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Is Clara really dead? (Theory)
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star89
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by egghead1:
“Why would maker of the show advertise that Clara is in the finale? Is it the DrWho magazine cover that people are referring to? Could just be a photo shoot why must it mean she is in another episode?”

She was seen filming, in that outfit (from the magazine cover.)

Moffat also confirmed that Clara will be seen - in some form - in the finale. (I forget where the interview is but it's linked on this forum somewhere)

EDIT - Found it - http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/c...o-exit-6874832
Turlough6789
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“Loved the Retcon reference (Torchwood).

Hated the use of Clara using US phrase "I'm good" instead of the UK expression "I'm fine"


Good is a statement of a philisophical state ie opposite of bad

Fine is a statement of wellbeing.

Several times in this series, they have pandered to the US (eg Zee instead of Zed for Z).

Dr Who is British series - do not contaminate it with Americanisms!”

I don't think Clara is actually Dead DEAD... I think this is the culmination of the story arc of OsWin, OsWald, OsGood.... What if Clara didn't just say "I'm good" but "I'm GOOD" ?
The_Judge_
22-11-2015
I think she's dead - well as much as anyone ever dies in this show

Would be fun if when the Doctor sent her to the TARDIS - she actually never came back out with Rigsys' phone, she just thinks she's dead, wouldn't be the first time the Doctor send his companion to the TARDIS so she escapes danger.

However, I think this time ..... well maybe she' still in a dream, whatever, for once I'm just going to go with it. She's leaving, if not in last nights episode then some point soon ..........
shortcrust
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“Loved the Retcon reference (Torchwood).

Hated the use of Clara using US phrase "I'm good" instead of the UK expression "I'm fine"


Good is a statement of a philisophical state ie opposite of bad

Fine is a statement of wellbeing.

Several times in this series, they have pandered to the US (eg Zee instead of Zed for Z).

Dr Who is British series - do not contaminate it with Americanisms!”

"I'm good" is in common usage in the UK now. I hear it all the time. Language changes. Keep up.
dave_windows
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by The_Judge_:
“I think she's dead - well as much as anyone ever dies in this show

Would be fun if when the Doctor sent her to the TARDIS - she actually never came back out with Rigsys' phone, she just thinks she's dead, wouldn't be the first time the Doctor send his companion to the TARDIS so she escapes danger.

However, I think this time ..... well maybe she' still in a dream, whatever, for once I'm just going to go with it. She's leaving, if not in last nights episode then some point soon ..........”

You do realise there is stll a clip in the trailer of her and the doctor on Galifrey,
Michael_Eve
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“You do realise there is stll a clip in the trailer of her and the doctor on Galifrey,”

Is there?! There is a painting of her, wherever the Doctor is, in the 'Hell Bent' trailer, but no Jenna herself that I've seen.
Koquillion
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Is there?! There is a painting of her, wherever the Doctor is, in the 'Hell Bent' trailer, but no Jenna herself that I've seen.”

Fort Boyard? If he meets a tiger, he will know what to do...thanks to Danny Pink!
Dan Sette
22-11-2015
Didn't Peter Capaldi on Graham Norton say that it was the end of Clara's journey with The Doctor. Wouldn't be drawn on the new companion though.
jimmya1
23-11-2015
She's not dead it was just a way for Ashildr to get the Doctor to go and kill her enemy for her
Stoo2907
23-11-2015
I think we will see one more 'splinter' of Clara in the finale saving the doctor, uttering her ' run you clever boy, and remember me' and reminding the doctor whether he sees her or not, she's always there saving him, would be a nice wee way of tying it up
Aslan52
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by 17@17:
“That thing was the lights. The strange little alien lights that altered your perceptions to see what you expected. How many people saw Clara die? Just the Doctor - everyone else merely heard it. What did the Doctor go out expecting to see? Her death. What did he see? Her death. But is it possible that something else happened? And he simply saw what he expected?”

That's not right.

As Clara went outside there were several people in the background who all saw her and appeared to know what was happening, judging by the expressions on their faces and the way one woman was dragging her kid away from Clara.

Of course, if the lights are able to mess with everybody's perceptions then maybe everybody believes what's going on with the raven when, in reality, a couple of Ishildr's henchmen are sneaking up behind the victim, hitting them over the head with a cricket bat and then carting them away to some prison somewhere.

