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Producers didnt want only one male left when there are 5 females
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Presumably it was for balance - otherwise there would be only one male 'celeb' left in the show.
)But if it were about balance wouldn't it have made more sense to save a very popular Jeremy over a not so popular, that is until the last 48 hours ![]() ![]() , Jamelia, last week?
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Producers didnt want only one male left when there are 5 females
Hopefully more potential male contenders get selected in future series; there have been too few in recent years.. |
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They don't want only one male dancer left this early on.
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Producers didnt want only one male left when there are 5 females
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Janette's routines are a lot more interesting than Tristan's, Le Andre has more ability than Jamelia. She's been in the dance off five times. I would have saved him too.
![]() May as well have a straight vote from the public, the Celeb with the lowest votes gets eliminated. |
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Exactly.
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Yes, I can see that tonight's result was fixed ( ruined the programme for me) but what is the advantage in putting PA through over Jamelia? I don't get it.
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I suspect TPTB thought Mr Andre a big draw and possibly offered an OTT contract to entice him on, with some clause that would guarantee he got to the final 4.
He has been consistently overmarked and mollycoddled. Nothing has been done about his Knees Up Mother Brown dancing in every style of dance attempted. No really useful & constructive criticism, just fairly bland stuff which he goes all Uriah Heep over then promptly ignores. For goodness sake, even Ian Waite did not point out his flat footed jive training. |
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Agreed.
Hopefully more potential male contenders get selected in future series; there have been too few in recent years.. |
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yes, unlike the girls, most have been 'absolute beginners'.
I want Katie or Jay to win. I am sick of these females with past dance experience, winning. |
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So true. Also female celebrities with past dance experience can dance well with the male pro leading them. For a male celebrity, even with some dance experience it will be hard to lead and command the female pro.
I want Katie or Jay to win. I am sick of these females with past dance experience, winning. |
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He has been consistently overmarked and mollycoddled. Nothing has been done about his Knees Up Mother Brown dancing in every style of dance attempted. No really useful & constructive criticism, just fairly bland stuff which he goes all Uriah Heep over then promptly ignores. For goodness sake, even Ian Waite did not point out his flat footed jive training.
I get totally bemused when reading comments such as " he's a better dancer", "he has more potential" or "he's performed better overall so far". I haven't seen him do one dance that's anything more than very average, at best. There must be some deal between PA the BBC, otherwise there really is nothing to gain by keeping him in over Jamelia ![]() Quote:
The BBC' didn't do anything. The judges clearly just think that Peter is a better overall dancer than Jamelia and so saved him regardless of the dance off performance. Not some sinister machinations, simply the judges having bias (which they always have done) and acting on it.
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"What possible advantage was it to put Peter through?" is one of the most baffling things about this dance-off I've heard. What possible advantage was it to put someone who'd been in five of eight dance-offs, had some fairly bad dances and had pretty obviously plateaued through to next week, when she would obviously be in the dance-off again (probably from the bottom of the leaderboard) and eliminated then?
The judges were handed a fairly unenviable situation: a terminally unpopular contestant obviously not long for this show versus someone only on their first dance-off and consistently better, with the former happening to dance better on the night. They decided to save based on potential rather than the dance itself - not an unprecedented situation. If they had consistently saved based on the dance-off and only the dance-off up until now, then this would be more controversial. |
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"What possible advantage was it to put Peter through?" is one of the most baffling things about this dance-off I've heard. What possible advantage was it to put someone who'd been in five of eight dance-offs, had some fairly bad dances and had pretty obviously plateaued through to next week, when she would obviously be in the dance-off again (probably from the bottom of the leaderboard) and eliminated then?
The judges were handed a fairly unenviable situation: a terminally unpopular contestant obviously not long for this show versus someone only on their first dance-off and consistently better, with the former happening to dance better on the night. They decided to save based on potential rather than the dance itself - not an unprecedented situation. If they had consistently saved based on the dance-off and only the dance-off up until now, then this would be more controversial. Up to Blackpool they have saved the best in the dance off. Which is what makes suddenly going against this so remarkable. |
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Another own goal from the BBC.
