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Emmerdale: Aaron Livesy and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 5)
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Lmack
24-11-2015
Excited for what's to come I don't think it's that great that Emma will figure out what's wrong with Chas though-she is a nurse afterall.She will have to do more than that to convince me she is a decent person after the things she has done.Ok she deserves an apology for recent stuff but she's still a conniving woman
Robronic
24-11-2015
A few things:

1. There's a theory going about on Tumblr that when Chas knocks herself out next week, Robert might actually be there & she isn't just imagining it (we know Robert tells Andy to get revenge on the person who stabbed Diane). Could be the reason why he's happy to here the news that Chas has PTSD? I do think that theory won't come true anyway (well at least I hope not!) Robert though is fairly busy next week so not going to happen for me.

2. More likely the reason Robert's happy to hear about Chas' PTSD is because it gets Aaron off his back regarding the shooting. I do think however not only is he protecting Andy regarding the shooting, but also Aaron. I mean if Aaron finds out Andy was involved, what would Aaron do? If he blabs about Andy's involvement, then Andy's in trouble (even though there's no evidence whatsoever he was involved). If Aaron didn't blab, Andy would start asking questions as to why Aaron wouldn't say anything to the cops (Aaron would probably say because of Jack/Sarah, but of course it would be more to do with his guilt regarding his role in Katie's death). Then if Andy somehow worked that out, Aaron himself might be in more trouble (although considering Andy sees Aaron as a mate, what he's been through regarding Robert's shooting & he seems to be a forgive & forget guy), Andy would probably keep quiet. I mean, even if you admit to something, you obviously get away with it (e.g. Robert about Katie).

And 3. Robert's offer to Aaron is most likely that he & Chas get away for a bit (hence why neither are probably in the week after). I mean it does get Aaron off his case for a bit, but I do hope Aaron sees it (if this is correct) that he sees genuine care from Robert about him & his mum (although I'm not hedging my bets) & this is the start (slowly but surely) of some sort of reconciliation.

What I really, really, REALLY don't want to happen is for Chas to get help for her PTSD (with Aaron's support) in the week beginning 8th December (when we're expecting both to be off screen) & for her to be magically cured (as always seems to be the case with mental health issues), but sadly, I think this might be the case, especially as it'll probably turn out Chas is all ok, only for Gordon to arrive on the scene.
andy614
24-11-2015
So what is the idea? That Robert offers to pay for Aaron and Chas to get away? For treatment? Just looks after the pub?

The problem i have with it is that it's unlikely it will be out the goodness of his heart, it will be some manipulation or benefit of himself, and so i'm quite concerned if it potentially earns him brownie points with Aaron. I don't want Aaron thawing towards him based on lies/manipulation/selfishness..

Also i see in an interview with Lucy that she says during the ep in the woods she see's various people from her past..i wonder if we could get a first glimpse of Gordon?

I will like this story i think as it will show worried/concerned Aaron and that always pleases me, i guess as someone who's watched when Aaron really didn't that much care (or show it anyway) about Chas (or anyone really) it's just so lovely to see him being loving and caring for his mums wellbeing.
Dress to Kill
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Robronic:
“A few things:

1. There's a theory going about on Tumblr that when Chas knocks herself out next week, Robert might actually be there & she isn't just imagining it (we know Robert tells Andy to get revenge on the person who stabbed Diane). Could be the reason why he's happy to here the news that Chas has PTSD? I do think that theory won't come true anyway (well at least I hope not!) Robert though is fairly busy next week so not going to happen for me.”

I don't think this will be the case, mostly because the show and the press would most definitely use it as a hype story. Lucy's commented that Chas sees Robert and Diane when she's out in the woods among other people/things I presume, so it's all in her head. Nothing is mentioned about Robert going after the stabber after Thursday, and I honestly think it'll be a case of Robert and Andy in the hospital or just back from hospital being angry that Diane has been stabbed and suggesting something, then not going through with it or it being dropped once he knows it's Chas.

Originally Posted by andy614:
“So what is the idea? That Robert offers to pay for Aaron and Chas to get away? For treatment? Just looks after the pub?

The problem i have with it is that it's unlikely it will be out the goodness of his heart, it will be some manipulation or benefit of himself, and so i'm quite concerned if it potentially earns him brownie points with Aaron. I don't want Aaron thawing towards him based on lies/manipulation/selfishness..”

