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Old 03-02-2016, 23:23
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Oh gosh im confused too. Is it tomorrow that Robert tells Aaron how proud he is of him?
No that's Tuesday lol. The day Aaron leaves the village.
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Old 03-02-2016, 23:27
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No that's Tuesday lol. The day Aaron leaves the village.
Haha, Ive read that many spoilers I dont know what day im on
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Old 03-02-2016, 23:40
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I feel like a few of those things in the beach scenes weren't scripted. I've been watching and i feel like the bit where aaron says "it is freezing though" when he's taking his boots off wasn't actually in the script, it's just their giggles right after, especially Lucy's. I could be wrong though.
I read that Danny said they both felt I best not to rehearse that final scene and you can tell. Chas wiping the tears away and the way she touched him was so natural.
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Old 04-02-2016, 00:18
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you're worrying far too much about this new character guys
The voice of reason - thanks Wally!!

Remember the 'very wise frog' people, remember the 'very wise frog' or alternatively just

http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/p/...d-ship-robron/

see somebody's already done it !!!!



Re. the Robron playlist, please can I put forward for inclusion:

'Redemption' - The Strange Familiar............

"my eyes are slowly opened and I see that in you there is a good heart, there is a good soul"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7qCFQ4sqBU


and (again):

'When You've Got Trouble' - Liz Longley......... (especially for how things are right now)

"oh my darling we're so delicately inter-twined.....oh my heart, my heart is tangled all around you, when you've got trouble I've got trouble too"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKE2w5Z5dPw


and because I continue to live in hope (as we all should!!!)

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Old 04-02-2016, 00:52
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OMG I am totally broken.

I just watched it

I have no words all I was thinking about is "poor little boy" having to got through it.

So sad, I can't believe that some people are doing this to their own child.

Poor little boy


I can't stop crying and my husband asking me why I cry.
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:29
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Yeah I really believed the bank loan one. I think she assumed Gordon would come back but rang the bank manager in case. She always has had history of putting BF's before her son. She'll make up for it from tonight though so I forgive her.

I don't know why but I could see ED pairing her with Paddy again.
Hi all - long time lurker, 1st time poster (and that opener is why *facepalm*....)

I dont think banks give loans to ppl awaiting sentence or on a suspended sentence (as they may go to prison and not repay) - so thinking there is more to it, unless they are going to 'soap' over that one
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:53
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Hi Edey! welcome to the family

I just re-watched the scene 'cos I thought the first time was just the shock of watching it for the first time but I couldn't handle it, it was just too real and sad. I don't think I've ever felt this much sadness over a fictional character.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:11
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The voice of reason - thanks Wally!!

Remember the 'very wise frog' people, remember the 'very wise frog' or alternatively just

http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/p/...d-ship-robron/

see somebody's already done it !!!!
We've survived a marriage, two hundred break ups, Aaron tied up and held at gunpoint, threats, fights, Aaron forcing Rob out of the closet, Robert trying to win Chrissie Back, that bit at the scrapyard where he twisted the knife in every wound Aaron has ever had and now this.

One measly character won't shake my faith in our (admittedly f-ed up) boys
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:19
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Holy cow it was harder watching Aaron tell Chas what Gordan did to him

WIth Robert, even with all of the speculation it was still shocking and hard to process, he was so young and helpless, but he went into so much more detail about that first time when he told Chaz. Between his sobbing and Chaz fighting so hard to keep her feelings under control so she can be there for Aaron...idk how I got through that scene without sobbing myself.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:21
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We've survived a marriage, two hundred break ups, Aaron tied up and held at gunpoint, threats, fights, Aaron forcing Rob out of the closet, Robert trying to win Chrissie Back, that bit at the scrapyard where he twisted the knife in every wound Aaron has ever had and now this.

One measly character won't shake my faith in our (admittedly f-ed up) boys
Lol it's true but funny

I completely agree with you
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:31
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We've survived a marriage, two hundred break ups, Aaron tied up and held at gunpoint, threats, fights, Aaron forcing Rob out of the closet, Robert trying to win Chrissie Back, that bit at the scrapyard where he twisted the knife in every wound Aaron has ever had and now this.

One measly character won't shake my faith in our (admittedly f-ed up) boys
So true. This is just a very different storyline than those. This a much more realistic storyline. I can't see after tonight a tawdry affair or hitman or something like that. Robert will be some version of the character that might actually exist not an ott soap villain.
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Old 04-02-2016, 02:55
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So true. This is just a very different storyline than those. This a much more realistic storyline. I can't see after tonight a tawdry affair or hitman or something like that. Robert will be some version of the character that might actually exist not an ott soap villain.
Yes they've obviously toned Robert down in order for him to have a future in the village, last year he was off the scale villain but now we have a more human Robert. I hope he still keeps the nasty, Machiavellian side when crossed though!
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Old 04-02-2016, 04:33
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Aahhhh ok. I've got confused with all these spoiler dates.

I still think that a further assault is possible and that this is why 'twitter outrage' is expected.

I hope I'm wrong, just thinking out aloud.
I don't think Gordon would dare try to sexually assault Aaron again - after all, Aaron is a grown man now, and Gordon appears to be interested in children, and if he did try it, Aaron's years of loathing and anger would boil over. Also, Gordon is clever - he already had the "False Memory Syndrome" excuse off pat, so you can be sure he will be on his guard even more now.

But Danny was magnificent last night - I have never seen any actor give such a remarkable performance of angst and sadness and loneliness so well. I wish a few others would be inspired by him and bring depth to their own characters even half as well (Kirin for example)
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:37
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Morning! I woke up thinking about last night's scenes!
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:43
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Hi all - long time lurker, 1st time poster (and that opener is why *facepalm*....)