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I get totally bemused when reading comments such as " he's a better dancer", "he has more potential" or "he's performed better overall so far". I haven't seen him do one dance that's anything more than very average, at best.
. He's not great but he's better than Jamelia, surely? ![]() Quote:
"What possible advantage was it to put Peter through?" is one of the most baffling things about this dance-off I've heard. What possible advantage was it to put someone who'd been in five of eight dance-offs, had some fairly bad dances and had pretty obviously plateaued through to next week, when she would obviously be in the dance-off again (probably from the bottom of the leaderboard) and eliminated then?
The judges were handed a fairly unenviable situation: a terminally unpopular contestant obviously not long for this show versus someone only on their first dance-off and consistently better, with the former happening to dance better on the night. They decided to save based on potential rather than the dance itself - not an unprecedented situation. If they had consistently saved based on the dance-off and only the dance-off up until now, then this would be more controversial. |
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You would rather watch Jamelia and Tristan than Janette and Peter? I mean, maybe you do, but I really struggle to accept he wasn't the overall better performer.. At one point Jamelia was actually squatting on the floor.
He's not great but he's better than Jamelia, surely? ![]() This is exactly how I feel about it. Plus I don't think Andre was that much worse than Jamelia anyway. I would rather watch Jamelia, she tries and has stayed doggedly determined and she has genuinely improved. |
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Up to Blackpool they have saved the best in the dance off. Which is what makes suddenly going against this so remarkable.
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Up to Blackpool they have saved the best in the dance off. Which is what makes suddenly going against this so remarkable.
I hope I'm making the point here that all of the judges have, at various times, patently not voted according to the dance-off itself but according to whatever the hell criteria they liked. If this was an isolated situation it'd be cause for much more controversy. But it isn't. |
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If they'd saved Jeremy over Jamelia, Jedward style, then yeah it would be pretty remarkable. But this is Jamelia. I just don't get it. She gets stuck in a squat like an old person who had to bend down to sort out the VHS player. She's pulled into position by her hair. She danced around with a guitar case stuck to her foot.
Until Blackpool this series, the person saved, even in the weeks when Jamelia was not in the dance off was the better performance of the two. It does not matter how many times someone is in the dance off, if you always save based on the same criteria. |
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I get what you're saying, it should be based on the dance off (incidentally I thought the "jive" was better and Jamelia not that great, but I understand that is apparently wrong
), but honestly... I'm glad they didn't, and in the circumstances, I don't think Jamelia was robbed and I don't think it's an outrage, just a bit contentious. Jamelia lacks natural finesse, and lacks the personality to elevate from this (and Tristan lacks the choreography too). She improved, and her QS was so much better, but do I care that I'm not watching them next week? No. I'm sure it would have been boring. And I think the judges are also thinking about this. So what some see an an outrage/fix, I see as meh, I'm glad. It's common sense ![]() ![]() ![]() Andre must be related to Quentin Wilson because he certainly dances like him ... stomp, stomp, stomp then he brown noses the judges and totally ignores their constructive criticism and then the following week does exactly the same thing. Jamelia has improved since week one, Andre has got worse.
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Are you a member of the SCD production team?
![]() ![]() Andre must be related to Quentin Wilson because he certainly dances like him ... stomp, stomp, stomp then he brown noses the judges and totally ignores their constructive criticism and then the following week does exactly the same thing. Jamelia has improved since week one, Andre has got worse. |
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Peter's nose should be browner than a bear by now
![]() ![]() Along with his tongue ![]() He is such a crawler makes me want to heave Think Len has got him taped Lets hope he's out this week |
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I don't know why they're worried about the boy/girl ratio anyway. I think Jay v. the girls makes for quite an interesting battle!
It's not like they're competing individually, we still have seven boys and seven girls, and it seems most of the male pros are more popular with the audience than Peter is anyway ![]() I dunno, maybe I'm taking too simplistic a view, but I hate this whole "we want an even number of boys/girls" shtick. |
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It's not like they're competing individually, we still have seven boys and seven girls, and it seems most of the male pros are more popular with the audience than Peter is anyway