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Anton's reaction
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trevor tiger
22-11-2015
I actually agreed with the overall meaning of Nick's criticism though to be fair as Simon pointed out there are plenty of radio stations out there and I'm sure there is one for Anton. However I just don't think there's a place for him in today's music industry which is what Nick was getting at.

I think the OP is right in that Anton's over the top defensiveness was about being called fake in the press and so on. Sadly it probably just reminded everyone of that. I find Anton impossible to warm to or like. He is far too desperate and I really wanted him to go tonight as I find it hard to watch him.

As for him turning on Nick I thought Nick reacted really well accepting his apology and not making it a big deal in the end.
Dave0893
22-11-2015
I don't understand the criticism of Nick's comments, I didn't hear him call Anton fake just said he couldn't see him on the radio or that he would buy his album (this has been said to loads of contestants in the past).

The part that seems to wind Anton up was being called 'fake' yet Nick never said he was fake, didn't even use the word all he said was he felt his voice was 'technical' ie lacking emotion and something didn't feel real or raw enough, which I took to mean that the emotion he was trying to convey wasn't coming across genuine.
IsThisHappiness
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dave0893:
“I don't understand the criticism of Nick's comments, I didn't hear him call Anton fake just said he couldn't see him on the radio or that he would buy his album (this has been said to loads of contestants in the past).

The part that seems to wind Anton up was being called 'fake' yet Nick never said he was fake, didn't even use the word all he said was he felt his voice was 'technical' ie lacking emotion and something didn't feel real or raw enough, which I took to mean that the emotion he was trying to convey wasn't coming across genuine.”

He said "there is something that i still feel is an act about you, nothing real or genuine" or something along those lines.
james_von05
22-11-2015
What Nick was saying... his emotion when singing coming across like not genuine... it was Anton who reacted violently...
As far as I am concern he need to go tomorrow
All Of Me
22-11-2015
Well I didn't feel any emotion from the other singers tonight.
Winchester Lady
22-11-2015
Dave0893, you are right. Nick did not say the word "fake". He said it was something of an "act". He also did not specify Radio 1 - he said "radio", as he repeated to Simon. I thought his comments were perfectly reasonable and Anton's reaction showed how defensive he is, now that the truth about his "adoption" has come out. I have been surprised that the leaked voting figures show Anton in the lead as his voice is not distinctive to me, his way of singing is bland and I find him unattractive to watch.
Kenneth_Chow
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Winchester Lady:
“Dave0893, you are right. Nick did not say the word "fake". He said it was something of an "act". He also did not specify Radio 1 - he said "radio", as he repeated to Simon. I thought his comments were perfectly reasonable and Anton's reaction showed how defensive he is, now that the truth about his "adoption" has come out. I have been surprised that the leaked voting figures show Anton in the lead as his voice is not distinctive to me, his way of singing is bland and I find him unattractive to watch.”

Who says he is leading now????...he was in the bottom 3 last week...
NicoleRich
22-11-2015
You can see Cheryl and Simon getting uncomfortable as it goes on.

https://youtu.be/gcTzhrqD_t0
tuesday
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“What Nick was saying... his emotion when singing coming across like not genuine... it was Anton who reacted violently...
As far as I am concern he need to go tomorrow”

Really, that is a bit of exaggeration, he reacted with passion. Nick said he lack emotion throughout performance and only showed after he finished singing.

Anton through out this process has be told that he is too expressive. Anton live performances have never bettered the ones in the auditions up to and including judges houses. Imo that is the fault of Simon not being a good mentor.

Since then Anton has done everything that his mentor has asked and took on board the other judges critiques. Anton did show emotion through out his performance but held back a lot. Anton turned his back to released the excess emotion when Nick clearly made his remark about 'its so weird' indicating at Anton that he showed emotion after he had finish singing and imo Anton was right to feel aggrieved and to clarify that point.

Anton was neither violent or aggressive just passionate and disappointed that Nick felt that his singing wouldn't be good enough to be played to Nick radio one audience. Acts like Josh Groban, Micheal Bublé and many more have made without the help of radio one air play.

Nick imo should stick to his daytime job and stop faking it as a judge.
InMyArms
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by NicoleRich:
“You can see Cheryl and Simon getting uncomfortable as it goes on.

https://youtu.be/gcTzhrqD_t0”

Simon loved it, he was picturing the "X Factor meltdown" headlines to promote the show. This outburst could save Anton when it comes to the bottom two.
Xad
22-11-2015
Anyone who think's Anton isn't putting on a fake front is blind. It's all blatantly an act done in order to stand out and be memorable even after the show is over.

He's most likely going tomorrow.
pugamo
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by wise-up:
“You are focusing on the singles chart but the album chart is more important. Many of these people with number one singles sell little albums whereas a lot of the radio 2 artists have number one albums. Elvis beat little mix to number one on the album chart last week. Radio 2 seems to be key to longevity whereas radio one is for flash in the pan artists.

