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Well done Anton for pointing out that the show is scripted
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home_truths
22-11-2015
I hope Nicks scripted comments about Anton being fake massively backfire on the show. Well done to Anton for saying that he wasn't acting but Nick was. It would be so good if he could've said ' oh is that what you've been told to say about me, I can see if you've learnt your script right.

Anyone that is happy to work with Cowell obviously has no morals or conscience and loses all credibility in my eyes.
big bang theory
22-11-2015
What did Nick say exactly? I only caught the he wouldn't hear Anton on the Radio comment.
Tony_Daniels
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by home_truths:
“I hope Nicks scripted comments about Anton being fake massively backfire on the show. Well done to Anton for saying that he wasn't acting but Nick was. It would be so good if he could've said ' oh is that what you've been told to say about me, I can see if you've learnt your script right.

Anyone that is happy to work with Cowell obviously has no morals or conscience and loses all credibility in my eyes.”

But anyone happy to watch or compete on one of his shows is, presumably, a paragon of virtue?
Amaretto2
22-11-2015
The contestants now sign a watertight contract where they are not allowed to criticise the show or Simon Cowell at all. Ever.
Dan R
22-11-2015
How nice for you to know what everyone is thinking and how the show is made behind the scenes. Get off your high horse you idiot, Anton was incredibly aggressive afterwards.

Maybe it's Anton posting this???
pugamo
22-11-2015
Anton totally missed Nicks point, and made a spectacle of himself. I've gone off him now.
D. Morgan
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“How nice for you to know what everyone is thinking and how the show is made behind the scenes. Get off your high horse you idiot, Anton was incredibly aggressive afterwards.

Maybe it's Anton posting this???”

I'm sure you wouldn't react nicely to being stitched up week on week on live television and then being told you're fake by Nick bloody Grimshaw of all people!
Tony_Daniels
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by D. Morgan:
“I'm sure you wouldn't react nicely to being stitched up week on week on live television and then being told you're fake by Nick bloody Grimshaw of all people!”

Why is Nick Grimshaw 'fake' suddenly?
james_von05
22-11-2015
anton over reacting on valid point of view... he did not accuse him of being fake...
home_truths
22-11-2015
He said 'that's the act pointing to Nick, not me'just watched it again on ITV 2
Liete
22-11-2015
He appears to be unravelling on his Twitter.
Thiswillbefun
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Tony_Daniels:
“Why is Nick Grimshaw 'fake' suddenly?”

Nick's always been fake. It's just that people have started calling him out, as they have done with most judges on the show.
Blondie X
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Amaretto2:
“The contestants now sign a watertight contract where they are not allowed to criticise the show or Simon Cowell at all. Ever.”

I'd love to see someone have the balls to test them.

Anton should walk and tell all to the media. Would they really drag him through the courts for telling the truth seeing as it would mean that a lot of warts and all crap about Cowell and his empire would be made public?
mitacond
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I'd love to see someone have the balls to test them.

Anton should walk and tell all to the media. Would they really drag him through the courts for telling the truth seeing as it would mean that a lot of warts and all crap about Cowell and his empire would be made public?”

I agree with you for goodness sake Anton at least can sing. Nick seems to think he knows it all silly man he showed his lack of knowledge by making that remark.
Thiswillbefun
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“How nice for you to know what everyone is thinking and how the show is made behind the scenes. Get off your high horse you idiot, Anton was incredibly aggressive afterwards.

Maybe it's Anton posting this???”

Hi Dan,

Good to see it's not me you get aggressive towards when they reveal a truth about the show. I'm starting to think you have a vested interest

It's usually very easy to decipher the decisions that have gone on backstage. For instance, with Louisa, they probably said "let's have a big "YOUR LOVE IS THE WINNER" sign but cut off so the viewers only see the word "WINNER".
footygirl
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“I agree with you for goodness sake Anton at least can sing. Nick seems to think he knows it all silly man he showed his lack of knowledge by making that remark.
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I am not ruling out the prospect that Anton will avoid the sing off
trevor tiger
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by D. Morgan:
“I'm sure you wouldn't react nicely to being stitched up week on week on live television and then being told you're fake by Nick bloody Grimshaw of all people!”

