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Have ANY of the papers covered this?
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An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“To be fair, the Mirror has run the story that 'fans SLAMMED' the results show - because Anastasia sang an old song.”

Now THAT'S a story!!! Somebody will be heading for Pulitzer with that!

And badly in my opinion - meaning I prefered the original. But I woudln't expect my opinion on something as subjective to make front page news even if I could find a few thousand people who agree with me.
RachelBlackburn
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“To be fair, the Mirror has run the story that 'fans SLAMMED' the results show - because Anastasia sang an old song.”

Which I think makes the point nicely. There were 800 or so posts on the Strictly results show blog and I can't remember reading *any* grumbling about an old song - certainly none of the most popular 4 or 5 pages of posts.

So however small the story of Jamelia's dance-off may be, the newspapers are clearly happy to run far smaller ones. Far smaller *other* ones...
An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by RachelBlackburn:
“Which I think makes the point nicely. There were 800 or so posts on the Strictly results show blog and I can't remember reading *any* grumbling about an old song - certainly none of the most popular 4 or 5 pages of posts.

So however small the story of Jamelia's dance-off may be, the newspapers are clearly happy to run far smaller ones. Far smaller *other* ones...”

Its small alright. Assuming an audience of 9 million the story is 0.008% of the audience thnk that Jamelia should have stayed over Peter. 99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference.
mossy2103
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Its small alright. Assuming an audience of 9 million the story is 0.008% of the audience thnk that Jamelia should have stayed over Peter. 99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference.”

Correction - "99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference in public on the internet and social media"
An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Correction - "99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference in public on the internet and social media"”

Fair comment. You mean they are expressing the opinion in the privacy of thier own homes?
Ellie1967
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Its small alright. Assuming an audience of 9 million the story is 0.008% of the audience thnk that Jamelia should have stayed over Peter. 99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference.”

The point is, that's still a bigger percentage than the 0.00000000001% of people who expressed an opinion about Anastasia singing an old song (although I haven't seen any comments about that) yet they still wrote a story about that. It seems a little strange in comparison that the story about the reaction to Peter's DO is completely ignored.
Daisy Bennyboots
23-11-2015
Actually I would have expected the tabloids to have covered it simply because they sell sensationalism - and any whiff of a Strictly scandal they love. Ask Kristina. Or Ben Cohen's motherin-law. Or Ola's calendar...or shock exits or drop out or Anton calling someone a ****.
The Peter /Jamelia fan outrage is the kind of thing the tabloids love, especially given how much is was being talked about across all social media, it's notable that no-one is mentioning the one thing everyone is talking about.
BeeBumble
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“To those of you who claim there is no story here for the press to cover, I ask this: why did Kristina allegedly not giving the show producers an advance copy of her book (something they had to retract as it was false) make front page news? Why constant coverage of Jay & Aliona having an affair when most of us can see that they aren't?

This IS a story - I suspect the papers are keeping quiet because they know they'll never get any juicy titbits from the beeb or from Andre's camp again if they run this.”

because those are the sorts of things people read about ooh is so and so sleeping with so so is something that gets people reading. Fans are unhappy about the result probably gets the reaction of "meh arn't they always.".
An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“The point is, that's still a bigger percentage than the 0.00000000001% of people who expressed an opinion about Anastasia singing an old song (although I haven't seen any comments about that) yet they still wrote a story about that. It seems a little strange in comparison that the story about the reaction to Peter's DO is completely ignored.”

Ah OK I see the point being made now. Although there is a difference is that Anastasia did sing an old song So that story is grounded with a fact. Jamelia danced better than Peter is an opinion (one I share as it happens but still an opinion)

So It would seem to be comparing a story with the narratvie 'Fans are grumpy because Anastacia sings a cover' with 'Fans are grumpy because Jamelia is out despite being a better dancer.'
Skyrah
23-11-2015
Quote:
“STRICTLY COME DANCING FANS QUESTION SUNDAY NIGHT RESULT With allegations of score fixing in the air, viewers are now questioning a surprise result”

http://uk.blastingnews.com/showbiz-t...-00665013.html
Paace
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Ah OK I see the point being made now. Although there is a difference is that Anastasia did sing an old song So that story is grounded with a fact. Jamelia danced better than Peter is an opinion (one I share as it happens but still an opinion)

So It would seem to be comparing a story with the narratvie 'Fans are grumpy because Anastacia sings a cover' with 'Fans are grumpy because Jamelia is out despite being a better dancer.'”