I was shocked by nicks comment. He saved anton last week over an act who writes their own songs and then complains that anton isn't relevant as an artist and won't make it in the real world basically
”

And how is Anton going to sell albums if he cant establish a fan base because no radio show will play his singles?
mark e a
22-11-2015
Anton looked and sounded stroppy because he knows there's a reason why he's only ever been a backing singer. He's lucky he's in Simon's category, cos if he wasn't Mr Cowell would have ripped him to shreds tonight.
sgeandhu
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“In that case they need to ban anyone over 35 from auditioning for X Factor.

Any contestant over this age that gets to the live shows is fighting a losing battle from the off.

The public might vote for them, but they sure as hell won't buy their music. I didn't see the interaction between Nick and Anton so not sure how it came across. As an artist, Anton would cater more to the Radio 2 audience which is fine.

If the judges think it's a problem then they need to scrap older people from entering to ensure all contestants on the live shows are all younger and appeal more to the younger audience.”

I wish the music industry would stop pandering to the teenies and tweenies. Despite all the hype it is still the over-35s who are the biggest market.
sgeandhu
22-11-2015
PS I think I too would have reacted to someone as irrelevant as Nick Grimshaw - hecbribgs the square root of fekk all in terms if musical opinion.
davejc64
22-11-2015
Anton has way more talent than 'perfect face for radio' Grimshaw could ever dream of, if anyone should be apologising he should be him not Anton, oh well he got payback by losing his act Mason Noise! ROFL!
Exmrs
22-11-2015
How is anton going to react if he booted off with the fewest votes?
goonernatalie
22-11-2015
If he is in the bottom 2 he will be voted off
davejc64
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by goonernatalie:
“If he is in the bottom 2 he will be voted off”

I expect we may find out later.
goonernatalie
22-11-2015
I like Anton so am hoping he is safe
Nosaer
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“Anton has way more talent than 'perfect face for radio' Grimshaw could ever dream of, if anyone should be apologising he should be him not Anton, oh well he got payback by losing his act Mason Noise! ROFL!”

Yeah, the 'visionary' Mason Noise hahahaha!
madiain28
22-11-2015
No matter how Nick's comments were said the truth is that Anton generally wouldn't be played on any of the popular mainstream Radio stations. His appeal would be to a limited audience. The way the music industry has changed means that most money is generated through merchandising and concerts. Yes you will get a few exceptional artists like Adele who will have massive worldwide success without touring but they are an exception in today's market.
Anton doesn't have enough appeal or likability factor to break through to mass market. The fact he's all ready been in the bottom two and the declining interest in Xfactor as a whole means any artist that wins really has to have something extra to make it.
I've never been a fan of 1 Direction however they ticked all the boxes to be successful. Leona Lewis had a fantastic voice during the show and hugely successful career launch but if you looked back a lot of people pointed out about her lack of personality. And whist the initial success was huge it didn't stop her second album having a 70% drop in sales. And come her latest release as much as fans raved about her vocals mass interest wasn't there.
If you look back over the past winners the majority had 1 hit album and quickly diminished. Part of the problem is people who vote on the show aren't always the people who then buy music. Yes novelty factor of buying the winners single or first solo album but by the following year they are back to watching and voting on a new round of contestants and last years winner is old news.
I didn't find Nick,s comments harsh but actually reality of the music industry. Personally I can't stand him but what he said was truthful Anton would never sell out Arena's or have huge sales.
Hitstastic
22-11-2015
I have a gut feeling Anton will end up 4th in the voting, so instead it could be any of Che, Lauren or possibly 4th Impact in the bottom 2 tonight.

I just watched that clip of what happened and I really can't tell if Nick struck a nerve that riled Anton, or whether he's just a bit too sensitive to take harsh criticism. If it's the latter, then he should've remained a backing singer because if he were to win, he'll have many critics giving him a hard time. Would Anton rather have Nick giving his honest, but negative, comments, or release an album in 2016 that is unanimously slated by critics as the worst album ever recorded with widespread 0/5 or 1/5 reviews, and the sheepish public just following the trail left by the media.
D. Morgan
22-11-2015
They shouldn't have put him through if he'll never play on the radio. He really does look really stressed out and hurt by the whole experience. I'm hoping he gets through this week and goes out on a better note next week.
Blondie X
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“And how is Anton going to sell albums if he cant establish a fan base because no radio show will play his singles?”

Plenty of artists sell albums and sell out gigs without being played on commercial radio.

People who are not into mainstream pop will often seek out artists or go through word of mouth recommendations to find good music.

Though I'm not sure that will happen to Anton tbh. He's definitely being pitched at the 'covers album for mothers day' market.

He'd actually make a better living doing vocals for dance tracks or being happy as a touring backing vocalist.
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