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Emmerdale: Aaron Livesy and Robert Sugden Appreciation Thread (Part 5)
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Randomguy83
09-12-2015
Seems Debbie gives Ross a false alibi for the shooting.

Also Pete tells Moira the truth as well.

Looks like Finn is aware as well so pretty much half the village will know what Ross did.

Aaron's alibi isn't credible so im guessing Gordon does give him an alibi but because he's his dad....

Oh and as if we needed any more confirmation Robert doesn't obviously shoot Ross as Robert confronts Ross and then 'soon after' Debbie confronts him too.

This is the full bit for Monday 21st about buying the pub:

Meanwhile, Aaron is worried that Robert wants to buy Diane's share of the pub. Aaron enquires about taking money out of the scrapyard so that he can put a deposit down on the pub, but Adam isn't keen. Cain overhears and Aaron is frustrated when Cain says that he doesn't have the sort of money they would need to buy Diane's share.

At the same time, Diane meets up with Gordon. When they start to discuss Aaron's troubled past, Gordon suggests offering a lifeline, but will Aaron accept?
Lucie_Girard
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“Seems Debbie gives Ross a false alibi for the shooting.

Also Pete tells Moira the truth as well.

Looks like Finn is aware as well so pretty much half the village will know what Ross did.

Aaron's alibi isn't credible so im guessing Gordon does give him an alibi but because he's his dad....

Oh and as if we needed any more confirmation Robert doesn't obviously shoot Ross as Robert confronts Ross and then 'soon after' Debbie confronts him too.

This is the full bit for Monday 21st about buying the pub:



Meanwhile, Aaron is worried that Robert wants to buy Diane's share of the pub. Aaron enquires about taking money out of the scrapyard so that he can put a deposit down on the pub, but Adam isn't keen. Cain overhears and Aaron is frustrated when Cain says that he doesn't have the sort of money they would need to buy Diane's share.


At the same time, Diane meets up with Gordon. When they start to discuss Aaron's troubled past, Gordon suggests offering a lifeline, but will Aaron accept?
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Thank you for all the spoilers Can't wait for the Robron interaction
Ro_Ryan
09-12-2015
So Michael Parr has taken on the wrath of the Robron army☺ brave man. I think everyone should go over to the Soaps end of year round up thing and vote Charlotte and not him. He's getting a bit to big for his boots I think. Very childish I know, and I'm only half messin ( I would have been voting for Charlotte anyway) but have always thought he was a bit of an asshole. Especially after he posted that clip of Kelvin not being able to spell Yes! I know it's funny and lads bants and all that, but to me it felt like there was an undercurrent of nastyness to it. Mabey I just don't get him.
Fhionnuisce
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“DS spoilers as usual only days where Robert or Aaron are confirmed to appear:

Monday 21st
Tuesday 22nd
Wednesday 23rd
Christmas Eve
Christmas Day
Monday 28th
Wednesday 30th
New years Eve
New Years Day”

Thanks Random that's great I've given up trying to find DS spoilers now without links. I thought it was supposed to be going to be made easier but it isn't

OT but I suppose the mark on Johnny is what leads to Vanessa finding out that Kirin is the dad, I kinda like Kirin and was really sorry for him but it wasn't Adam's fault he bonded with who he thought was his son
BcUhTrTyEeRdCUP
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Fhionnuisce:
“Congratulations Buttercup., That's great news x ”

Originally Posted by Lucie_Girard:
“Woohoo excellent news

I am very Happy for you. You deserve it ”

Originally Posted by Randomguy83:
“

Well done you.”

Thanks guys
Lmack
09-12-2015
Interested to see what comes of all this next stuff.I wonder what it meant when they said all isn't as it seems and not to take things as face value.Also does Debbie take Moses with her when she leaves the village ?
andy614
09-12-2015
I've seen a few hints that what Gordon tells Chas about his life over the past few years might be all that trustworthy......and then i was curious about a line in Lucy's interview yesterday where she talks about how Gordon and his wife had split up and so not around anymore where she ended it "or maybe she is...." so i dunno if his story is maybe not quite as straightforward as it seems.

No idea what the story would be there though.

And btw Chason (Chas and Gordon ) keep their secret fling secret for about 2 minutes before Aaron clicks on....much messed up aaron drama ensues.
Lmack
09-12-2015
I wonder if Aaron knows something bad about his dad and what happened with his wife and so he really doesn't want Chas being with him
AmyEWright
09-12-2015
I thought maybe that Gordon hit Sandra and blamed it on Aaron when he first returned to the village. Don't know why Aaron would have covered for him though? There is bound to be something that makes Aaron hate him so much that goes beyond being abandoned by him.
gemchryed
09-12-2015
I think that Sandra may have abused Aaron, perhaps Gordon found out and did nothing. Then Aaron retaliated once by hitting Sandra and Gordon threw him out, hence all the resentment Aaron feels towards him.
Lmack
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“I thought maybe that Gordon hit Sandra and blamed it on Aaron when he first returned to the village. Don't know why Aaron would have covered for him though? There is bound to be something that makes Aaron hate him so much that goes beyond being abandoned by him.”

