It's not just 'two bitter women' who've said it...

And perhaps they can't rig it long-term for a particular winner but they can manipulate in order to keep the game more interesting (for example not wanting just one male celeb left). In which case, the viewers are being duped.

Yes it did . THey can't lie about this, FAR too many big names with big mouths and twitter accounts were there , not to mention the press .Do you really think that all those people obeyed some guy with a microphone ordering them to stand and clap for the second taping ? Press , and celebs and supporters and staff all fell in line and never complained or refused (like normal people would)? It just isn't logical .
It will have been an issue with the camera angle or sound or something . Part of the routine involved him shoving a camera (probably a dummy one) roughly aside , so maybe he pushed it too far/not far enough and it messed up the real sight lines for the real cameras at the end of the routine .
I've been to recordings of local shows and it can be a pain in the ass at times when things go wrong , then the show airs looking seamless . That's telly for you .

Considering they didn't show the audience reaction to Jamelia's DO, why were they so desperate to show the one for Peter's? To point where they wasted time and film just to make sure it could be shown?

Read the spoiler thread. Jamelia today only confirmed what the mole told us immediately after the Saturday broadcast. There was no standing O for Peter. Or at least, only a half-hearted one, with most people rooted to their seats.

Yes it is. It's jamelia and ola trying to grab column inches . But it's ok , both are history once this dies down as far as big bookings go . Like I said before , everyone loves a rebel/whistleblower in the heat of the event , but few people want to employ them when the dust settles . Sayonara to them both , back to obscurity .

Actually it's in the Mirror now.

Well the spoiler thread mole clearly stated that Peter did not get a standing ovation for his jive in the dance off.

As Tristran said on it takes two it's all about opinions when all is said and done.

It is possible for a couple to improve their performance in the Dance Off and also competitors can go backwards. If you don't accept this FACT then there is no point in the Dance Off.

I don't care about Ola, but this whole thing seems to have raised support for Jamelia. I reckon she could be alright considering she works for ITV

there's been enough evidence , they want a perfect show , they would never want any negativity towards the contestants , its obvious peter is not the flavour of the day

I don't read the spoiler thread now toasted . There have been others on other threads and on twitter and fb who've had relatives or pals at the event and they said there was a standing ovation both times and there were no issues and no bloke ordering them around with a whip or stun gun demanding obedience.
So in the end people can choose which to believe , the logical version or the one from a bitter woman with an axe to grind and no dignity .

After her fattist comments ? Not for long

I don't see what axe the mole could possibly have had to grind? Maybe people in different parts of the studio/ballroom were able to see different things. Still, I was not there myself so don't have anything further to add that will advance anyone's knowledge!

For the love of God, Jamelia confirmed what had been rumoured to have happened on the Saturday night. It didn't come for her originally and clearly something odd happened.

The fact that they didn't show the audience response to Jamelia but felt the need to re-film Peter's should make you wonder...

Wasn't that eons ago or did she do something else?

If he had had a standing ovation the first time, why would the 'mole' have reported it as anything out of the ordinary to film it again? Why would it be reported as the audience being instructed to stand? Why would Jamelia have thought it odd and sinister if it was just a routine run-of-the-mill refilming exercise of the sort they do every show? Why would Jamelia comment that the reason for refilming was to get the ovation? I might even add why did the standing ovation shot only show a very small section of the audience even with the reshoot? Perhaps the audience wasn't that cooperative?

Why was Len's advice to Jamelia to (paraphrased) go out and enjoy yourself rather than (say) "Fix your gapping and keep your topline consistent". It wasn't a blatant mismatch like Jeremy's in which nothing he could have done would have made him better than Kellie. Jamelia outscored Peter, so in theory there was everything to play for. So why the lack of advice?

I don't especially like Jamelia, and, irritating as he is, I don't even particularly dislike Peter. But I hate being lied to.

[quote=Heatherbell;80473121]I don't read the spoiler thread now toasted . There have been others on other threads and on twitter and fb who've had relatives or pals at the event and they said there was a standing ovation both times and there were no issues and no bloke ordering them around with a whip or stun gun demanding obedience.
So in the end people can choose which to believe , the logical version or the one from a bitter woman with an axe to grind and no dignity .[/QUOTE

You must have only stopped reading the spoiler thread recently because Ive seen your name on the guess the time list a couple of weeks ago.

The BBC are the masters of covering up , so they don't look bad

They film inserts a lot during the recording for the Sunday shows apparently, so I don't get what the big deal is here in that regard. It's not like it showed the whole room standing for Peter - it showed like 5 people standing and the rest were seated, as reported. It didn't look like he was getting a massive standing ovation - just cheered like normal.

Maybe they just recorded the inserts differently this weekend because it was Blackpool and not the usual setup.

I just don't think people would care this much if it wasn't Peter. In fact, I'm pretty certain people wouldn't care at all if it wasn't Peter.

I couldn't care less if it was Peter. I personally thought that Jamelia looked so happy dancing on the Sunday show, doing her best, that it encapsulated exactly what Strictly should be about. It's a dancing reality show with fun and entertainment and good competition. Unfair results detract from all of that.

You missed out that I posted in the spoiler list on saturday just past, NOT just "a couple of weeks ago " but since you clearly seem to think you 'caught me out' I'll explain. Again .
On sunday evening I had the same debate regarding the spoiler mole versus what people happy to put names to themselves on fb and twitter say . It got some over heated responses so rather than disrupt the thread or cause anyone to get in trouble I bowed out and left them to the conspiracy theory chat . And I've not been in since because I know the drill . So you won't be seeing my name on the list again when you look for it , which means I no longer read or post there .
On the thread topic, just been reading twitter and one of the sound team has informed a certain celeb who was wading in to the debate without any first hand experience of saturday at all that there was NO big flap over any thing and that it was just another show where a few retakes were needed .There was no conspiracy and nothing underhand done or covered up. This person has worked on the show and others and is a verified twitter account . Now I'm not naming her obv, so you can believe it or not .

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/j...-peter-6888077
Here it is front page of the mirror, sorry if already posted.

Btw, reading some of the post re asked to stand up etc. We were asked to stand up and clap several times a few years back during the recording of the results show. We were told we didn't make enough noise or show enough appreciation first time. This was for the act that was pre recorded and slotted in for the results show. We were clapping fresh air!
What is very clear is that the audience were very loud and cheered Len when he said Jamerlia should stay.

In the interest of accuracy I've just watched the end of both Peter's and Jamelia's dances on the main show (Saturday) and neither of them got standing ovations. Some people in the audience stood for each of the performances but neither P or J got an ovation in the ballroom the first time they danced.

Interesting to see Darcey saying this in Daily Express today, maybe a kick back about Saturday's events...

http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-...y-Come-Dancing

I'd say it's more like speaking the truth. Peter is not a good dancer, he's just used to performing (after 20 something years flogging his small talent he should be frankly) but that jive showed up just how mediocre he really is.