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Old 24-12-2015, 20:22
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Yes to everything, specially the last two.

What bothers me the most is that It seems Chas is back to being her old selfish self, what a wasted storyline the stabbing and PTSD was then.

Oh and I hope Belle makes Joanie and Zak's life a living hell. blergh, hate them both.
I agree, she is back to normal now.
You could say that she got treatment, she is better now.
It is a shame.. real life is not like that.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:25
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Of course she does. Anyone can see how messed up Aaron has become since Gordon arrived, and he has clearly told Chas that he doesn't want Gordon around. He even just told her he would rather go back to rpison that be near Gordon. I mean what more does she need to realise there is an issue and Aaron is messed up at the moment? You don't then go and invite the source of the issue more into his life.
But this is the kind of thing Aaron would say, whether he meant it or not. Aaron is always so emotionally reactive it is difficult to tell what is a retort because of something deeper or just Aaron acting out, which although he's an adult he still is quite prone to do, at least on his immediate reactions until he's calmed down.

We also have the benefit of distance and a bigger picture. Chas probably sees this as an opportunity to try and bring son and dying father together as well as an emotional support for herself. With her own ptsd she will most likely have done some reflecting of her own, looking back at life and regrets. Aaron doesn't do himself any favours sometimes.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:29
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I agree, she is back to normal now.
You could say that she got treatment, she is better now.
It is a shame.. real life is not like that.
This probably needs more time to judge maybe. I think things could resurface as she finds out about Aaron. She will be doing her best to put things behind her at the moment, especially being Christmas.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:33
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I was meaning I wonder if his sister is really his daughter
Ah, misunderstood. Actually I would love it to take this route but I've more or less discounted this when Aaron said Sandra saw sense and left him in the ep the other day. It feels like his anger is directed purely at Gordon and he's not too bothered about Sandra one way or the other. I could be wrong though.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:36
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It's about Aaron and Gordon.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:50
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This probably needs more time to judge maybe. I think things could resurface as she finds out about Aaron. She will be doing her best to put things behind her at the moment, especially being Christmas.
I think it will come back again after the Aaron thing.

She must be trying to move on but it just looks like to me, she is back to normal.
My aunty has pstd, it is just that it took time for her to go back to normal.
She did get help.. sometimes still sees a counselor.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:50
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I think we will literally see everyone betray Aaron over the next few weeks. We know Gordon is no good, Chas will start seeing him and lie to him about stopping, he'll find out about Paddy cheating and then i think Robert will also do something. Basically everyone will lie to him or let him down in some way.
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Old 24-12-2015, 20:59
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At least we get Robert listening to Aaron when he finds out which I see as a huge step forward. He might still struggle to understand the self harm, but I don't think that is so unusual. He is so different to Aaron, that he hasn’t anything in his own make-up to help him relate; but he will be there for him I think.
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Old 24-12-2015, 21:33
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I see your point but see it a bit differently.Chas has a right to have her ex-husband there and I don't think she can be dictated to by Aaron.Aaron wouldn't stop seeing Robert when Chas was clearly hurt and upset by it
didn't invite him round for Christmas dinner though did he...
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Old 24-12-2015, 21:49
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I see your point but see it a bit differently.Chas has a right to have her ex-husband there and I don't think she can be dictated to by Aaron.Aaron wouldn't stop seeing Robert when Chas was clearly hurt and upset by it
No she resorts to threats like "i'll lock you in your room if I have to", making Aaron run off and nearly die of hypothermia.
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:23
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but she knows Aaron doesn't want him there and at the very least it'll ruin his Christmas and upset him he just made it quite clear he's rather go to prison than have him around, she is free to see him yes but she shouldn't be forcing him on Aaron.
But she isn't totally forcing him there.She can't always go his way although I see your point.Chas made it clear how he was affecting her when he was seeing Robert but he didn't stop
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:27
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But this is the kind of thing Aaron would say, whether he meant it or not. Aaron is always so emotionally reactive it is difficult to tell what is a retort because of something deeper or just Aaron acting out, which although he's an adult he still is quite prone to do, at least on his immediate reactions until he's calmed down.