Not an opinion but a fact, plain for everyone to see .
primer
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Its small alright. Assuming an audience of 9 million the story is 0.008% of the audience thnk that Jamelia should have stayed over Peter. 99.992% of the audience have not expressed a preference.”

0.008% of the audience are over invested and laughably think its news...
Ellie1967
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Ah OK I see the point being made now. Although there is a difference is that Anastasia did sing an old song So that story is grounded with a fact. Jamelia danced better than Peter is an opinion (one I share as it happens but still an opinion)

So It would seem to be comparing a story with the narratvie 'Fans are grumpy because Anastacia sings a cover' with 'Fans are grumpy because Jamelia is out despite being a better dancer.'”

Since when have any of the tabloids worried about their stories being grounded in fact? It is a fact that hundreds of people have been expressing the opinion that the show is fixed - that's all they really need to make a story if they were so inclined.
primer
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Not an opinion but a fact, plain for everyone to see .”

its not a fact. its an opinion. and the judges didn't agree. and neither do i. such is life.
Paace
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“its not a fact. its an opinion. and the judges didn't agree. and neither do i. such is life.”

Its a fact .
primer
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Its a fact .”

in paace world, i'm sure it is. in the real word, it isn't. a fact is something that can be proved true, and dance, like all other art forms, doesn't deal in that sort of concrete truth.
SKID1
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Not an opinion but a fact, plain for everyone to see .”

not seen any posts saying Pete danced best on the night ,
An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Ellie1967:
“Since when have any of the tabloids worried about their stories being grounded in fact? It is a fact that hundreds of people have been expressing the opinion that the show is fixed - that's all they really need to make a story if they were so inclined.”

Yet they are not inclined. But the interpretation bias seems to be that this is because there is some conspiracy or corruption between Peter and the tabloids, the BBC and the tabloids, Peter and the BBC or some combination of those.

Where in fact it may not have made the papers because the hundreds of people who are allegedely interested in such a story do not make much difference in terms of newspaper sales.

Or perhaps it just so happens that the news value is deemed lower than that of other stories.
Paace
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by primer:
“in paace world, i'm sure it is. in the real word, it isn't. a fact is something that can be proved true, and dance, like all other art forms, doesn't deal in that sort of concrete truth.”

In the real world Jamelia danced better then Peter last night, fact . Peter didn't even dance a jive and should be marked down accordingly .
Paace
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by SKID1:
“not seen any posts saying Pete danced best on the night ,”

Exactly .
SKID1
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Yet they are not inclined. But the interpretation bias seems to be that this is because there is some conspiracy or corruption between Peter and the tabloids, the BBC and the tabloids, Peter and the BBC or some combination of those.

Where in fact it may not have made the papers because the hundreds of people who are allegedely interested in such a story do not make much difference in terms of newspaper sales.

Or perhaps it just so happens that the news value is deemed lower than that of other stories.”

This , far worse news to report on that a fix on strictly
primer
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Exactly .”

i think he was a better dancer and have said so. i think he's now the worst, so don't get me wrong, i'm not a fan or anything i think its subjective, and i agreed with the judges.
An Thropologist
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Not an opinion but a fact, plain for everyone to see .”

Originally Posted by primer:
“its not a fact. its an opinion. and the judges didn't agree. and neither do i. such is life.”

Originally Posted by Paace:
“Its a fact .”

We are officially in pantomiime season it seems.

Oh yes he is

Oh no he isn't

Oooooo yes he is.

Talk about life reflecting art.
primer
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“We are officially in pantomiime season it seems.

Oh yes he is

Oh no he isn't

Oooooo yes he is.

Talk about life reflecting art. ”

i'm not arguing about whether anyone's opinion is right or wrong, i'm arguing that an opinion isn't a fact. important difference, if you don't mind.
roseblue1
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by SKID1:
“not seen any posts saying Pete danced best on the night ,”

That is because he did not
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