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Doctor Who S9E10: Face The Raven BBC1/HD. 21/11/2015 20:10. Official Thread
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tiggerpooh
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by Ber:
“I missed the full scene as the pizza man arrived at that time ”

Oh, so you had Pizza last weekend?

I had fish and chips that night. In fact, I make every Saturday fish and chip night.

Fish and chips tonight!

Koquillion
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
“Oh, so you had Pizza last weekend?

I had fish and chips that night. In fact, I make every Saturday fish and chip night.

Fish and chips tonight!

”

Clara also had her chips on Saturday, and there was something fishy about it...
bennythedip
28-11-2015
Re watching this morning. At the start they are supposed to be in london yet its so obvious they are in Cardiff. Pees me off that.
Pull2Open
28-11-2015
Have just had a rewatch and think about the lack of emotional response/action from the Doctor regarding Clara's death, the lead up to it and the actual event. People are suspicious of the death due to the Doctor's calm, matter of fact and seemingly knowing demeanor

I think the death is genuine and final and due to the Doctor's futile situation, there was very little he could do. He seemed resigned, rather than detached as that teleport device could not be removed, he was being taken regardless and his quiet warning to Ashildr was both very chilling and spoke volumes louder than any arm flapping anguish and despair.

I know Clara is in the finale but I think she is staying dead.

Sorry if all this has been said before!

I suppose time will tell.

Cant believe this series is almost over already.
Pull2Open
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by bennythedip:
“Re watching this morning. At the start they are supposed to be in london yet its so obvious they are in Cardiff. Pees me off that.”

Why? Its not like we don't know its filmed in Cardiff.
bennythedip
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pull2Open:
“Why? Its not like we don't know its filmed in Cardiff.”

Because it looks like it was filmed in Cardiff and not london They can film scenes this series in Tenerife but not London to make the scenes authentic its not as if they would have to travel far.
nebogipfel
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by bennythedip:
“Because it looks like it was filmed in Cardiff and not london They can film scenes this series in Tenerife but not London to make the scenes authentic its not as if they would have to travel far.”

It might not be far but it's still a cost and I bet Cardiff council charge a lot less than London authorities do. I thought they made it looked sufficiently London (a roadsign to Marble Arch! Must have cost a fortune!). The expense of making it 100% authentic probably not justified.

It was really only the search for Trap Street that was problematic, and I thought they did OK with it. It's probably only people who know Cardiff who really noticed. And Londoners who couldn't quite place where these places are in London. I know things such as red brick aren't typically London, but they tended to blur these thing or do fast edits.

I think if the hunt for Trap Street had been in some quite recognisably London places then, sure, we'd know it was London (Oxford St, Bishopsgate, Brick Lane, Chelsea, Piccadilly etc etc), but would it have justified the expense, given that it was just a few minutes? They had the flight over London to help blur the lines.

They're watching every penny on every episode and unless a scene absolutely has to be in a 100% certifiable London place (Trafalgar Square, Tower of London), they're just not going to spend out on it. Otherwise they'd end up not being able to go to Tenerife at all.
446.09375
28-11-2015
If he knows that Clara is all over his timeline, he should meet loads more of them in his future so the death of any given version of her isn't quite so bad
If "Clara" is in todays ep then it must be another instance of her?
Michael_Eve
28-11-2015
Well, I'm a Cardiffian and am very very used to going "Ha! There's 'such and such!" since 2005. I think they do very well generally, but certain stories like 'Face The Raven' and, um, random choice, 'The Runaway Bride' do make it obvious if you know the city. Bit biased, but it rather pleases me, actually. I do know the production team have an excellent, mutually beneficial relationship with Cardiff Council and the residents are always pleased to help, even when streets are closed, etc. ("It's for Doctor Who? That's fine. Butt." )
bennythedip
28-11-2015
Doesn't bother me at all where they film it but film it in Cardiff set the story in Cardiff don't say its London because its obvious it's not. The runaway bride yes a good example of that.
nebogipfel
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by bennythedip:
“Doesn't bother me at all where they film it but film it in Cardiff set the story in Cardiff don't say its London because its obvious it's not. The runaway bride yes a good example of that.”

I get your point now. Yes - they could have said it was Cardiff. It's not as if they've over used it in recent years. Or simply left it as an unnamed city. I wonder if they're worried about people rolling eyes if they explicitly say the episode is in Cardiff? You know - because we all know that's where they make the show. (i.e. they've dropped the 2005/Torchwood thing of featuring the place explicitly).

Possibly they thought the idea of a trap street hidden in a huge sprawling city like London more plausible than in a more compact place? London is notorious for its rabbit warren aspects and I think that is a pretty good justification. Or they simply wanted the Tardis flyover to be London (for the benefit of foreign audience)?

But I get your gist.
Daniel Dare
28-11-2015
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
“Oh, so you had Pizza last weekend?

I had fish and chips that night. In fact, I make every Saturday fish and chip night.

Fish and chips tonight!

”

No matter where I am in the world or with whom I'm with, baked beans on toast will forever remind me of An Unearthly Child.
It was November 1981 and I was at my Nan's place as my parents were away and my brother and I pleaded to watch the beginning of The Five Faces of Doctor Who (she was old school and rarely had the TV switched on) as we'd never seen it before and were so excited that the first ever episode of DW was about to be repeated!
We were served with beans on toast as we watched, gripped, my senses were on overload and thus BoT and AUC were forever cemented together.
I kept the affiliation to myself but years and years later I was happy to hear my brother later came out with the same thing!
Isambard Brunel
29-11-2015
Sorry if this has already been covered, but if you could pass the 'curse' on but not escape it all together, why didn't Rigsy die too?
Koquillion
29-11-2015
Originally Posted by Isambard Brunel:
“Sorry if this has already been covered, but if you could pass the 'curse' on but not escape it all together, why didn't Rigsy die too?”

The contract with The Raven was for one life, the person that had the tattoo when it reached zero.
Isambard Brunel
29-11-2015
Originally Posted by Koquillion:
“The contract with The Raven was for one life, the person that had the tattoo when it reached zero.”

But didn't it say the person who had it could pass it on but not escape it completely?
Koquillion
29-11-2015
Originally Posted by Isambard Brunel:
“But didn't it say the person who had it could pass it on but not escape it completely?”

No.'You can pass it on...But you can't cheat it altogether' is what was said. This referred to the terms of the contract itself, not the recipient of the tattoo.
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