1986 bad. All that's missing is a set of twins...we got the chop-ending, just like poor old Colin.
Gatiss had "The Unquiet Dead." That's it. Everything else he's written has been geometrically worse than the last. This...is a new low.
Capaldi deserves better than this. Gatiss and Moffat should just do Sherlock and leave Doctor Who to someone new.”
“You have GOT to be kidding. This was hands down the worst f'ing episode of Doctor Who I've seen in years. Incoherent, inconsistent and totally nonsensical. This is 1986 bad. All that's missing is a set of twins...we got the chop-ending, just like poor old Colin.
Gatiss had "The Unquiet Dead." That's it. Everything else he's written has been geometrically worse than the last. This...is a new low.
Capaldi deserves better than this. Gatiss and Moffat should just do Sherlock and leave Doctor Who to someone new.”
Yeah but Moffat can't admit that hes been pumped dry as a showrunner and his arcs aren't as innovative like Series 5, which I loved imo and Series 6
Originally Posted by Brandon_Smith:
“Yeah but Moffat can't admit that hes been pumped dry as a showrunner and his arcs aren't as innovative like Series 5, which I loved imo and Series 6”
“Yeah but Moffat can't admit that hes been pumped dry as a showrunner and his arcs aren't as innovative like Series 5, which I loved imo and Series 6”
Oh, I see what you've done there: you've turned a thread about Mark Gatiss into one about how terrible Moffat is. Nice one. No-one will see through that.
Originally Posted by Isambard Brunel:
“Anyone who says even one of Gattis's episodes are rubbish is homophobic.
Especially this one.”
“Anyone who says even one of Gattis's episodes are rubbish is homophobic.
Especially this one.”
Ha, very funny.
Originally Posted by LivingDestiny:
“Tonight was bad. Gatiss has written two good episodes in my opinion - The Unquiet Dead and The Crimson Horror. The rest have been forgettable and peak at average. Certainly not an episode history I would want a potential show runner to have.”
“Tonight was bad. Gatiss has written two good episodes in my opinion - The Unquiet Dead and The Crimson Horror. The rest have been forgettable and peak at average. Certainly not an episode history I would want a potential show runner to have.”
As usually mentioned by myself at this point in these threads, RTD has publicly said he wrote the final draft of The Unquiet Dead.
In any case, if Gatiss wanted to be producer of Dr Who, there likely would have been rumours to that end for years and there haven't been, ergo I don't believe he does.
Originally Posted by Brandon_Smith:
“I wanna see Patrick Ness' Style of writing for Doctor Who I feel like he'd be a good showrunner”
“I wanna see Patrick Ness' Style of writing for Doctor Who I feel like he'd be a good showrunner”
I wonder if this is the plan. Allow Ness to showrun Class and then transfer to Who when the time is right.
Originally Posted by Bej:
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
“After the best episode in many years Gatiss deserves the job of show runner. No one else comes close in terms of episode quality (including Moffat and RTD).”
I agree it was the best episode this series so far...but I think when the time comes to replace Moffat it should be someone totally unconnected.
It was the best episode partly because all the others were sub-par.
Still, it gives hope that the series can now move onwards and upwards. Save the best for last.
Still, it gives hope that the series can now move onwards and upwards. Save the best for last.
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