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Tony_Daniels
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“Plenty of artists sell albums and sell out gigs without being played on commercial radio. ”

Established artists, yes.

A new artist? I'm not sure there's very many examples of that happening at all. If you're seeing someone not on the R1 playlist, or indeed of the playlist of any comparable commercial station, scale the singles charts it's usually someone already very established like Madonna or Robbie WIlliams or David Bowie.

Even for an exceptional artist to manage to overcome that and have singles that are successful and sell well it's incredibly difficult. I don't think Anton is even arguably close to standing a chance.

He may well appeal to the 'mum's at Christmas' market, as I said, who'd probably buy a medley of Christmas covers (or have it bought for them as a present) so he might stand the chance of getting one decently charting album but without 'contemporary' radio's help he isn't getting any individual songs to significant heights in the singles charts.
ICON111
22-11-2015
He seems unstable. I now see why he hasn't made it in the industry. He is not resilient and appears weak. I hate how he performs, he makes me uncomfortable. He also seems to think the world owes him something.
Liete
22-11-2015
I don't know what Nick was talking about.

Anton has the potential to be as big as Sam Bailey.
Blondie X
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“Established artists, yes.

A new artist? I'm not sure there's very many examples of that happening at all. If you're seeing someone not on the R1 playlist, or indeed of the playlist of any comparable commercial station, scale the singles charts it's usually someone already very established like Madonna or Robbie WIlliams or David Bowie.

Even for an exceptional artist to manage to overcome that and have singles that are successful and sell well it's incredibly difficult. I don't think Anton is even arguably close to standing a chance.

He may well appeal to the 'mum's at Christmas' market, as I said, who'd probably buy a medley of Christmas covers (or have it bought for them as a present) so he might stand the chance of getting one decently charting album but without 'contemporary' radio's help he isn't getting any individual songs to significant heights in the singles charts.”

No, not just established artists but there is more to being a successful artist than the charts.

I would say that every artist I've seen perform or purchased an album from in the last few years are all new UK acts who are selling music and gig tickets by word of mouth.
Ok, we're not talking The O2 but plenty of artists many of never heard of have sell out gigs at places like Jazz Cafe, IndigO2, 100 Club and other smaller venues.

There are loads of specialist radio stations and charts full of artists who are making a career in the music industry without touching radio one or the top 40.

Though, I'm sure Anton doesn't fall into this category however.
Amaretto2
22-11-2015
They should have got rid of him last week when they had the chance.

He has given 4 bad performances since the live shows started and comes across as disturbingly desperate and a bit unhinged.

I can see him pulling a Rachel Crow if he goes tonight. I hope Olly and Caroline are prepared.
Blondie X
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Amaretto2:
“They should have got rid of him last week when they had the chance.

He has given 4 bad performances since the live shows started and comes across as disturbingly desperate and a bit unhinged.

I can see him pulling a Rachel Crow if he goes tonight. I hope Olly and Caroline are prepared.”

I agree. I absolutely loved his audition and thought he had the potential to be one of the best vocalists the show has ever seen.
Since the lives started, he's been an absolute car crash and it's becoming increasingly uncomfortable viewing watching him lose the plot on live tv.

I almost hope he does go stark raving mental tonight if he's voted out just to see mockney boy try and cope with his meltdown. Will it be even worse than Steve Jones?
Jocolah
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Liete:
“I don't know what Nick was talking about.

Anton has the potential to be as big as Sam Bailey.”

Yeah, and boy, she is really taking the charts by storm right now ... ahem!
Artois
22-11-2015
I've liked Anton since the auditions. His voice is effortless and because he sings my kind of songs (obvs not all about the bass) I really wanted him to do well. However that song last night should have worked well for him but was strangely muted. He is coming across as desperate and while I don't really agree with what Nick said he shouldn't have reacted like that - he seems on the edge..
It's such a shame as he has a God given talent. But I think he will go.
Jocolah
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Amaretto2:
“They should have got rid of him last week when they had the chance.

He has given 4 bad performances since the live shows started and comes across as disturbingly desperate and a bit unhinged.

I can see him pulling a Rachel Crow if he goes tonight. I hope Olly and Caroline are prepared.”

I noticed this right from the audition stage. So far, he has not been great in the lives and looks uncomfortable when performing. I agree with what Nick said.
Sweet7
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“No, not just established artists but there is more to being a successful artist than the charts.

I would say that every artist I've seen perform or purchased an album from in the last few years are all new UK acts who are selling music and gig tickets by word of mouth.
Ok, we're not talking The O2 but plenty of artists many of never heard of have sell out gigs at places like Jazz Cafe, IndigO2, 100 Club and other smaller venues.

There are loads of specialist radio stations and charts full of artists who are making a career in the music industry without touching radio one or the top 40.

Though, I'm sure Anton doesn't fall into this category however.”

But this is The X Factor. The whole point is to find the next big 'star' who is going to sell load of singles and albums. If they don't appeal to the right market who buy mass music then I don't really see the point. The Voice might be a better appeal.

