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Old 22-11-2015, 20:30
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Blatant manipulation - Shane on you BBC 😡
What a fix!!! I have now looked at the DO again and I'd really like to know how Peter danced better than Jamelia - even Len thought so.

Peter's klcks and flicks were still flat (such as they were), he did not point his toes in his kicks and he still had splayed hands. No way does he deserve to be in Week 10. There really is some explaining to do!!!
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:32
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It's not based on overall. It's based on the dance on the night. If the judges had any integrity, Andre would be gone. It's quite disgraceful that he isn't.

i'm fairly sure that - in the imaginary scenario that it had been anyone versus peter and anyone had tripped or slipped, most of us would still consider it worth the judges saving them over a poorer dancer. peter will be out next, so no need for a hunger strike or anything too dramatic. maybe a short, severe letter to offstuff?
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:32
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She will tow the party line.
She is an independent world renown judge in dancing, I would value her opion, if she says it was wrong, I would accept that.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:32
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James has had an axe to grind since being SACKED and would like to be seen as supporting his wife who just quit, before she was sacked.
James was NOT sacked. James' contract ended he wasn't offered a new one. The pros are only ever contracted for a series at a time.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:33
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She will tow the party line.
She will also raise her voice, widen her eyes and ham it up completely and clap herself. I know this because she has a little key you turn at the back.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:33
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peter was still better overall than jamelia.
That seems like a fair assessment to me.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:34
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James was NOT sacked. James' contract ended he wasn't offered a new one. The pros are only ever contracted for a series at a time.
- James was sacked, = contract not renewed, he continued to be rude.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:34
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Based on the do dances, Peter should have been out !!!
His dance wasn't even a jive

Urghhhh !!!!
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:35
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Poor Jamelia
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:36
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where were all these jamelia supporters for the last few weeks?? lol, most people seemed to think she should be voted out for her (reported) views on animals / fat people / life and now suddenly she's been hard done by?
I don't like Jamelia at all but she definitely danced much better than Peter, both in the show and the dance off. He should have gone.


Darcy or any judge would not be instructed to vote and if she was she would tell them to take a running jump. Her integrity is sound, it's quite an allegation to make, where us the evidence? - head in hands? - close decision.
They were obviously told who to keep in. Darcey was so embarrassed she had to hide her face.


Everyone has their favourites. When that favourite gets knocked out then the natural react prion is to find a reason why. Denial, conspiracy etc

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Ask the question. For what reason would the judges want / need / require to fix the result.

No point. The series still continues (and they get paid) to Christmas.
Well Jamelia was never my favourite, in fact she was my least favourite from the start. I would have been happy if she had been the first to go (not keen on Tristan either. I also like Peter a lot BUT Jamelia did a great dance and Peter did not. How on earth could that thing he did be called a jive?

So as she was not my favourite that blows away your theory

He was awful and the judges should be ashamed of themselves. They were obviously told who to keep in.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:36
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Let's see what Karen Hardy says on Tuesday.
I am sure she will have to toe the party line as well.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:37
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i thought peter was the betting dancer.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:37
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sorry meant better.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:40
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What a joke! Gamely was far better than Andre.

Please don't vote for him next week at all, he doesn't deserve to be there. He is easily the worst dancer in the competition. I'd love to see everyones face if he ends up in the DO again.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:41
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Well what is the point in having a dance off. Its a complete waste of time. They might just as well say, well we think Peter is a better dancer so let him stay and not bother wasting peoples time watching two dances which aren't going to make an iota of difference.
Well, quite.

Darcy or any judge would not be instructed to vote and if she was she would tell them to take a running jump. Her integrity is sound, it's quite an allegation to make, where us the evidence? - head in hands? - close decision.
No, embarrassment. PA has been overmarked from day one, he's obviously been earmarked as an essential component for viewing figures.

Many ?? One person
Quite.

She will tow the party line.
Of course Karen Hardy will tow the party line - she loves this easy-money gig.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:41
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- James was sacked, = contract not renewed, he continued to be rude.
Contract not being renewed does not equal sacked, not when it's a short-term contract without guarantee of renewal.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:43
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Everyone has their favourites. When that favourite gets knocked out then the natural react prion is to find a reason why. Denial, conspiracy etc

But

Ask the question. For what reason would the judges want / need / require to fix the result.

