The way I look at it, like Len said, there was only three points separating Peter and Janette and Jameila and Tristan. I did think it was a shame for Jameila because she did a really entertaining quickstep. However, like I have said in a previous post, she had gone as far as she could without the advantage of public votes. The public in general didn't warm to her and if she had been saved by the judges, then she would very likely been back in the same situation of being back in the bottom two again for a sixth time this weekend.

I didn't believe that scripted drivel for one second. I would have probably accepted it better had they said that other factors, such as overall performance across the series, were occasionally taken into consideration alongside the actual dance-off, but no... they insist it is the dance-off alone that matters. You only have to watch the 'Goodbye Jamelia' video on the BBC website to see how unhappy the pro dancers look, Kevin and Giovanni in particular look most uncomfortable.

I find it very, very unpleasant that not only Jamelia but also people on this website who saw with their own eyes what happened, are being branded liars. They skirted around some issues like why Darcey looked so ashamed of her "decision".

Oh and I also think it was highly unfair to make Len come on to defend a decision that wasn't even his!

So I assume that those who don't believe him will stop watching the show because why on earth would they want to continue watching a show that they believe is fixed?

The audience didn't boo though . Someone just claimed they did .There is not one verification of the booing claim from anyone prepared to give their name who was there on the night . Press, celebs , the whole heap . All those vicious pap people who glory in controversy and scandal , and celebs with huge twitter and fb accounts, yet none claim they heard boos . I could say my aunt was there and the cheers rattled the rafters , but it doesn't make it so .
Len has put it to bed nicely , storm in tea cup .

This topic is never ending.....in the words of Frozen 'let it go, let it go...la la la' all join in you know you want to 🎵🎶🎼

Jamelia and dignity, no I don't think so.

Well they had to have Len really. As said Darcy had already been on before this all hit the fan in the press and Bruno is unavailable and you can't guarantee Craig would say something inflammotory that would set it all off again!

I'm willing to take all Len said with a grain of salt. I'm more interested in what he didn't say. He kept repeating that Peter had improved and he was only 2 points below Jamelia therefore it was "close". But he never once said that she improved too

jeez, i bloody hope so.

and/or report it to the police. because fixing a show based on phone votes and lying about it would be fraud. which is a criminal offence.

unless the police/govenment/masons/church are inonit too. they usually are.

Just saw this, well done for spotting this.

For me there are only two options really

1. The whole things stinks to high heaven and Len was wheeled out to try and counter the fact they've been rumbled. Why else would they have him on to explain other peoples decisions (makes NO sense for them to have him and not one or all of the others)

2. Hes telling the truth, theres no conspiracy to keep Peter in (why on earth would there be. Hes a nobody in the scheme of things). The other 3 judges are just shit at their job

I'm leaning towards option 2

Oh yes, all that as well.

I don't think it was fixed but I do think they voted on who they thought had been better throughout the series rather than just the dance off. They've done it before, and siad as such when saving that person. Had they just said that at the time yes everyone here would have shouted out about going against their own rules etc... but all the conspiracy theories wouldn't have gone so much out of control.

its the other three judges ,that needed to explain themselves

to be honest, it would have been MORE interesting to get Len AND either Craig, Bruno or Darcy in

Getting Len in all seemed a little pointless seeing as he would have voted to keep Jamelia and not Peter and that seems to be the whole point

I would have preferred to have seen 2 judges on the sofa and have them both explain why they each chose to keep a different couple

I believe Len when he says the BBC have an agenda and don't tell the judges who to vote from

I personally didn't see any improvement from Peter in the dance off but its all subjective really isn't it

that is why I do feel there shouldn't be a dance off and it should be entirely down to the public vote

I believe Len- but they were hampered from the outset because Peter had been over-marked in the first place with 8s from Len & Bruno.

Ironically- Craig gave him a fair 6 in the first place, so all he had to do was stick with his first instincts.

I think craigdarceybruno just got complacent and didn't alter the thinking they'd got used to early on in the comp- that Peter was better than Jamelia. It blinded the from seeing the facts in week 9 which were that Jamelia was better in that instance.

No fixing, no orders from tptb, just plain lazy thinking.

Is that a Nottingham turn of phrase?

I don't think it was a fix, I do think it was the wrong decision IF they were judging on the dance off purely as Len said then Peter should have went home but Jamelia (even though I voted for her a couple of times over the weeks) was in the bottom 2 5 times & most people before Saturday/Sunday though she was going home this doesn't mean the way she went out was right but it was understandable that the judges saved Peter as they only had one other male left and that he was never in the dance off before also it was his worst dance (although I haven't see much improvement in Peter since day one)

Personally I think the bbc has handled the situation badly by making statement and rolling out Len instead of letting it calm down naturally as it normally does except for some die hard fans

That's what you think. I think that half this forum are actually sock puppets for ITV and the XFactor and they are spreading this malicious SCD - BBC conspiracy nonsense. I tell you the conspiracy is a conspiracy!

Oh and as for this 'new' policy of getting the judges to explain their choice in the dance-off... they do that nearly every week anyway! This week was the anomaly in that two of them didn't.

It's hilarious. When perceived to be on the side of those who loathe Peter he's heaven-sent. In the space of 15 minutes he's gone to the dark side. You couldn't make it up.

I guess when push comes to shove it's just a cheesy, light-hearted, entertainment show but given the seriousness of the accusations - that the show is fixed - it might have been useful to have a bit of journalistic objectivity on ITT (I know, I'm laughing, too) in which someone - I'm sure Jamelia would be game - put the case for the opposition. Zoe reading viewers' questions that have been selected by the production team doesn't achieve this end.

They think Pete is more likely to attract the younger demographic than Jamelia - the beeb are desperate to net the Xfactor viewers.



They are terrified of losing viewers and their 'squeaky clean' image, <rolls eyes>

I'd call it a whitewash.

yes its from a very small village, inhabited only by me, where we say it all the time.

I don't think PA was saved, as such. I think the judges had decided to let Jamelia go, if she was in the bottom two again, but hadn't anticipated how badly her opponent would dance.

Quite

Judging by the latest comments on the Strictly website very few people have been convinced by Len's appearance on ITT. I think the best thing they could do at this point would be to announce they are scrapping the dance-off for the rest of the series. There are no comedy acts left in and people should be allowed to leave as the voting dictates. At this point, rightly or wrongly, whoever is chosen in a DO there will be people thinking it's fishy.