Yeah there has to be something else.I initially thought it would be something to do with when Aaron was little and what maybe went on when Chas and Gordon were together because they say the story will focus on something from Chas and Aaron's past.But then I wonder why Chas first of all would let Aaron live with Gordon if he was bad/violent etc and also why Aaron seemed to like being with his dad and did not even like visiting Chas.Unless Gordon somehow blackmailed Chas into giving up custody of Aaron all those years ago and turned Aaron against her for a while,until maybe he then turned violent again towards Aaron.However,I would have expected all this to be talked about when Aaron returned.Then I also wonder why Chas would consider getting back with Gordon now.It is maybe something totally different about their past though.We know it is a hard story to tell and to play and it is a first,so really not sure
Lmack
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by gemchryed:
“I think that Sandra may have abused Aaron, perhaps Gordon found out and did nothing. Then Aaron retaliated once by hitting Sandra and Gordon threw him out, hence all the resentment Aaron feels towards him.”

That is a very good guess-that could be it.It makes sense and it ties in with everything.I still wonder what it is about Chas and Aaron's past that the story focuses on though
AmyEWright
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“Yeah there has to be something else.I initially thought it would be something to do with when Aaron was little and what maybe went on when Chas and Gordon were together because they say the story will focus on something from Chas and Aaron's past.But then I wonder why Chas first of all would let Aaron live with Gordon if he was bad/violent etc and also why Aaron seemed to like being with his dad and did not even like visiting Chas.Unless Gordon somehow blackmailed Chas into giving up custody of Aaron all those years ago and turned Aaron against her for a while,until maybe he then turned violent again towards Aaron.However,I would have expected all this to be talked about when Aaron returned.Then I also wonder why Chas would consider getting back with Gordon now.It is maybe something totally different about their past though.We know it is a hard story to tell and to play and it is a first,so really not sure”

It must be something Chas doesn't know because if she did as you say she would never have left Aaron with Gordon. Furthermore she wouldn't get back with him now. It must be a dark secret to come out. Aaron probably hasn't told Chas because he doesn't want to make her feel guilty for leaving him there. It must be difficult to talk about for him.
Lmack
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“It must be something Chas doesn't know because if she did as you say she would never have left Aaron with Gordon. Furthermore she wouldn't get back with him now. It must be a dark secret to come out. Aaron probably hasn't told Chas because he doesn't want to make her feel guilty for leaving him there. It must be difficult to talk about for him.”

Yeah it's intruiging as to what it may be.Wonder what they mean though about the story focusing on Chas and Aaron's past ?
tink02
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“It must be something Chas doesn't know because if she did as you say she would never have left Aaron with Gordon. Furthermore she wouldn't get back with him now. It must be a dark secret to come out. Aaron probably hasn't told Chas because he doesn't want to make her feel guilty for leaving him there. It must be difficult to talk about for him.”

Aaron may also be 'embarrassed' if he was hit by a woman. He maybe didn't want to admit to it especially with his conflicting feelings over being gay and the need to prove he wasn't. She's really an unknown quanity as she didn't feature much from memory.
gemchryed
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“That is a very good guess-that could be it.It makes sense and it ties in with everything.I still wonder what it is about Chas and Aaron's past that the story focuses on though”

Did we ever find out why Chas left Aaron in the first place? I know her and Gordon were arguing and she felt Aaron was better off with him, but do we know why she felt like that?

How old was Aaron when Chas arrived in Emmerdale?
gemchryed
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by tink02:
“Aaron may also be 'embarrassed' if he was hit by a woman. He maybe didn't want to admit to it especially with his conflicting feelings over being gay and the need to prove he wasn't. She's really an unknown quanity as she didn't feature much from memory.”

I thought there could even be an element of sexual abuse to it, which added further to Aaron's resentment of his sexuality. But I think that would probably be too dark for Emmerdale and also horrible to watch
Randomguy83
09-12-2015
I quite like the idea of Sandra being abusive. I mean obvious abuse isn't good but she's a blank slate character with no value so can be thrown under a bus like this.

Suppose the question is why would Gordon leave Sandra with their child if she was like that so I don't think that's how it will work.

Aaron probably did hit her but as a result of Gordon hitting him and learned behaviour.

I noticed Gordon is still wearing a wedding ring so maybe he's still married to her but separated.
Jessica_Bobbing
09-12-2015
So if Sandra was abusive what's going on with their child? Didn't they have a daughter?
Lmack
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“So if Sandra was abusive what's going on with their child? Didn't they have a daughter?”

Yeah they have a daughter.Surely if she was abusive then Gordon wouldn't leave her with the daughter
Lmack
09-12-2015
There is obviously a reason why Aaron disliked Gordon so much.Are there two separate stories though ? Because they say the story focuses on something from Chas and Aaron's past which explains why they both are the way they are-so is this one story and then Gordon/Aaron another ?
Jessica_Bobbing
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“Yeah they have a daughter.Surely if she was abusive then Gordon wouldn't leave her with the daughter”

That's what I thought. It doesn't sound like Gordon has custody of her though.
gemchryed
09-12-2015
Maybe Aaron told Gordon about Sandra abusing him, but Gordon didn't believe him?
ArtyAttack
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Lmack:
“There is obviously a reason why Aaron disliked Gordon so much.Are there two separate stories though ? Because they say the story focuses on something from Chas and Aaron's past which explains why they both are the way they are-so is this one story and then Gordon/Aaron another ?”

I think we will learn more about how Chas was not great mother material at the time and why she left Aaron with Gordon. Aaron's time with Gordon is the main thrust of the storyline and I do think we will have an appearance from Sandra at some stage in the New Year as Gordon is not telling the whole truth to Chas.
Lucie_Girard
09-12-2015
Maybe it is Sandra that accuses Aaron of being abusive towards her. Aaron hit her and Gordon believing Sandra threw Aaron out.
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