How has Anton been stitched up exactly and how is Nick fake

Anton's like a man on the verge of a nervous breakdown and I really want him to go tonight as watching him is so uncomfortable.
trevor tiger
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“I agree with you for goodness sake Anton at least can sing. Nick seems to think he knows it all silly man he showed his lack of knowledge by making that remark.
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By saying Anton seemed to show more emotion after singing than during And for saying he can't imagine a place for him on the radio today I think he was spot on regarding both comments.

I'm confused why people are turning on Nick for not having a music career of his own I assume. What more does the likes of Cheryl or Simon for that matter have to offer. Simon has been around the block sure but has no musical talent of his own. Cheryl got lucky in a reality TV contest. Nick is a DJ on Radio 1 which surely gives him some credibility in the music industry well at least as much as Cheryl and Simon.
Sylvia
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by pugamo:
“Anton totally missed Nicks point, and made a spectacle of himself. I've gone off him now.”

And just what was Nick's point exactly? It sounded like a random spiteful put-down and I think it was Nick that looked the idiot imo.
Thiswillbefun
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Blondie X:
“I'd love to see someone have the balls to test them.

Anton should walk and tell all to the media. Would they really drag him through the courts for telling the truth seeing as it would mean that a lot of warts and all crap about Cowell and his empire would be made public?”

The contestants such as Monica & Anton have been much more vocal than those in the past, dropping big hints about what's going on.

Kitty Brucknell now has a column on the Mirror where she's openly talks like a SofaBet contributor. She's even said she read the site every day back in 2011 and it helped her stay in the competition for longer.

Janet Devlin used to drop loads of hints about what went on behind the scenes. She seems to have moved on now to focus on her career.

Steve Brookstein will always be outspoken and his contract doesn't stop him from talking out.

Zayn Malik is currently getting it in the neck from Cowell & his media gimps. Hopefully he will speak out as he has a lot more reach and influence than most of the others.
trevor tiger
22-11-2015
It's interesting Anton didn't have the guts to have a go at the organ grinder as opposed to one of the show's monkeys. If it is all scripted and Nick's comments were just from that script then why didn't Anton have a go Simon

Anton is simply scared silly that people will see him as fake because of all the revelations and so had a pop at an easy target, Nick. He wouldn't dare tell the actual truth because that might harm him and his desperation to succeed is far too great to risk any X Factor / Simon wrath
footygirl
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“It's interesting Anton didn't have the guts to have a go at the organ grinder as opposed to one of the show's monkeys. If it is all scripted and Nick's comments were just from that script then why didn't Anton have a go Simon

Anton is simply scared silly that people will see him as fake because of all the revelations and so had a pop at an easy target, Nick. He wouldn't dare tell the actual truth because that might harm him and his desperation to succeed is far too great to risk any X Factor / Simon wrath ”

Sorry think you are wrong there
Tony_Daniels
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by Thiswillbefun:
“Nick's always been fake. It's just that people have started calling him out, as they have done with most judges on the show.”

But fake how?

I get that post 2005 that "fake" has become a generic insult, but what does it actually mean. How is he fake or is it just the "i know you are but what am I" level of logic being applied here?

Whenever people use 'fake' as an insult they hilariously never fail to demonstrate they actually know what the word means. It's like a few years ago anyone on reality TV was "vile". Vile how, we never knew but 'vile' all the same.

Within 10 years people will be calling days of the week they don't like 'fake and vile' with the justification of 'it's just fake and vile' if asked.
Chisato Geeste
22-11-2015
I think Nick would have been better off criticising the fact that Anton gave yet another weak vocal performance.

He has been very disappointing since live shows started and is lucky to still be there.
trevor tiger
22-11-2015
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Sorry think you are wrong there”

About what? That it isn't scripted or that Simon wouldn't be the real person to criticise Or that Anton isn't totally and absolutely desperate

It was interesting how quickly and obsequiously he back tracked when it dawned on him about the X Factor back lash

I actually thought Nick dealt with it really well.
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