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what improvement did the judges see in Peter??
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knawtitypaos
23-11-2015
looking at the scores on Saturday

(Jamelia vs Peter)

Craig 7-6
Darcey 8-7
Len 8-8
Bruno 8-8

...so for the DO, Craig and Darcey saw at least a 2 point swing, while Bruno saw at least a 1 point swing.

I didn't see anything like......

Strange really......
Lambchop68
23-11-2015
There was no improvement in Peter's dance, it was a poor dance the first time, not even really a jive, it was a poor dance in the dance off, it was inferior to Jamelia's dance. The judges didn't really see an improvement because there was none.

It was a fix/stitch up, they wanted Peter to go through to next week rather than Jamelia, so they saved Peter (or at least 3 of them did), they looked very sheepish about the whole thing, didn't even try to explain their decision, apart from Darcy, who was clearly mortified and embarrassed and hid her head in her hands.
calamity
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Lambchop68:
“There was no improvement in Peter's dance, it was a poor dance the first time, not even really a jive, it was a poor dance in the dance off, it was inferior to Jamelia's dance. The judges didn't really see an improvement because there was none.

It was a fix/stitch up, they wanted Peter to go through to next week rather than Jamelia, so they saved Peter (or at least 3 of them did), they looked very sheepish about the whole thing, didn't even try to explain their decision, apart from Darcy, who was clearly mortified and embarrassed and hid her head in her hands.”

I think Darcey is lovely but she let me down by doing this.. when she knew who should have been kept in.. shame on them.
mimi123456
23-11-2015
They probably saw his Iceland advert, hehehe.
Doghouse Riley
23-11-2015
They saw that he'd do more for the ratings than keeping Jamelia in. You can't beat a bit of "carefully rehearsed" controversy, to get people talking about the show. They manage something every year.
poshnosh
23-11-2015
His bracers were much straighter in the dance off - a big improvement.
Purple Mango
23-11-2015
Why did they pander to the 'improving' malark in the dance off? All that had to be said was "so we usually vote off the poorest dance here, but sorry jamelia, it just feels like now youre on borrowed time" .... or an explanation to that effect. Would have tittilated a bit of annoyance but certainly would have avoided the current drama going on

Its almost like they are trying to parallel the huge f*** up from xfactor last week
Doghouse Riley
23-11-2015
Originally Posted by Purple Mango:
“Why did they pander to the 'improving' malark in the dance off? All that had to be said was "so we usually vote off the poorest dance here, but sorry jamelia, it just feels like now youre on borrowed time" .... or an explanation to that effect. Would have tittilated a bit of annoyance but certainly would have avoided the current drama going on

Its almost like they are trying to parallel the huge f*** up from xfactor last week”

There's such intense rivalry between the producers of these shows, they'd not be satisfied if it weren't an even bigger f*** up!
Amaluna
23-11-2015
Imaginary, obviously...
Polly-T
24-11-2015
There was NO improvement in his "jive"
David Waine
24-11-2015
With four dance offs behind her already, and none for Peter, it was quite obvious which had more potential for the later stages. Having written that, I agree that Jamelia did the better dance off of the two. Peter was hamstrung by a particularly poor dance, but that is not his fault. The fact that he didn't dance even that particularly well is. I think that the judges sacrificed her for the sake of the show. Len could afford to disagree with the verdict, thus sweetening the pill for Jamelia a bit, because the decision was out of his hands by then.
daziechain
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“With four dance offs behind her already, and none for Peter, it was quite obvious which had more potential for the later stages. Having written that, I agree that Jamelia did the better dance off of the two. Peter was hamstrung by a particularly poor dance, but that is not his fault. The fact that he didn't dance even that particularly well is. I think that the judges sacrificed her for the sake of the show. Len could afford to disagree with the verdict, thus sweetening the pill for Jamelia a bit, because the decision was out of his hands by then.”

Pixie had far more potential than Peter .. and she hadn't been in any previous dance offs. Also it was a dance that didn't suit. Losing her from the final was a great shame .. Peter won't be missed .. imo he doesn't add anything and has done many versions of the stompy dance now. His potential is limited. Going on what was before them .. they should have saved Jamelia. She was the better dancer on the night and the one person left who actually had learnt to dance .. if you take her performances over the weeks. All the rest (inc Anita) were pretty good from the start.