We also have the benefit of distance and a bigger picture. Chas probably sees this as an opportunity to try and bring son and dying father together as well as an emotional support for herself. With her own ptsd she will most likely have done some reflecting of her own, looking back at life and regrets. Aaron doesn't do himself any favours sometimes.
This is the point I was trying to make-think you have worded it better though ! Also she feels guilty at abondoning Aaron years ago and Gordon looked after him-as far as she knows he did a good job.She loved him once and he has been ill so I think it's natural what she is doing having reflected on things,like you said.Especially at Christmas
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:35
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Have any of yous seen the spoiler anon about Robert not believing Aarons dark secret & they get into a fight

Very confused to where that's just come from.. hope it's not true
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:41
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Have any of yous seen the spoiler anon about Robert not believing Aarons dark secret & they get into a fight

Very confused to where that's just come from.. hope it's not true
Saw it on tumblr. I don't think it's true. If it is, I think ED will have a lot of pissed off people if they don't throw Aaron at least one lifeline or someone who believes him. How much can one person be battered down in life
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:48
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Saw it on tumblr. I don't think it's true. If it is, I think ED will have a lot of pissed off people if they don't throw Aaron at least one lifeline or someone who believes him. How much can one person be battered down in life
I don't believe it at all. Robert Will believe Aaron i am sure of it.
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:53
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It's one thing having faith in Robert... entirely different thing having faith in Emmerdale
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Old 24-12-2015, 22:57
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It's one thing having faith in Robert... entirely different thing having faith in Emmerdale
Lol true but i don't believe it still.
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:04
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Saw it on tumblr. I don't think it's true. If it is, I think ED will have a lot of pissed off people if they don't throw Aaron at least one lifeline or someone who believes him. How much can one person be battered down in life
Aaron.
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:10
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To be honest, I'm beginning to think the whole Aaron/Chas beach stuff won't be as nice as we think, or rather it might be but it won't be somewhat of a conclusion to the Gordon drama, but rather a calm before the storm. I don't know why. I just don't think Gordon will die so soon. And I feel like things will get even worse.

Think of the timeline. One week Aaron's in hospital, confiding in Robert, then these rumours that maybe Robert doubts Aaron, which I'd guess will happen the week after.. then suddenly, the week after Aaron and Chas are at the beach (if the stuff about that airing February 2nd are true).

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I feel like the beach might look like it's going to be an upside to it all but really, it's just a small light moment before it goes horrible again. I mean if people are in the dark over the Gordon stuff and Robert doubts him, then in typical soap fashion, it'd probably lead to something happening for them all to find out/realize it was true. So I'm worried it's going to go the way of things going even darker...

Dare I say, whatever this dark secret is... history repeating itself or at least maybe leading to it almost happening... I hope to god I'm wrong.
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:10
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No she resorts to threats like "i'll lock you in your room if I have to", making Aaron run off and nearly die of hypothermia.
That's just ridiculous though-it was one moment in desperation
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:13
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Robert knows Aaron doesn't lie easily and if he found him self-harming then he would know it has to be something deep inside Aaron that is hurting. Robert would believe Aaron. The only reason he would doubt him is if Aaron regrets telling him and makes him doubt. Even then I'm not sure it would work. It's one of the consistancies between them, Robert doesn't let Aaron fob him off too easily.

If the writers do go this route it would go against how the relationship has worked in the last twelve months and the fact Robert has been showing he still has feelings for Aaron since he was shot.It would be a strange shift in the writing to do this.
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:14
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I think it will come back again after the Aaron thing.

She must be trying to move on but it just looks like to me, she is back to normal.
My aunty has pstd, it is just that it took time for her to go back to normal.
She did get help.. sometimes still sees a counselor.
Yeah she is trying but it will still be there to an extent.I have had it and had counselling but I still have it to an extent
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:16
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didn't invite him round for Christmas dinner though did he...
No but then Christmas is a time for reaching out and as I have said Chas maybe wants to be nice to Gordon given that he has been ill etc and she maybe feels she ows him something for the years he looked after their son
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:16
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This makes me thinks it's true then. I'll wait to see it pan out... it would be an odd move but maybe it will make more sense when it plays out on screen.
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Old 24-12-2015, 23:17
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Robert knows Aaron doesn't lie easily and if he found him self-harming then he would know it has to be something deep inside Aaron that is hurting. Robert would believe Aaron. The only reason he would doubt him is if Aaron regrets telling him and makes him doubt. Even then I'm not sure it would work. It's one of the consistancies between them, Robert doesn't let Aaron fob him off too easily.

If the writers do go this route it would go against how the relationship has worked in the last twelve months and the fact Robert has been showing he still has feelings for Aaron since he was shot.It would be a strange shift in the writing to do this.
Exactly
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