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Elsa
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“I have a conspiracy theory that she's pregnant and thought she'd have been eliminated before now, so was keen to be released from the show. However I am fully prepared to admit that this may be a sign that too much time on DS has utterly rotted my brain and I've fallen down the reality tv worm-hole ”

Back to the conspiracy theory - a Tristan interview just got posted and he said this about the tour (below.) He's pretty open and honest, usually, so I think if Jamelia is pregnant, it's unlikely he would have said this (but I guess it's possible). BTW Gleb and his wife are doing these shows in Florida too.

Tristan: "Yeah, I fly out to Florida the morning after Strictly finishes for some shows there, and then I will take a break at the start of the new year unless they ask us to do the Strictly tour which we haven't heard too much about yet."

http://www.macmaniacs.org/tristan-interviews
catkins198
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“Which is why I don't understand the hysteria over this. Jamelia was on her fifth dance-off! I've never known anyone in one of these TV shows with a public vote (and I've watched quite a view) get to five dance/sing/whatever-offs, never mind to be saved at that point! The maximum saves I've seen for one contestant has been four. So I just don't get why people are getting so steamed up about someone who was only saved as many times as she was because she was up against all the poor dancers.”

People are annoyed because the judges are meant to judge on the dance done in the dance off, not last week or 3 weeks ago.

Yes she was saved because she was up against poor dancers but Peter's dance Saturday was not just poor it wias awful. There was no jive in it at all.

I don't like Jamelia at all and I do like Peter but I believe in fairness and I certainly didn't see any of that in the results show. Jamelia was miles better than Peter.

Last year there was uproar because they sent Pixie Lott home and kept Simon Webbe. I thought it was fair because, in the dance off, Simon danced better than Pixie. How come then the rules suddenly change this year?
hansue
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“People are annoyed because the judges are meant to judge on the dance done in the dance off, not last week or 3 weeks ago.

Yes she was saved because she was up against poor dancers but Peter's dance Saturday was not just poor it wias awful. There was no jive in it at all.

I don't like Jamelia at all and I do like Peter but I believe in fairness and I certainly didn't see any of that in the results show. Jamelia was miles better than Peter.

Last year there was uproar because they sent Pixie Lott home and kept Simon Webbe. I thought it was fair because, in the dance off, Simon danced better than Pixie. How come then the rules suddenly change this year?”

Agree with you 100% catakins. Fairness is the key word here.
mossy2103
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“People are annoyed because the judges are meant to judge on the dance done in the dance off, not last week or 3 weeks ago.

Yes she was saved because she was up against poor dancers but Peter's dance Saturday was not just poor it wias awful. There was no jive in it at all.

I don't like Jamelia at all and I do like Peter but I believe in fairness and I certainly didn't see any of that in the results show. Jamelia was miles better than Peter.

Last year there was uproar because they sent Pixie Lott home and kept Simon Webbe. I thought it was fair because, in the dance off, Simon danced better than Pixie. How come then the rules suddenly change this year?”

Agreed.

In fact, if it was all about who has performed better some weeks ago or who shows the most promise for the remaining rounds, then the DO is superfluous.

But it exists, and exists for a stated reason.. This time, that stated reason was blatantly ignored.
Heavenly
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“People are annoyed because the judges are meant to judge on the dance done in the dance off, not last week or 3 weeks ago.

Yes she was saved because she was up against poor dancers but Peter's dance Saturday was not just poor it wias awful. There was no jive in it at all.

I don't like Jamelia at all and I do like Peter but I believe in fairness and I certainly didn't see any of that in the results show. Jamelia was miles better than Peter.

Last year there was uproar because they sent Pixie Lott home and kept Simon Webbe. I thought it was fair because, in the dance off, Simon danced better than Pixie. How come then the rules suddenly change this year?”

This ^
RachelBlackburn
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“Which isC why I don't understand the hysteria over this. Jamelia was on her fifth dance-off! I've never known anyone in one of these TV shows with a public vote (and I've watched quite a view) get to five dance/sing/whatever-offs, never mind to be saved at that point! The maximum saves I've seen for one contestant has been four. So I just don't get why people are getting so steamed up about someone who was only saved as many times as she was because she was up against all the poor dancers.”

What you clearly don't understand is that who was saved and who was ejected are both utterly irrelevant to most of the people who are upset about this. As is how many previous dance-offs they've been in or whether they'd have only lasted another week anyway. None of that is why people are upset.

People are upset because they believe the evidence is overwhelming that the dance-off decision this week wasn't based on the judges' opinions of the dances in the dance-off, but was dictated by the show's producers. Because if that's true, how can we trust anything else we see as not part of the same 'fixed' agenda? Why vote if we only have the illusion of influence. Why care about a competition if the result is predetermined before the start?
oscar1
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by RachelBlackburn:
“ Why vote if we only have the illusion of influence. Why care about a competition if the result is predetermined before the start?”

You've said it ---- keep your money in your bank accounts .
I watched the DO show after reading this about retakes and to be honest if I hadn't read about the retake here I wouldn't have known there had been one .!!
How many of the viewing audience read DS or the social media sites ?
I'd say the majority just see it as a light entertainment show on a Saturday and Sunday night ----- it's no big deal and I won't be losing any sleep over it .

Regards
edy10
23-11-2015
She certainly didnt help their case (BBC).
missfrankiecat
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I doubt she'd want to. I also think that she's expecting her next child - which is lovely. Why schlep around the country for a tatty show when you can live real life instead?”

Because it's where the money is - they get paid much better pro rata for the tour than the TV series - or they certainly used to.
BuddyBontheNet
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“I doubt Karen would be able to say anything. She is paid by the BBC too.”

Karen has disagreed with the judges before, but this may be a step too far given the circumstances. Will be glued to ITT to see what Karen and Tris have to say!
lovelylissa
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“It has nothing to do with her integrity, and everything to do with a water tight contract. You do not seem to know how the BBC works. Fair enough.

Truth: ' We pay you so you do as we say.' You can blame her, but she will not have had a choice. It is very naive to think she gets to choose The BBC decide.

However, she is known for being down to earth and straightforward and what has happened will upset her and go against her ideals and how she works.

I think there will be a change and I am now wondering how long she will stay after this”

^^this
MayD
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by apaul:
“It wasn't a close decision. Andre was rank last.”

One could reasonably argue that "last" was superfluous
Paace
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“She was promoting a compliation album of tracks she has chosen and also some fusion dance classes she is running. Suspect it was set up long before last night. Her only comments on SCD were about Anita's dance and some general observations about scoring.”

Nothing about why she hung her head in shame when she booted Jamelia off SCD .
poshnosh
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by apaul:
“It wasn't a close decision. Andre was rank last.”

He was so bad he could have been in the previous week's dance off!
Heavenly
23-11-2015
It's ok Darcy - Jamelia said what you weren't allowed to.
Polly-T
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Elsa:
“Back to the conspiracy theory - a Tristan interview just got posted and he said this about the tour (below.) He's pretty open and honest, usually, so I think if Jamelia is pregnant, it's unlikely he would have said this (but I guess it's possible). BTW Gleb and his wife are doing these shows in Florida too.

Tristan: "Yeah, I fly out to Florida the morning after Strictly finishes for some shows there, and then I will take a break at the start of the new year unless they ask us to do the Strictly tour which we haven't heard too much about yet."

http://www.macmaniacs.org/tristan-interviews”

Tristan's interviews are v interesting - he is great on ITT
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