Poor decision from them and it won't help Peter going forward.
David Waine
24-11-2015
I agree. The elimination of Pixie last year was an absolute travesty in my opinion, and Len lost my respect (not that he will be bothered about that) as a result.
biscuitfactory
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“I agree. The elimination of Pixie last year was an absolute travesty in my opinion, and Len lost my respect (not that he will be bothered about that) as a result.”

How many times do I have to say this...
Yes, Pixie going was a fix just like the Jamelia / Peter dance-off was a fix, but Pixie was in on her elimination; she had to go because she had a promotional tour just about to happen ( you can look this up if you like - it's a fact )
You can even tell by her and Trent's reaction to being in the dance-off and being eliminated if you look at the VT of it..not a glimmer of sadness or surprise. I remember thinking at the time " they could have acted it up a bit and not made it look so obvious "
DeltaBlues
24-11-2015
Of course there was improvement.

That was his best* "humble...just want to improve...constructive criticism...act on judges' comments...doing my best...judges are so right..." speech yet.



*most annoying
Alli-F
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by mimi123456:
“They probably saw his Iceland advert, hehehe.”



Wouldn't that have taken marks off?
SKID1
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by poshnosh:
“His bracers were much straighter in the dance off - a big improvement.”

^^^^

can this be verified ???
Janet43
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by David Waine:
“With four dance offs behind her already, and none for Peter, it was quite obvious which had more potential for the later stages. Having written that, I agree that Jamelia did the better dance off of the two. Peter was hamstrung by a particularly poor dance, but that is not his fault. The fact that he didn't dance even that particularly well is. I think that the judges sacrificed her for the sake of the show. Len could afford to disagree with the verdict, thus sweetening the pill for Jamelia a bit, because the decision was out of his hands by then.”

Why? It isn't obvious at all. It could be that Peter has reached a plateau that is mediocre and won't get any better, but Jamelia was definitely improving and might have the potential to be really good in a couple of week's time.
biscuitfactory
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Why? It isn't obvious at all. It could be that Peter has reached a plateau that is mediocre and won't get any better, but Jamelia was definitely improving and might have the potential to be really good in a couple of week's time.”

Yep. He reached that plateau called 'flat-footed mediocrity' in week one.
spider9
24-11-2015
an improvement in the ratings the next week?
daziechain
24-11-2015
They didn't explain it funnily enough.
The weird thing is ... they didn't mention Jamelia at all! Usually there's some stuff about 'difficult decisions' or 'hard to choose' or 'you both did well' but this time no .. and it was all said as if they were under duress. Darcey looked awkward before she was even asked.

I've always been a bit suspicious about Len's pickled walnuts too.
RichmondBlue
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by biscuitfactory:
“How many times do I have to say this...
Yes, Pixie going was a fix just like the Jamelia / Peter dance-off was a fix, but Pixie was in on her elimination; she had to go because she had a promotional tour just about to happen ( you can look this up if you like - it's a fact )
You can even tell by her and Trent's reaction to being in the dance-off and being eliminated if you look at the VT of it..not a glimmer of sadness or surprise. I remember thinking at the time " they could have acted it up a bit and not made it look so obvious "”

I didn't know that. Why did she sign up to do Strictly then ? Or why did the BBC agree to it ? Pixie Lott isn't such huge star name that they just had to have her even if she was unable to carry on to the final.
I could probably understand if it was Katy Perry or Taylor Swift..some hope of that !
Heavenly
24-11-2015
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“They didn't explain it funnily enough.
The weird thing is ... they didn't mention Jamelia at all! Usually there's some stuff about 'difficult decisions' or 'hard to choose' or 'you both did well' but this time no .. and it was all said as if they were under duress. Darcey looked awkward before she was even asked.
.”

It couldn't have been more awkward if they had tried!

Looking forward to Karen Hardy, Peter, Janette, Ian Waite and the Friday panel's comments on ITT this week about Ovationgate. Though nothing will top Jamelia's comments which no-one was expecting!
alan29
24-11-2015
Even more "ever so 'umble?"
Polly-T
24-11-2015
No improvement
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