I dont think banks give loans to ppl awaiting sentence or on a suspended sentence (as they may go to prison and not repay) - so thinking there is more to it, unless they are going to 'soap' over that one
Hello and welcome.

I agree with with you about the bank loans. There must be a further twist on the pub sale.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:48
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I don't think Gordon would dare try to sexually assault Aaron again - after all, Aaron is a grown man now, and Gordon appears to be interested in children, and if he did try it, Aaron's years of loathing and anger would boil over. Also, Gordon is clever - he already had the "False Memory Syndrome" excuse off pat, so you can be sure he will be on his guard even more now.

But Danny was magnificent last night - I have never seen any actor give such a remarkable performance of angst and sadness and loneliness so well. I wish a few others would be inspired by him and bring depth to their own characters even half as well (Kirin for example)
While I agree with you about Gordon not trying again (unless he was seriously stupid) I don't think it needs to be because of that reason though. I don't think hes a Pedo as such with an attraction to children or the abuse would have likely been more frequent but is a perverted rapist who gets off on power. An extra sick one because he targeted a child. his own child. So he will no doubt use his power over Aaron to try and intimidate him into silence. Maybe even physically to an extent. People like him should slowly have all their bits removed a centimeter at a time.

And I whole heartily second your whole second paragraph! Danny was phenomenal!!
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:51
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Hello and welcome.

I agree with with you about the bank loans. There must be a further twist on the pub sale.
Perhaps a new character? We know its a nice female dingle I think. Distant relative?

Correct me if I'm wrong. It would be a good opportunity to introduce new blood.
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:01
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Stick with me on this because it isn't nice. Aaron has always regarded Paddy as his dad ("Thanks for everything, - dad" ) was his last words to Paddy before he left in 2012. Just a couple of weeks ago, when Aaron found out about Paddy's fling with the schoolteacher he told him "you're supposed to be my dad!".

They have really taken Paddy down the road to being almost a dirty old man,presumably to take the audiences estimation of Paddy down.

I wonder if Gordon will try to suggest Paddy abused Aaron and has "transferred" the blame onto him?.

We KNOW that would be absolute nonsense of course, but to a devious man facing years in prison as a nonce, and having had FMS in reserve, who knows what he might try?. Remember a few years ago Hazel (Jackson's mum) made a comment about a teenage boy living alone with an unmarried man, and when the police officer came to see Paddy after Aaron's attack, I remember her saying that Paddy "lived with" Aaron.

Its an unpleasant scenario, but there are always villagers willing to think the worst of everyone: if some people felt Aaron would have shot Robert, what else might they think others are capable of?
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:06
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Perhaps a new character? We know its a nice female dingle I think. Distant relative?

Correct me if I'm wrong. It would be a good opportunity to introduce new blood.
With all due respect, I think a lot of the new introductions haven't been great: Emma, Ross, Rashid, the understated Kirin etc.....

I think the ideal and most logical thing would be for Robert to take half the pub - he I think would be the ideal publican - sharp, bit of a lad, essentially cheerful, also quite young so he could stay around for a few years. As Ryan IRL has moved from London to nearer the studios, I would imagine his future is secure - and I hope Danny stays in the show for years. Perhaps in time, Chas might give her share of the pub to Aaron so Robert and Aaron could be real partners?
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:01
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With all due respect, I think a lot of the new introductions haven't been great: Emma, Ross, Rashid, the understated Kirin etc.....

I think the ideal and most logical thing would be for Robert to take half the pub - he I think would be the ideal publican - sharp, bit of a lad, essentially cheerful, also quite young so he could stay around for a few years. As Ryan IRL has moved from London to nearer the studios, I would imagine his future is secure - and I hope Danny stays in the show for years. Perhaps in time, Chas might give her share of the pub to Aaron so Robert and Aaron could be real partners?
With all due respect I didn't say it would be a good thing to introduce someone new just that it would be a good opportunity to do so If the show wants to bring someone in this is a convenient way.

Robert owning the pub would be great but I think the spoilers we have had already rule that out unfortunately.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:02
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Perhaps a new character? We know its a nice female dingle I think. Distant relative?

Correct me if I'm wrong. It would be a good opportunity to introduce new blood.
The Dingle comment related to last Monday so it was Chas that was meant 😁
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:20
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The Dingle comment related to last Monday so it was Chas that was meant 😁
Are we sure? She didnt say that she was buying it though just that she had a plan B if Gordon fell through. Was that what Kirsten was talking about? or whoever is buying it since Gordon obviously wont now.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:31
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Morning! I woke up thinking about last night's scenes!
I cant seem to get them out of my head either, so powerful and touching and also the subject matter doesnt help, they are telling the story so well they have us all hooked, just hope they dont spoil it by cheapening it down the line
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:50
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Is this about what Gordon tells Chas??

Do u know the stuff he says? Ugh I dread.
I think Gordon will make out that he always had an inkling someone was abusing Aaron and that he feels guilty not doing anything about it. He'll probably say it was a teacher or a close friend or someone. It'll come off as if he's being really sincere and concerned for Aaron's welfare and he'll say that he was in a bad place when Chas left (trying to make her feel guilty). Chas will probably look like she's buying into it but deep down she knows Aaron wouldn't lie. I reckon that Gordon will then switch and be really intimidating, blaming her as much as himself and saying that they won't be able to prove anything anyway.

I think in most historical cases like this the abuser only gets sent down if they plead guilty and then they get a lesser sentence for admitting it. Wrong I know but I think this is what happens in real life.

I'm hoping for Chas and Robert to bond a little over this. It would be sweet for Aaron's Mum and potential boyfriend to actually start to get a long.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:14
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Perhaps Diane will change her mind about selling the pub.
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