Yes you could argue 'less successful' X Factor winners have gone on to do 'mum markets' or have more 'low key' careers...but when you look back at these types of winners ie. Sam Bailey, Shayne Ward, Joe McEldery, Ben Haenow - you kind of feel, well maybe it's a bit of a waste of time for so much to be invested in them.
Dave0893
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“He said "there is something that i still feel is an act about you, nothing real or genuine" or something along those lines.”

No here is what Nick said, exactly word for word,

Quote:
“Anton, here is what I think. I think you have a really solid, great voice and it feels great, it feels technical to me. I don't know if you're the kind of artist I'd want to, and this is only because the competition is getting so good now, I don't know if you're the kind of artist I'd want to listen to on the radio or buy the album.

There is something that I feel that still feels like an act to me, it doesn't feel like real or raw enough, I couldn't feel it.”

No where does he say 'an act about you, nothing real or genuine', he is clearly talking about the vocals and performance, Anton took it the wrong way.

Here is the video of the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTzhrqD_t0
IsThisHappiness
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dave0893:
“No here is what Nick said, exactly word for word,



No where does he say 'an act about you, nothing real or genuine', he is clearly talking about the vocals and performance, Anton took it the wrong way.

Here is the video of the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcTzhrqD_t0”

So, he still said he felt it was an act? Yeah?
I think Nick knew exactly what he was saying and good for Anton for standing up to him!
fext91
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“So, he still said he felt it was an act? Yeah?
I think Nick knew exactly what he was saying and good for Anton for standing up to him!”

you misunderstood it also then just like anton lol

what grimmy said was the performance feels like an "act" for him
aka. the emotion not real, no connection or something like that

what anton think is grimmy said he was like an "act"
aka. the person itself is fake
and he goes outrage

big diffrence between them
Dave0893
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“So, he still said he felt it was an act? Yeah?
I think Nick knew exactly what he was saying and good for Anton for standing up to him!”

He is critiquing the performance, that his is job, I find Anton too technical and don't feel like the emotion he conveys his real, it screams musical theatre to me. Nick imo was correct in what he said. It's too over the top, too thought about and and acted out, it isn't 'real' or 'raw' emotions.

Anton and you clearly are both taking it as a personal insult on Anton himself, which it wasn't. Nick never commented on Anton's character.

Nick did nothing wrong, and I am no Nick fan, and Anton showed his true colours.
Ibiza_Lad
22-11-2015
Nick was spot on, Anton's a silly little drama queen
GibsonSG
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Getridofcole:
“Totally agree, Anton should've asked Nick if he plays Justin beiber on his radio show and once he said yes Anton could've replied "say no more about your credibility "”

True but although I agree Anton did himself no favours, and was not very good last night, it is absurd to think that the viewers are the slightest bit interested in what Nick likes to listen to, and that would have annoyed me too.
GibsonSG
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Sweet7:
“But this is The X Factor. The whole point is to find the next big 'star' who is going to sell load of singles and albums. If they don't appeal to the right market who buy mass music then I don't really see the point. The Voice might be a better appeal.
”

Nah it's to find the person who has the X Factor. There are fewer successful winners of this program than there are successful contestants.
Poplife04
22-11-2015
Anton is one of the most vilest and fakest acts in the history of the show. Something not right about him.
All Of Me
22-11-2015
Anton would destroy any of the remaining acts in the sing off.
Mark-Anthony
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by All Of Me:
“Anton would destroy any of the remaining acts in the sing off.”

LOL no.
Mark-Anthony
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Poplife04:
“Anton is one of the most vilest and fakest acts in the history of the show. Something not right about him.”

Been saying the exact same thing all along and wondering when his facade would slip. And it did last night.
CaptainSensible
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by All Of Me:
“Anton would destroy any of the remaining acts in the sing off.”

I really don't think he would

I've just watched Anton's audition (first time I've seen it) and for some reason he's just not performing as well in the live shows
Blondie X
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by CaptainSensible:
“I really don't think he would

I've just watched Anton's audition (first time I've seen it) and for some reason he's just not performing as well in the live shows”

I don't know what has happened between the auditions, JH's, 6CC and lives but Anton has lost the ability to sing in tune and in time to the music.
His audition was stunning and he's now an absolute shambles.
Thiswillbefun
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Poplife04:
“Anton is one of the most vilest and fakest acts in the history of the show. Something not right about him.”

That's what Simon Cowell's gimp Dan Wooton started drip feeding to the public in The Sun a couple of weeks ago.

They've been repeating this "idea" for the last few weeks, which is why he reacted the way he did to Lick Grimsore last night. It's how the show brainwashes the public.
Thiswillbefun
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“No, not just established artists but there is more to being a successful artist than the charts.

I would say that every artist I've seen perform or purchased an album from in the last few years are all new UK acts who are selling music and gig tickets by word of mouth.
Ok, we're not talking The O2 but plenty of artists many of never heard of have sell out gigs at places like Jazz Cafe, IndigO2, 100 Club and other smaller venues.

There are loads of specialist radio stations and charts full of artists who are making a career in the music industry without touching radio one or the top 40. ”

Absolutely the best, and probably the most important, comment I've read all weekend!!!
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