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Old 22-11-2015, 20:18
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I don't think it's necessarily a question of that, it's a question of integrity and blatant manipulation.
i think the manipulation is fairly imaginary. peter danced better than jamelia. i don't rate him overall, and the routine was pretty poor, but he's basically a better dancer than she is and it showed tonight.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:18
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So so so blatantly manipulated . Even the audience was edited to make it look better for Peter
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:19
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i think the manipulation is fairly imaginary. peter danced better than jamelia. i don't rate him overall, and the routine was pretty poor, but he's basically a better dancer than she is and it showed tonight.
He most definetly did not dance better . No contest
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:20
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The decision was close, Peter throughout the series has been the better dancer, he had more performance in his, the judges would be shocked as it was so close, people love a conspiracy.

Note, FOUR times Jamila was in the DO, so people have not been voting for her, clearly thinking she hasn't too good, or she wouldn't be in the DO four times which is a record. Rather than the public the judges saved her all the previous times.
Well what is the point in having a dance off. Its a complete waste of time. They might just as well say, well we think Peter is a better dancer so let him stay and not bother wasting peoples time watching two dances which aren't going to make an iota of difference.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:20
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I love Peter and Janette, in fact I want them to win even now.
But, on that dance alone I would have saved Jamelia and I'm not a fan of hers

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Old 22-11-2015, 20:22
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I thought they had to save who was better in the dance off. I noticed Tess said who do you want to stay in the competition or words to that effect not who danced better...
Every year or two the same thing happens. The judges usually say something about the DO performances before they say who they want to save, and then we get a week like tonight where all they say is who they want to save. And Len always disagrees with them.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:22
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Yep, Darcey was head in hands. Obviously instructed how to vote.



Nope, not me.



Well, they ought to be, but somehow, I doubt it.



Exactly. In that case, why did they vote as they did. I've never, ever, seen anything so blatant on SCD.
Darcy or any judge would not be instructed to vote and if she was she would tell them to take a running jump. Her integrity is sound, it's quite an allegation to make, where us the evidence? - head in hands? - close decision.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:24
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James Jordan @The_JamesJordan

I love Peter and Janette, in fact I want them to win even now.
But, on that dance alone I would have saved Jamelia and I'm not a fan of hers

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Interesting.
James has had an axe to grind since being SACKED and would like to be seen as supporting his wife who just quit, before she was sacked.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:24
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Every year or two the same thing happens. The judges usually say something about the DO performances before they say who they want to save, and then we get a week like tonight where all they say is who they want to save. And Len always disagrees with them.
To me this is a Gethin/Matt di Angelo moment Buddy The latter mucked up but Gethin was sent packing. Ive never got over that
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:25
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i think the manipulation is fairly imaginary. peter danced better than jamelia. i don't rate him overall, and the routine was pretty poor, but he's basically a better dancer than she is and it showed tonight.


Well what is the point in having a dance off. Its a complete waste of time. They might just as well say, well we think Peter is a better dancer so let him stay and not bother wasting peoples time watching two dances which aren't going to make an iota of difference.
See above Peter many agree was better in the DO.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:25
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James Jordan @The_JamesJordan

I love Peter and Janette, in fact I want them to win even now.
But, on that dance alone I would have saved Jamelia and I'm not a fan of hers

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Blatant manipulation - Shane on you BBC 😡
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:26
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Everyone has their favourites. When that favourite gets knocked out then the natural react prion is to find a reason why. Denial, conspiracy etc

But

Ask the question. For what reason would the judges want / need / require to fix the result.

No point. The series still continues (and they get paid) to Christmas.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:26
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peter was still better overall than jamelia.
He wasn't last night nor in the dance off, the judges decisions are meant to be based on that dance only, not the the dances throughout.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:27
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See above Peter many agree was better in the DO.
Many ?? One person
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:27
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See above Peter many agree was better in the DO.
Not as many who didn't think he was better in the dance off. Don't get me wrong I am not against Peter and I am not a particular supporter of Jamelia but I like to see fair play in life and this just wasn't.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:28
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i think the manipulation is fairly imaginary. peter danced better than jamelia. i don't rate him overall, and the routine was pretty poor, but he's basically a better dancer than she is and it showed tonight.
Blatant manipulation - Shane on you BBC 😡
Not true, James has a massive axe to grind since being sacked, Shane wasn't in it btw.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:28
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Everyone has their favourites. When that favourite gets knocked out then the natural react prion is to find a reason why. Denial, conspiracy etc

But

Ask the question. For what reason would the judges want / need / require to fix the result.

No point. The series still continues (and they get paid) to Christmas.
Jamelia wasnt exactly a peoples favourite . But most people see the blatant manipulation
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:28
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the only reason Peter was saved was because of the male to female ratio
True. The only reason Jamelia survived so many dance offs was because she was the only black celebrity, and the BBC couldn't stomach not having a black contestent for most of the show. But with still a month left, the BBC has got away with Jamelia's departure as the ethnic diversity box is still being ticked by Anita.

Expect to see Anita in the final, not that she doesn't deserve to be there. Thought her Paso was worth 10 across the board.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:28
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He wasn't last night nor in the dance off, the judges decisions are meant to be based on that dance only, not the the dances throughout.
Theres no point in having a dance off if you are going to save the better overall dancer. Lets just have a public vote.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:29
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Darcy or any judge would not be instructed to vote and if she was she would tell them to take a running jump. Her integrity is sound, it's quite an allegation to make, where us the evidence? - head in hands? - close decision.
It occurred to me she might have been wavering, almost said Jamelia not Peter and was mortified when she heard Len's verdict
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:29
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Not as many who didn't think he was better in the dance off. Don't get me wrong I am not against Peter and I am not a particular supporter of Jamelia but I like to see fair play in life and this just wasn't.
Let's see what Karen Hardy says on Tuesday.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:29
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peter was still better overall than jamelia.
It's not based on overall. It's based on the dance on the night. If the judges had any integrity, Andre would be gone. It's quite disgraceful that he isn't.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:29
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He wasn't last night nor in the dance off, the judges decisions are meant to be based on that dance only, not the the dances throughout.
well, its not the first or last time a better dancer has been saved on a not so good performance, but in any case its a matter of opinion. i'm one of the people that has been supporting jamelia in all her previous appearances in the dance off but this wasn't great, the routine was rushed and her shoulders / top line were not good.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:30
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It occurred to me she might have been wavering, almost said Jamelia not Peter and was mortified when she heard Len's verdict
I think she was 50/50 and in a difficult position, but it was her decision.

People posting here that she was told what to vote is liable.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:30
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Let's see what Karen Hardy says on Tuesday.
She will tow the party line.
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