Well it can be seen either way, I mean, it could be both, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Robert's protecting his brother is more important to him right now, so yeah, he's doing it for him but obviously suggesting Aaron go away with his mother doesn't hurt Aaron either, giving Aaron & Chas some space and getting the heat off Andy. Kind of a kill two birds with one stone thing going on. That's if this is the case, we haven't got much to go on with that theory.

You can punch holes in everything Robert does towards Aaron when you think about it, and most things have several potential meanings. It really depends how you want to look at things and how much you take that in your view of Robert and Robert's feelings towards Aaron.
Lmack
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by andy614:
“So what is the idea? That Robert offers to pay for Aaron and Chas to get away? For treatment? Just looks after the pub?

The problem i have with it is that it's unlikely it will be out the goodness of his heart, it will be some manipulation or benefit of himself, and so i'm quite concerned if it potentially earns him brownie points with Aaron. I don't want Aaron thawing towards him based on lies/manipulation/selfishness..

Also i see in an interview with Lucy that she says during the ep in the woods she see's various people from her past..i wonder if we could get a first glimpse of Gordon?

I will like this story i think as it will show worried/concerned Aaron and that always pleases me, i guess as someone who's watched when Aaron really didn't that much care (or show it anyway) about Chas (or anyone really) it's just so lovely to see him being loving and caring for his mums wellbeing.”

I am also looking forward to seeing this side of Aaron towards his mum-but I fear that the Gordon stuff will undo a lot of it
Lmack
24-11-2015
I hope they do the Chas PSTD story justice and not just have her magically ok like someone else said.That would just not be realistic at all.They don't do mental health well and it should be taken more seriously
andy614
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dress to Kill:
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Well it can be seen either way, I mean, it could be both, it doesn't have to be one or the other. Robert's protecting his brother is more important to him right now, so yeah, he's doing it for him but obviously suggesting Aaron go away with his mother doesn't hurt Aaron either, giving Aaron & Chas some space and getting the heat off Andy. Kind of a kill two birds with one stone thing going on. That's if this is the case, we haven't got much to go on with that theory.

You can punch holes in everything Robert does towards Aaron when you think about it, and most things have several potential meanings. It really depends how you want to look at things and how much you take that in your view of Robert and Robert's feelings towards Aaron.”

I just think that i'd have preferred that Aaron starts to thaw towards Robert based on Robert doing something out of the goodness of his heart for Aaron or looking out for him or whatever. I agree that part of Roberts offer could also be to help Aaron as well as Andy but i'd have preferred it be in it's won right. If that makes sense. Not that we even know how Aaron will react to it. It might make no difference at all to how he feels about him and something else does it. like Robert being there for him with the Gordon stuff. Who knows.
tink02
24-11-2015
I think Aaron will find out about Ross's involvement before Robert. Part of Robert's worry could be towards Aaron to protect him. After all he doesn't know who Andy got to shoot him, it could've been a professional hitman or thug for all he knows so he probably does't want Aaron digging in case he puts himself at risk.
cherrytops(82)
24-11-2015
Wait what is the offer??
Dress to Kill
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by cherrytops(82):
“Wait what is the offer??”

We don't know. We theorise is could be that Robert suggests Aaron take Chas away or offers to pay for Aaron to get away for a bit with her. Purely speculation based on the fact Aaron and Chas disappear from the spoilers after Wednesday when Robert makes whatever the offer is. Might not actually be the case.
andy614
24-11-2015
Are Aaron or Robert in tonights episode?
Dress to Kill
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by andy614:
“Are Aaron or Robert in tonights episode?”

Aaron is in today, Wednesday and Thursday. Robert's only mentioned for Thursday. Although like last night, it doesn't mean they don't appear.
Randomguy83
24-11-2015
I really don't think Robert's attention is on winning Aaron round. I think it's on his family, protecting Andy and keeping trouble away from Diane. Robert is doing what he should be focussing on his family and not on someone who claims to hate him.

Whether we agree with him protecting Andy or not it's what he's chosen to do so he's going to keep doing that until he has no other choice.

I don't personally think he's trying to protect Aaron from doing anything stupid or reckless like attacking Doug and getting arrested for example. I think that's just what gives him an excuse.
andy614
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dress to Kill:
“Aaron is in today, Wednesday and Thursday. Robert's only mentioned for Thursday. Although like last night, it doesn't mean they don't appear.”