No point. The series still continues (and they get paid) to Christmas.
Normally I would agree. But Jamelia was probably more unpopular than Peter, so there's less people with an axe to grind. People are just saying that the "on the night" decision was unfair, which appears to be true.
The result only makes sense if the judges were taking previous week's dances into consideration. That's fair enough if they intend to be consistent with that method of choosing who stays or goes, but it then makes the '"dance-off" rather meaningless.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:50
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Jamelia was robbed and the thief's didn't even bother wearing masks.

I am neither a Jamelia or Peter fan, my preference is for Jay or Anita, or even Georgia to win, but fair play has to be seen to be done even on a 'light entertainment show'. The Judges vote only on the performance of the DO couples, not previous dances or skills, so those who say 'well, Peter is better overall' that's just irrelevant. He danced far worse in the DO tonight and both Judges who marked him below Jamelia on Saturday saved him. How can that be anything other than fixed? Did Darcy hide her face because she was told to save Peter or because she was wavering on who to vote for and only after Len said Jamelia did she feel bad, who knows. Certainly we never will, but the impression a majority of viewers posting here have got is that its because she was told what to do.

People ask well why would they do that? Why would the Judges let TPTB tell them what to do? Maybe its because those self same PTB pay them? And maybe they want to be back next year? Plus who knows what's written into their contracts? Total conspiracy theory here which even I admit is out there but what if the small print states that at times they have to say the party line whether they want to or not for the sake of the show. Ratings people, its all about ratings and this kind of outrage makes ratings.

As for Len, well he was safe to say Jamelia even if he wanted to save Peter. By the time they got to him he could of said Mickey Mouse, it was all done by then. He probably thought 'I know how this is going to look to everyone so I'll come across as the nice guy', who knows? Len is old and wise enough to play to the room when he can.

Have to say though I love how all those people in the forum who love to stir things up jump on these threads with opposite views to the majority, I wonder if its just to get a reaction from people, lol.
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Old 22-11-2015, 20:52
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Let's see what Karen Hardy says on Tuesday.
I think she may not be available this week, and not by her choice
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Old 22-11-2015, 21:04
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If you look closely it appears Peter's male backing dancers are not jiving aswell as I'm sure they can.

With the shot where the three females move across from the left and the males move in from the right, the camera quickly cuts away to hardly show Peter.
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Old 22-11-2015, 21:05
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I think she was 50/50 and in a difficult position, but it was her decision.

People posting here that she was told what to vote is liable.
Liable.... *snigger*
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Old 22-11-2015, 21:06
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peter was still better overall than jamelia.
Not applied to Pixie last year.

It was a total disgrace .. and there's definitely an agenda!
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Old 22-11-2015, 21:08
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where were all these jamelia supporters for the last few weeks?? lol, most people seemed to think she should be voted out for her (reported) views on animals / fat people / life and now suddenly she's been hard done by?
That's all totally irrelevant because judges are there to ignore all that stuff and go on the performance they have watched. The fact they did not do this shows what a fix the show is. In any case, for all we know Pondray could have been struggling for votes as much as her and being propped up by overmarking for weeks on end.

Incidentally, I don't think they saved PA because of the gender inbalance, I think they're desperate to keep him specifically in the show and the way they have overmarked him week after week and hardly dare to criticise him at all backs that up. I suspect he is either getting paid more than anyone or has only agreed to do the show if he gets to a certain point, in which case presumably we're stuck with him for a while longer.
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Old 22-11-2015, 21:08
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peter was still better overall than jamelia.
Not in the dance off he wasn't! Why don't people get that? Or is the dance off about how well you have done in the previous weeks? In which case why the hell bother with it?

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Old 22-11-2015, 21:09
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I think she was 50/50 and in a difficult position, but it was her decision.

People posting here that she was told what to vote is liable.
Oh yah. Sometimes she gets in a difficult position when she doesn't close her legs soon enough on Len's lens when she sits down, and you can see it.
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