I saw a story in the Sun a couple of weeks back saying that Anton had lied about being adopted I think it was? When I saw his reaction tonight to Nicks comments I instantly thought it was because of that story. People accused him of lying so therefore being called fake really annoyed him. I really do think he came across badly tonight and did himself no favours. If he wants to be a successful artist he needs to be able to take criticism and different opinions. He should go tonight.
Anton's reaction
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Well I'm not sure how I'd react being called fake by the vilest, brown noser in the industry either. This show is nothing but a joke and the way these 'judges' treat the acts isn't helping.
Originally Posted by D. Morgan:
“Well I'm not sure how I'd react being called fake by the vilest, brown noser in the industry either. This show is nothing but a joke and the way these 'judges' treat the acts isn't helping.”
“Well I'm not sure how I'd react being called fake by the vilest, brown noser in the industry either. This show is nothing but a joke and the way these 'judges' treat the acts isn't helping.”
Totally agree, Anton should've asked Nick if he plays Justin beiber on his radio show and once he said yes Anton could've replied "say no more about your credibility "
I don't think Nick actually provided constructive criticism really, yes Anton reacted badly but I found Nick particularly nasty.
He was following the script, the others didn't know what to say whenAnton challenged Nick as it wasn't in the script
I felt every sympathy for Anton right up to the point he started grovelling and apologizing to Nick over and again. Nick can slag him off and he should have a right to reply - so only wish Anton stuck to his guns and stood his ground.
I have liked Nick to a point on this show but that was snobbery of trying to be hip and trendy , it's not a case of whether you like Anton's type of music or not it's nicks assumption if it's not the type of music on radio 1 then it has no place . There's other stations that cater for other tastes which loads of people listen to
Originally Posted by Getridofcole:
“Totally agree, Anton should've asked Nick if he plays Justin beiber on his radio show and once he said yes Anton could've replied "say no more about your credibility "”
“Totally agree, Anton should've asked Nick if he plays Justin beiber on his radio show and once he said yes Anton could've replied "say no more about your credibility "”
Why wouldn't a contemporary radio show play a contemporary and popular artist?
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“Why wouldn't a contemporary radio show play a contemporary and popular artist?”
“Why wouldn't a contemporary radio show play a contemporary and popular artist?”
Exactly what I was thinking...I mean Justin Bieber is relevant and contemporary, exactly what Nick said Anton was not... Which is true...
In that case they need to ban anyone over 35 from auditioning for X Factor.
Any contestant over this age that gets to the live shows is fighting a losing battle from the off.
The public might vote for them, but they sure as hell won't buy their music. I didn't see the interaction between Nick and Anton so not sure how it came across. As an artist, Anton would cater more to the Radio 2 audience which is fine.
If the judges think it's a problem then they need to scrap older people from entering to ensure all contestants on the live shows are all younger and appeal more to the younger audience.
Any contestant over this age that gets to the live shows is fighting a losing battle from the off.
The public might vote for them, but they sure as hell won't buy their music. I didn't see the interaction between Nick and Anton so not sure how it came across. As an artist, Anton would cater more to the Radio 2 audience which is fine.
If the judges think it's a problem then they need to scrap older people from entering to ensure all contestants on the live shows are all younger and appeal more to the younger audience.
Nick's radio show is not the only show fgs. Radio 2 has more listeners. So I agree with what Simon said. To judge an act on what Nick would play on radio 1 is neither here nor there
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“Nick's radio show is not the only show fgs. Radio 2 has more listeners. So I agree with what Simon said. To judge an act on what Nick would play on radio 1 is neither here nor there”
“Nick's radio show is not the only show fgs. Radio 2 has more listeners. So I agree with what Simon said. To judge an act on what Nick would play on radio 1 is neither here nor there”
But people who listen to Radio 2 tend not to buy music, those who listen to Radio 1 do.
Let's not pretend suddenly the link between songs played on Radio 1 and things that chart was something Nick just invented tonight. Of course there will always be exceptions but pretty much there's a constant and strong link between singles that sell and the Radio 1 playlist. Always has been.
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“But people who listen to Radio 2 tend not to buy music, those who listen to Radio 1 do.
Let's not pretend suddenly the link between songs played on Radio 1 and things that chart was something Nick just invented tonight. Of course there will always be exceptions but pretty much there's a constant and strong link between singles that sell and the Radio 1 playlist. Always has been.”
“But people who listen to Radio 2 tend not to buy music, those who listen to Radio 1 do.
Let's not pretend suddenly the link between songs played on Radio 1 and things that chart was something Nick just invented tonight. Of course there will always be exceptions but pretty much there's a constant and strong link between singles that sell and the Radio 1 playlist. Always has been.”
I disagree. People who listen to Radio 2 plus other stations like Kiss, Heart etc do buy music. Radio 1 is not the be all and and end all of music!
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“In that case they need to ban anyone over 35 from auditioning for X Factor.
Any contestant over this age that gets to the live shows is fighting a losing battle from the off.
The public might vote for them, but they sure as hell won't buy their music. I didn't see the interaction between Nick and Anton so not sure how it came across. As an artist, Anton would cater more to the Radio 2 audience which is fine.
If the judges think it's a problem then they need to scrap older people from entering to ensure all contestants on the live shows are all younger and appeal more to the younger audience.”
“In that case they need to ban anyone over 35 from auditioning for X Factor.