When a story tells you that you can't actually believe what you see it becomes rather pointless if they're then going to show the audience things and then say "Aha! but you shouldn't have believed what you saw and something different really happened".
dave_windows
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Is there?! There is a painting of her, wherever the Doctor is, in the 'Hell Bent' trailer, but no Jenna herself that I've seen.”

In the series trailer that happened in september there was a clip of doctor and clara on gallifrey that hasent aired in the series yet.
caveatman
23-11-2015
Sorry, deleted post, put it in wrong thread.
Corwin
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“In the series trailer that happened in september there was a clip of doctor and clara on gallifrey that hasent aired in the series yet.”

Can you post a link to this trailer.

Can't recall any Gallifrey scenes.
sebbie3000
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by bennythedip:
“It's getting boring now. Rory's dead, then he's back, Missy is dead then she is back, osgood is dead then shes back, Clara's dead then she comes back. Just don't care either way anymore.”

The MAster is never dead, in any form. Never has been throughout the entire history of the show.

And Clara - do you know something about the remaining two episodes that we dont? Because you sound pretty sure she's still alive...
David Waine
23-11-2015
Clara didn't just die. She wasn't just killed. She was executed for a crime of which she was innocent, and which turned out not to have been committed anyway. Leaving it like that would be morally ambiguous to say the least. We are a third of the way through the series finale. More remains to be revealed, I am sure.
mrprosser
23-11-2015
One thing I can't figure out is why didn't the Doctor stick her in the stasis pod? It was right there, and 10 minutes earlier the Doctor said that it stops the passage of time for whoever is in it. They could have stuffed Clara in the pod with a minute to go. For her time would stand still and the counter would never hit zero.

The Doctor and Ashilda could then have plenty of time to work out how to fix the problem
Sara_Peplow
24-11-2015
Think he will find a way to change her fate. Even if it means stopping her meeting him in the first place.

We also get answers about what or who the "hybrid" is and what the doctor has on his confession dial.
Kromm
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Sara_Peplow:
“Think he will find a way to change her fate. Even if it means stopping her meeting him in the first place.

We also get answers about what or who the "hybrid" is and what the doctor has on his confession dial.”

He HAS to meet her to preserve his own timeline. He dies without her during The Impossible Girl thing.

But that same storyline saves her. Rather than that story having ever ended, the Clara we've been seeing has been just another shard, finally discarded. Somewhere there's a real Clara, who's only known the Doctor a much shorter time, alive to come back one last time and assure The Doctor that he didn't get a Companion killed. He finds that Clara.... and immediately lets her go. The end.
DarthGore
24-11-2015
so, one thing to add..... the phone ringing in the Tardis - the Doctor clearly knew when it started ringing that it was for Clara, I think he knew where it would take them and what would happen as the result.... you can see his face looking like "Oh here we go"

I wonder if the Doctor knows where he's going, he didn't seem to put up much of a struggle when he saw the teleporter bracelet, could it be the Time Lords who want to limit him for what he's done? could it lead to a new Trial of the Time Lord perhaps?
systemcv
24-11-2015
I'm increasingly thinking that Clara was the intended target all along.

We know that Ashildr has been watching Clara, so she would know exactly what scenario to set up to have Clara take the penalty away from Rigsy.

It was all very convenient, with Clara being given just the right information at the right time (from the guy in the street) and then, all of a sudden, the lock can not be removed because she "changed the contract" even though Ashildr would, apparently, have been able to remove it from Rigsy without any problem.

Killing Clara, gets the Doctor into a particular frame of mind immediately before he is teleported to wherever he has gone, which may well be what "they" want.
SepangBlue
24-11-2015
If Clara really is dead ... what a real shame - I liked her!

I don't read any trash mags or TV papers, but I would have thought there is going to be a Doctor Who Christmas special and if they were going to write out Clara, that would be the time to do it.

If I'm horribly behind the current Doctor Who news stories, then I apologise!
atheling
24-11-2015
Well she always dying isn't she? Didn't the Daleks exterminate her in episode one of this series?. I'm still not sure how she survived that. I suspect Missy has intervened again, she seems to be her protector. After all 'Death is for other people dear'
Fizzbin
25-11-2015
There's always Ashildr's spare Mire medical kit, not been used yet.
Alpha-Sun2
25-11-2015
She used it on Sam Swift.
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