You need to update your location. Mind you, maybe it's best to keep it what with this Aaron/Ross stuff coming up
AmyEWright
24-11-2015
I kinda wish Robert would stop protecting Andy and Chrissie because I want it to be all about Aaron for him but at the same time I like him protecting them because he's doing the right thing and he is redeeming himself. I'm with Aaron though I'd be suspicious of everything Robert does and know there has to be a catch. If Robert does offer him money to go away I can't see him taking it tbh. Also I don't think Aaron would trust Robert to run the pub in Chas' absence with him being Diane's stepson. Maybe Aaron turns him down but does think its a good idea for them to get away and asks for Cain's help instead. Either way Robert's happy because Aaron is out of the way.
ArtyAttack
24-11-2015
TV Times have confirmed that Gordon Livesy will arrive in Emmerdale in two weeks time.
Randomguy83
24-11-2015
OT but might be of some interest, Sharon Marshall confirmed on TM that she's joined ED now and is going to be writing next summer stuff.
ArtyAttack
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“OT but might be of some interest, Sharon Marshall confirmed on TM that she's joined ED now and is going to be writing next summer stuff.”

Weird that she has left the Eastenders team.
Fhionnuisce
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“OT but might be of some interest, Sharon Marshall confirmed on TM that she's joined ED now and is going to be writing next summer stuff.”

who is that lady? is it good news for more Robron stuff?
Dress to Kill
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“OT but might be of some interest, Sharon Marshall confirmed on TM that she's joined ED now and is going to be writing next summer stuff.”

Maybe she'll actually talk about Emmerdale more now on the show

Also shows that they're writing Summer stuff already, so Kate's work is definitely well into next year. Decide if that's good or not for yourself

Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“who is that lady? is it good news for more Robron stuff?”

She's a Soap Writer who goes on a UK show called This Morning to talk about what's happening in the soaps that week. We've often compained about her and her bias towards EastEnders but now she's joined ED it might change

It doesn't mean anything more for Robron than any other character.
Randomguy83
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“TV Times have confirmed that Gordon Livesy will arrive in Emmerdale in two weeks time.”

So WC 7th December then? There's no hint of that in the press centre spoilers if so.

Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Weird that she has left the Eastenders team.”

Poached rather than left judging from how coy she was being.

Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“who is that lady? is it good news for more Robron stuff?”

She's the one who comes on TV and gives 'exclusive' soap gossip which we already know because of websites and magazines.

I wouldn't think it will affect Robron.
tink02
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“So WC 7th December then? There's no hint of that in the press centre spoilers if so.



Poached rather than left judging from how coy she was being.



She's the one who comes on TV and gives 'exclusive' soap gossip which we already know because of websites and magazines.

I wouldn't think it will affect Robron.”

I remembered her interviewing the ED cast and spending time asking what they thought of Corrie and Eastenders.
ArtyAttack
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“So WC 7th December then? There's no hint of that in the press centre spoilers if so.


”

No I expect they mean the following week as their spoilers are for next week so it will be two weeks after week ending 4th December.
Randomguy83
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by tink02:
“I remembered her interviewing the ED cast and spending time asking what they thought of Corrie and Eastenders. ”

Oh yeah she did that too. That occasion she gave us 'exclusive' insights into how the ED cast feel about their rivals .

Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“No I expect they mean the following week as their spoilers are for next week so it will be two weeks after week ending 4th December.”

Ah that makes sense why there's no mention of him. So it seems like his appearance will coincide with Aaron & Ross stuff. Maybe this warehouse thing will involve him.
Dress to Kill
24-11-2015
TV Choice Spoilers (thanks to kellysbarlastfriday on Tumblr):

Monday: Aware his testimony could sway the jury in Chrissie's favour, Lachlan asks Robert for help - but when push comes to shove, just what will his stepdad say in front of the judge?

Tuesday: Terrified for her life, Chas flees from the gruesome apparition before her - but trips and knocks herself unconscious in the freezing woods. Will she survive?

Wednesday: Tensions reach breaking point at The Woolpack when Doug casts doubt on Chas's diagnosis, giving Robert an opportunity of wheedling his way back into Aaron's life.

Thursday & Friday: No Robron related spoilers
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