Any contestant over this age that gets to the live shows is fighting a losing battle from the off.
The public might vote for them, but they sure as hell won't buy their music. I didn't see the interaction between Nick and Anton so not sure how it came across. As an artist, Anton would cater more to the Radio 2 audience which is fine.
If the judges think it's a problem then they need to scrap older people from entering to ensure all contestants on the live shows are all younger and appeal more to the younger audience.”
It's not so much age though...its the songs and style of his music that makes incredibly dated....you can be old and not be dated, and you can also be young and dated...
Nick was giving his opinion which he was entitled to do and let's face it, he was saying what everyone thinks. Makes a change to hear a judge actually be honest and frank. No radio station is ever going to play bloody Anton for god sake. It's a difficult one though because as much as I agree with what Nick said, I think Anton got angry because maybe he can see they want rid of him. All of these acts are kissing arse and toeing the party line, but every single one of them knows that to do well you have to play the show as much as the show plays you. If they don't like you they will try to get rid of you. It's a bit like an obstacle course. I think Nick did go to far with the fake comment, but I think what he meant was that Anton's emotion during his performances is a bit too much and over the top...I think his comments came out the wrong way. Anyway, either way, I agree with Nick's comments...very frank, but very true.
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“I disagree. People who listen to Radio 2 plus other stations like Kiss, Heart etc do buy music. Radio 1 is not the be all and and end all of music!”
“I disagree. People who listen to Radio 2 plus other stations like Kiss, Heart etc do buy music. Radio 1 is not the be all and and end all of music!”
I didn't say it's the be all and end all of music, I said there's a very strong link between the Radio 1 playlist and what charts. And there is, that's a fact.
I'm not a fan of Radio 1 myself it's simply undeniable that they're by far the most influential station when it comes to what charts.
I disagreed with Nick's comments. I would buy Anton's dvd and would pay to see him live. He has a unique voice in my opinion.
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“I didn't say it's the be all and end all of music, I said there's a very strong link between the Radio 1 playlist and what charts. And there is, that's a fact.
I'm not a fan of Radio 1 myself it's simply undeniable that they're by far the most influential station when it comes to what charts.”
“I didn't say it's the be all and end all of music, I said there's a very strong link between the Radio 1 playlist and what charts. And there is, that's a fact.
I'm not a fan of Radio 1 myself it's simply undeniable that they're by far the most influential station when it comes to what charts.”
But what about certain artists they - Radio 1 - have refused to play, yet have gone on to achieve massive sales.
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“Why wouldn't a contemporary radio show play a contemporary and popular artist?”
“Why wouldn't a contemporary radio show play a contemporary and popular artist?”
Because beiber is a complete joke of an artist
Originally Posted by Getridofcole:
“Because beiber is a complete joke of an artist”
“Because beiber is a complete joke of an artist”
But he is contemporary and relevant which was the point of Nick's criticism...and that is your opinion... And I don't even like Justin Bieber
Originally Posted by redcherry:
“But what about certain artists they - Radio 1 - have refused to play, yet have gone on to achieve massive sales.”
“But what about certain artists they - Radio 1 - have refused to play, yet have gone on to achieve massive sales.”
I acknowledged there are exceptions but they're usually long-established artists. I'm not sure there are many new comers over the years who have achieved great success in terms of singles charting without Radio 1's help. A few maybe but certainly the vast, vast, vast majority of artists who have singles who chart are 'Radio 1' artists, and that's even more the case with new artists.
If you're Madonna or someone you don't need Radio 1. If you've got a new single out you want young people to buy, you probably do.
There's the 'mum's at Christmas' market of course, but that's not terribly ambitious for the show.
Originally Posted by Getridofcole:
“Because beiber is a complete joke of an artist”
“Because beiber is a complete joke of an artist”
What difference does that make to anything?
He's contemporary and popular. It's a national radio station show not 'Nick takes a boy back to his room and puts on his favourite songs to listen to'
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“I acknowledged there are exceptions but they're usually long-established artists. I'm not sure there are many new comers over the years who have achieved great success in terms of singles charting without Radio 1's help. A few maybe but certainly the vast, vast, vast majority of artists who have singles who chart are 'Radio 1' artists, and that's even more the case with new artists.
If you're Madonna or someone you don't need Radio 1. If you've got a new single out you want young people to buy, you probably do.
There's the 'mum's at Christmas' market of course, but that's not terribly ambitious for the show.”
“I acknowledged there are exceptions but they're usually long-established artists. I'm not sure there are many new comers over the years who have achieved great success in terms of singles charting without Radio 1's help. A few maybe but certainly the vast, vast, vast majority of artists who have singles who chart are 'Radio 1' artists, and that's even more the case with new artists.
If you're Madonna or someone you don't need Radio 1. If you've got a new single out you want young people to buy, you probably do.
There's the 'mum's at Christmas' market of course, but that's not terribly ambitious for the show.”
You are focusing on the singles chart but the album chart is more important. Many of these people with number one singles sell little albums whereas a lot of the radio 2 artists have number one albums. Elvis beat little mix to number one on the album chart last week. Radio 2 seems to be key to longevity whereas radio one is for flash in the pan artists.
I was shocked by nicks comment. He saved anton last week over an act who writes their own songs and then complains that anton isn't relevant as an artist and won't make it in the real world basically
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